Bush is a hero

Since: Mar 13

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#171250 Nov 2, 2013
AUIdiotRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>Whether they are draft dogers or not , they still have to follow the corrupted US imperial directive orders, if don't accept look what happen to JFK, lincoln...
Dick Cheney managed to get five deferments, took part in telling a thousand lies to justify(in his mind) invading Iraq then made $25 million from his stock in Halliburton while 4500 young Americans were dying there. Republicans start wars.....they don't fight in them. Nixon ended the draft and also took the U S off the gold standard. It's a lot easier for some prick to start a war if he knows his own will never even get their ivy league education interrupted.
courteous europhobe

Plymouth, NH

#171251 Nov 2, 2013
AUIdiotRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>Lets go back way in history, you not gonna like , as you try hide it from others; the smart not gonna take you word for it; the world is not as stupid as you think! Bahhahahaaaa Did you know that US/UNOCAL had business relationships with Taliban, that is business gone sour because Taliban didn't like US contracts of non negotaible terms and conditions ; So US ensued with perpetual wars against them for their land/Oil pipelines in the 50s and still to this day US waged wars on Taliban.
And what was the reason for Soviet invasion in the late 70s and 80s??? Let me guess, Thermite!!

Since we're wrapping up our invasion of that shit hole Afghanistan(on a large scale anyway) when do you expect to see this pipeline you're whining about, constructed?
courteous europhobe

Plymouth, NH

#171252 Nov 2, 2013
Angel9999 wrote:
<quoted text>
Dick Cheney managed to get five deferments, took part in telling a thousand lies to justify(in his mind) invading Iraq then made $25 million from his stock in Halliburton while 4500 young Americans were dying there. Republicans start wars.....they don't fight in them. Nixon ended the draft and also took the U S off the gold standard. It's a lot easier for some prick to start a war if he knows his own will never even get their ivy league education interrupted.
Was it a republican that started us involvment in vietnam, or ww2?
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#171253 Nov 2, 2013
courteous europhobe wrote:
<quoted text>And what was the reason for Soviet invasion in the late 70s and 80s??? Let me guess, Thermite!!
Since we're wrapping up our invasion of that shit hole Afghanistan(on a large scale anyway) when do you expect to see this pipeline you're whining about, constructed?
Nope! Some American Political Professional career critics on Nations affairs said US fooled Russian into a war with Afghan...
Yes wrapping up Some troops to stay in Afghan, you must be dumb then a rock to beleive pour US will withdraw whole Us troops home after long wars in mid East, serious you mental challenged retard believe everything what our Us leaders in power says. You drink to much koolaid , you lowly grunters arte ignorant... BAbababababaaa
better do the research jarhead supporters !
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#171254 Nov 2, 2013
courteous europhobe wrote:
<quoted text>Was it a republican that started us involvment in vietnam, or ww2?
TRY Both!
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#171255 Nov 2, 2013
Angel9999 wrote:
<quoted text>
Dick Cheney managed to get five deferments, took part in telling a thousand lies to justify(in his mind) invading Iraq then made $25 million from his stock in Halliburton while 4500 young Americans were dying there. Republicans start wars.....they don't fight in them. Nixon ended the draft and also took the U S off the gold standard. It's a lot easier for some prick to start a war if he knows his own will never even get their ivy league education interrupted.
WAY MORE IN damage on both side, the human toll is worst try over million plus...

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#171256 Nov 2, 2013
Vietnam was a huge mistake. Stalin met in Yalta with Roosevelt and Churchill after WW2 and Roosevelt was dying. He only lasted a few months after that. Stalin took advantage of both of them and got that 38th parallel agreement signed and that lead to the wars in Korea and Vietnam. Be damn glad Roosevelt won the war because otherwise the Jews would be dead and the rest of us would be goose stepping and speaking German. FDR was the greatest president in the history of this country.....PERIOD!!

Believe it or not I was a Republican for the first 30 years of my adult life. I voted for Eisenhower, Goldwater, Nixon three times....even Reagan once. Republicans used to be a different party. Now they're in the pockets of corporations and the rich. I wouldn't vote for another one of them of I live to 100. Let's see.....I'll be 80 next year so that might not be that far away.
lisw

Delaware, OH

#171257 Nov 2, 2013
Angel9999 wrote:
Vietnam was a huge mistake. Stalin met in Yalta with Roosevelt and Churchill after WW2 and Roosevelt was dying. He only lasted a few months after that. Stalin took advantage of both of them and got that 38th parallel agreement signed and that lead to the wars in Korea and Vietnam. Be damn glad Roosevelt won the war because otherwise the Jews would be dead and the rest of us would be goose stepping and speaking German. FDR was the greatest president in the history of this country.....PERIOD!!
Believe it or not I was a Republican for the first 30 years of my adult life. I voted for Eisenhower, Goldwater, Nixon three times....even Reagan once. Republicans used to be a different party. Now they're in the pockets of corporations and the rich. I wouldn't vote for another one of them of I live to 100. Let's see.....I'll be 80 next year so that might not be that far away.
Good for you, being almost 80 I mean. But I think you've got it wrong. Republicans didn't start wars and if someone dodged the draft during the Vietnam war well noone understood more than a soldier that went to war. They are not bitter like you are. Rich and poor alike found ways to keep from going, so I'd let that one go if I were you. It'll make you get old faster.
lisw

Delaware, OH

#171258 Nov 2, 2013
bad bob wrote:
<quoted text>
Beautimus,....check yer pictures. One of 'em might be an award winner.
:-D
We are terrible picture takers. I got one of Homer in front of the falls with his poncho on but you can't even tell it's the falls with all the mist.
Prices were unbelievably high. I thought it was because it was a tourist spot but a man we spoke with said prices are high all over Canada. It's that universal healthcare.
:)
Lost In Transition

Erie, PA

#171259 Nov 2, 2013
Angel9999 wrote:
Vietnam was a huge mistake. Stalin met in Yalta with Roosevelt and Churchill after WW2 and Roosevelt was dying. He only lasted a few months after that. Stalin took advantage of both of them and got that 38th parallel agreement signed and that lead to the wars in Korea and Vietnam. Be damn glad Roosevelt won the war because otherwise the Jews would be dead and the rest of us would be goose stepping and speaking German. FDR was the greatest president in the history of this country.....PERIOD!!
Believe it or not I was a Republican for the first 30 years of my adult life. I voted for Eisenhower, Goldwater, Nixon three times....even Reagan once. Republicans used to be a different party. Now they're in the pockets of corporations and the rich. I wouldn't vote for another one of them of I live to 100. Let's see.....I'll be 80 next year so that might not be that far away.
So to re-cap, Republicans start wars while Democrats just get hood-winked and start huge mistakes.
Got it.
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#171260 Nov 2, 2013
Confronting the Third World, Gabriel Kolko, p298

America's political leadership has not abdicated the basic ideological principle that the United States has both the obligation and the right to intervene aggressively both covertly and, if necessary, overtly in the affairs of nations throughout the Third World.
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#171261 Nov 2, 2013




How the 1 percent always wins: Liberal washing is the right’s new favorite tactic

Here's why plutocrats control our politics: Corporate America knows both parties are up for sale

http://www.salon.com/2013/11/01/how_the_1_per ...

By David Sirota

“What is most striking about the present is not the virtues of moderation but of the potential power of conviction. One detects, behind all the anxiety about ‘extremists,’‘radicals,’ and ‘militant minorities,’ a degree of envy. On the Right there is a group with enough commitment to a shared project that is willing and able to disrupt the ordinary functioning of government. If only the Left had such wherewithal. We might, at the very least, get something more than than the economically stagnant, politically oppressive Mugwumpery of the Democratic Party.”— Jacobin’s Alex Gourevitch

This trenchant passage about liberals’ reaction to the Tea Party summarizes a hugely significant yet little discussed truism: American politics has been inexorably lurching to the right not only because of the extremism of the Tea Party, but also because of a lack of Tea Party-like cohesion, organization and energy on the left. There are, of course, many factors that contribute to that sad reality including a successful war on the labor movement; a campaign finance system that makes conservative oligarchs even more powerful than they already are; and a mediasphere that ignores principles and tells liberals everything must be seen exclusively in partisan red-versus-blue terms. One factor, though, stands out for how it so destructively shapes the assumptions that define our political discourse. That factor can be called “liberal washing.”

Similar to green washing or so-called “gay washing”/“rainbow washing,” liberal washing is all about wrapping corporate America’s agenda in the veneer of fight-for-the-little-guy progressivism, thus portraying plutocrats’ radical rip-off schemes as ideologically moderate efforts to rescue the proles.

Liberal washing has always been around, of course. But it has really risen to prominence — and dominance — in modern times. Indeed, one of the most reliable political axioms of the last 30 years is this: If corporate America cooks up a scheme to rip off the middle class, Republicans will provide the bulk of the congressional votes for the scheme — but enough establishment-credentialed liberals inevitably will endorse the scheme to make it at least appear to be mainstream and bipartisan. Yes, it seems no matter how venal, underhanded or outright corrupt a heist may be, there always ends up being a group of icons with liberal billing ready to drive the getaway car.

The most reliable way to liberal-wash something is to get a famous Democrat to support it. This is because even though many Democratic politicians, party officials, operatives and pundits are neither liberal nor progressive, the media nonetheless usually portrays all people affiliated with the Democratic Party as uniformly liberal on all issues.

The famous examples of liberal washing come from the White House. A few decades ago, Democratic President Bill Clinton liberal-washed corporatist schemes like NAFTA and financial deregulation. Today, it is Democratic President Barack Obama liberal-washing the insurance industry’s healthcare initiatives and now joining with a handful of Democratic legislators to liberalwash – and legitimize – the right-wing crusade to slash Social Security benefits.(cont.)

Since: Sep 10

Redondo Beach, CA

#171263 Nov 2, 2013
Angel9999 wrote:
Vietnam was a huge mistake. Stalin met in Yalta with Roosevelt and Churchill after WW2 and Roosevelt was dying. He only lasted a few months after that. Stalin took advantage of both of them and got that 38th parallel agreement signed and that lead to the wars in Korea and Vietnam. Be damn glad Roosevelt won the war because otherwise the Jews would be dead and the rest of us would be goose stepping and speaking German. FDR was the greatest president in the history of this country.....PERIOD!!
Believe it or not I was a Republican for the first 30 years of my adult life. I voted for Eisenhower, Goldwater, Nixon three times....even Reagan once. Republicans used to be a different party. Now they're in the pockets of corporations and the rich. I wouldn't vote for another one of them of I live to 100. Let's see.....I'll be 80 next year so that might not be that far away.
I salute you.
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#171264 Nov 2, 2013
Angel9999 wrote:
Vietnam was a huge mistake. Stalin met in Yalta with Roosevelt and Churchill after WW2 and Roosevelt was dying. He only lasted a few months after that. Stalin took advantage of both of them and got that 38th parallel agreement signed and that lead to the wars in Korea and Vietnam. Be damn glad Roosevelt won the war because otherwise the Jews would be dead and the rest of us would be goose stepping and speaking German. FDR was the greatest president in the history of this country.....PERIOD!!
Believe it or not I was a Republican for the first 30 years of my adult life. I voted for Eisenhower, Goldwater, Nixon three times....even Reagan once. Republicans used to be a different party. Now they're in the pockets of corporations and the rich. I wouldn't vote for another one of them of I live to 100. Let's see.....I'll be 80 next year so that might not be that far away.
US Former GI Tommy Bridges
It was a useless war, as every war is.... How gaddamn foolish it is, the war. There's no war in the world that's worth fighting for, I don't care where it is. They can't tell me any different. Money, money is the thing that causes it all. I wouldn't be a bit surprised that the people that start wars and promote 'em are the men that make the money, make the ammunition, make the clothing and so forth. Just think of the poor kids that are starvin' to death in Asia and so forth that could be fed with how much you make one big shell out of.

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#171265 Nov 2, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>We are terrible picture takers. I got one of Homer in front of the falls with his poncho on but you can't even tell it's the falls with all the mist.
Prices were unbelievably high. I thought it was because it was a tourist spot but a man we spoke with said prices are high all over Canada. It's that universal healthcare.:)
Amateur photogs can still collect $25-100K on their pix. Just remember
composition (subject & lighting), focus, background, & centering. Can also be anything from scenic wonders, to yer backyard garden. But still lifes account for many 1st place prizes too.

Shifting gears, I'm seeing this ACA law get worse and worse by the day. Six people signed up on the 1st day. Many are also rejecting the ACA and opting for Medicaid.

Prices are skyrocketing (premiums & deductibles) and doctors who've spent an average of 12 years getting their shingles, are quitting in large numbers.

Obama "misled" the American people again by saying he won't apologize for insurance companies dropping their clients. He called the companies "bad apples". Obama said it's "FULL STEAM AHEAD".

The web site will be down for an unknown time period while the A-Team cleans out all the bugs. Experts are calling for 30 days (end of Nov)to see what transpires and get a better idea of whether this mess will clear up, repair web site, and decide if 1 year delay will be necessary.

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#171266 Nov 2, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I salute you.
What a shock!

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#171267 Nov 2, 2013
Lost In Transition wrote:
<quoted text>
So to re-cap, Republicans start wars while Democrats just get hood-winked and start huge mistakes.
Got it.
Huckabee played a collage of Obama clips from about 09 to current, on everything from Fast & Furious, to the NSA spying on our Euro friends.

Clip after clip showed Barry saying "he didn't know", "was unaware, or "I just learned of it from the media, same as you". And like Huckabee
said, "Obama's either being untruthful, or he's incredibly incompetant.

I vote for the 1st one. And I hope he keeps it up, because he just MAY
lie himself into an impeachment hearing.
G-spot

Tulsa, OK

#171268 Nov 3, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>We are terrible picture takers. I got one of Homer in front of the falls with his poncho on but you can't even tell it's the falls with all the mist.
Prices were unbelievably high. I thought it was because it was a tourist spot but a man we spoke with said prices are high all over Canada. It's that universal healthcare.
:)
So is this:

http://www.takepart.com/article/2013/02/20/op...
frankfazzieee

Donora, PA

#171269 Nov 3, 2013
youtube.com/watch... …is her dead yet

“Help Cecil Help!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#171270 Nov 3, 2013
Angel9999 wrote:
Vietnam was a huge mistake. Stalin met in Yalta with Roosevelt and Churchill after WW2 and Roosevelt was dying. He only lasted a few months after that. Stalin took advantage of both of them and got that 38th parallel agreement signed and that lead to the wars in Korea and Vietnam. Be damn glad Roosevelt won the war because otherwise the Jews would be dead and the rest of us would be goose stepping and speaking German. FDR was the greatest president in the history of this country.....PERIOD!!
Believe it or not I was a Republican for the first 30 years of my adult life. I voted for Eisenhower, Goldwater, Nixon three times....even Reagan once. Republicans used to be a different party. Now they're in the pockets of corporations and the rich. I wouldn't vote for another one of them of I live to 100. Let's see.....I'll be 80 next year so that might not be that far away.
Well, now ...

The war in Europe was almost over by the Yalta conference, but it took place 3 months before Germany finally surrendered. The division of Korea at the 38th parallel was not discussed at Yalta; the division of Vietnam wasn't even on anyone's radar.

The 38th parallel, like the division of Germany into different zones, was a military expedient - a place where different invading/occupying armies could meet up safely. Who "got" what was based in large part on who got their first.

The line dividing Korea was suggested by the U.S. right after the Russians joined the war in Asia, and was agreed to even though the western allies had no troops in Korea. The closest were in Okinawa, 600 miles away by sea.

The dividing line in Vietnam wasn't agreed to until nine years after the end of WWII.

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