Bush is a hero
Chris Clearwater

Chicago, IL

#171067 Oct 31, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
The typical right-wing attack: you're not patriotic; you're not one of us.
Hell, I'm a lot more patriotic than Clearwater.
I'd choose ny country over some god.
I call bs. One of the greatest parts of this nation is the fact we are a melting pot of many cultures, races, faiths and it is our strengths. You talk a good game but are so full of crapolo. So patriotic are you that you vest time into name calling (caveman Cruz) mocking Christians (thank God you don't have kids) to outright lies and smears (ask RR about the lies you've posted about him) You are so patriotic you can't stand an American that has a different world view. What a joke.
UIdiotRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#171068 Oct 31, 2013
Chris Clearwater wrote:
<quoted text>I call bs. One of the greatest parts of this nation is the fact we are a melting pot of many cultures, races, faiths and it is our strengths. You talk a good game but are so full of crapolo. So patriotic are you that you vest time into name calling (caveman Cruz) mocking Christians (thank God you don't have kids) to outright lies and smears (ask RR about the lies you've posted about him) You are so patriotic you can't stand an American that has a different world view. What a joke.
Using them as slaves and raping their talents to build a warring Empire, when no longer needed you throw them out, those low skilled immigrants used to as slaves to work in dangerous work and use high skilled force to make war technology... Nice!

“Help Cecil Help!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#171069 Oct 31, 2013
“If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet” Proverbs 29:9

Unfortunately, I can't find a Bible verse that addresses what happens when two fools have an argument, and for that reason I choose to stay out of the raging and laughing of Clearwater and Catcher.
Chris Clearwater

Chicago, IL

#171070 Oct 31, 2013
UIdiotRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>Using them as slaves and raping their talents to build a warring Empire, when no longer needed you throw them out, those low skilled immigrants used to as slaves to work in dangerous work and use high skilled force to make war technology... Nice!
Wtf?
UIdiotRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#171071 Oct 31, 2013
Chris Clearwater wrote:
<quoted text>Wtf?
whaT YOU clueless
dangerous jobs like asbestous abatement who fooled illegals into applying for this type of job WITH HALF US WAGES AND with little or no health benefits...,as most AMERICANS WHO IN KNOW WOULD RARELY TAKE THESE TYPE OF JOBS...
aND Agriculture jobs, what you know about slave wage job?
UIdiotRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#171072 Oct 31, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
“If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet” Proverbs 29:9
Unfortunately, I can't find a Bible verse that addresses what happens when two fools have an argument, and for that reason I choose to stay out of the raging and laughing of Clearwater and Catcher.
Do tell any real wise mans in this world today?

A fool is sometimes not a fool! If you play with a fool you become a real fool , a fool of a fool is real fool for the fool, fool! Confusing is not? ABahahahahahahahaaa

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#171073 Oct 31, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."
Samuel Johnson
"Ad hominems are Lyndi's most powerful weapon."
Catcher
Worthless troll!
UIdiotRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#171074 Oct 31, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
“If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet” Proverbs 29:9
Unfortunately, I can't find a Bible verse that addresses what happens when two fools have an argument, and for that reason I choose to stay out of the raging and laughing of Clearwater and Catcher.
"A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back." Proverbs 26:3

bAHAHHHAAAA
UIdiotRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#171075 Oct 31, 2013
"A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush,"

baHAHHAHAAAA
UIdiotRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#171076 Oct 31, 2013
In a deal there are two fools: the one who asks too much and the one who asks too little. (Russian Proverb)
Chris Clearwater

Chicago, IL

#171077 Oct 31, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
He's such an a$$. Showing up in Boston & tangling up traffic more with his stupid motorcade on the day of a World Series game.
People were in dual celebration mode and still remembering the loss of those in the Boston marathon bombing- a big day in the city and here comes the ding-dong in chief.
"Hey, it's all about ME!"
No Barry, it isn't ALL about you.
Boston Strong.
Obama doesn't have a clue what yesterday meant to that city. How pathetic is that....
Good point. I saw a show that a Jewish organization in Boston gave a power point presentation to the FBI in 2004 on the radicalization going on at a Boston Mosque. Thankful that no matter how hard people try to hurt us they fail each time.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Irvine, CA

#171078 Oct 31, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey doofus, in your last post you touted yourself as being more patriotic than Chris and now you're calling yourself a scoundrel.
You really should try exercising that thing bouncing around in your skull once in awhile. It's getting stupid.
Start out slow. Try this.
Suppose you have two blocks of putty shaped in cube form and the edges are 10 cm. How many spheres with a radius of 5 cm can you make with that amount of putty?
You're silly, Missy Putty.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Irvine, CA

#171079 Oct 31, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
"It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from his government."
Thomas Paine
And for your reading comprehension comfort, here it is in Swahili.
"Ni wajibu wa patriot kulinda nchi yake kutoka serikali yake."
Cheers!
Ted Cruz and the Teabaggers!!!

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Irvine, CA

#171080 Oct 31, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
“If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet” Proverbs 29:9
Unfortunately, I can't find a Bible verse that addresses what happens when two fools have an argument, and for that reason I choose to stay out of the raging and laughing of Clearwater and Catcher.
"Don't argue with an idiot. S/he will drag you down to his/her level and defeat you with experience."

Anon.?

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Irvine, CA

#171081 Oct 31, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
“If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet” Proverbs 29:9
Unfortunately, I can't find a Bible verse that addresses what happens when two fools have an argument, and for that reason I choose to stay out of the raging and laughing of Clearwater and Catcher.
Clearwater laughs?
Lost In Transition

United States

#171082 Oct 31, 2013
HipGnozizzz wrote:
<quoted text>
I wonder if you've read the Constitutional debates, the Federalist papers, and the Anti-Federalist papers? I've read them at leisure here and there over the years, and again recently, what with all the "return to the Founding Father's intent" sort of talk. I'm not sure where your "we vs. they" argument comes in? OK I admit it - I'm not even sure what your "we vs. they" argument means....?
No one in the gov't took over anything in regards to personal health care or choice, in spite of all bluster to the contrary, except to utilize the Heritage Foundation/Republican conception of an individual mandate, seeing as it is a personal responsibility that many people were shirking. Then we had the spectacle of many others of claimed "personal" and "fiscal responsibility" enabling them by screaming about the "liberty" to foist their costs secretly on the rest of us by the least cost-effective means possible.
I'm not sure there's been a more glaring example of blatant mob hypocrisy in my lifetime. The ACA works to end that national hypocrisy. As I feel I walk the talk with standards of personal and fiscal responsibility, for me that's a good thing. It is a shame the government had to be the one to do it, because people couldn't or wouldn't do it for themselves.
It's also a good thing that the gov't institute a program that would help people who would provide for themselves but simply can't due to the crushing cost of commodified sickness and misery. I sure don't mind if the good ol' Doc makes a living, but I think it's a national stain that we are so afraid of the slur of "socialism" that we actually prefer a system that bankrupts entire families into the next generation for the crime of contracting a catastrophic injury or illness. We who aren't ill (yet) are left like the nervous wildebeest watching the lion devour the weak, and secretly glad it was him and not us.
I've said all along - if we pass a law that forbids caregivers from defraying indigent costs among the rest of us, then I agree - the reason for the individual mandate would be moot. Nothing else in the ACA infringes one iota on personal liberty.
<quoted text>Anytime anyone wants to realistically discuss the considerable and concerted efforts by the modern anti-Federalists
My guess is I've read as much about our founding as the average guy that knows just enough to be dangerous. I find that interpreting the writings that founded this nation is very similar to interpreting the writings that founded our monotheistic religions. You ask 5 people for their take on a passage, and you'll get 6 opinions. So I seldom ask out of anything more than an honest curiosity and a glance into their reasoning.
"They" is the largest special interest group on the face of the planet. They specialize in self-promotion, self-enrichment and, above all, self-preservation. Because they's special interest is they. I used to think of they as a giant corporation, but that gives them way too much cred. They produce nothing, and in that process consume more capital than any corporation on the face of the planet. I don't believe that is what was intended for they, but it's certainly what they've become. IMO.
As for obamacare (sorry, I can't call it the AFFORDABLE care act for obvious reasons), it's off and running. And I'm good with that. During the back and forth idiocy of the government funding debate I said the one thing the Repubs should push for is NO exemptions. Not big business, not the individual, not obama's pals. Let this thing play out full throttle, and let the people witness the ride. I believe it's gonna end in a nasty wreck, but sometimes pain is only way to learn. Then hopefully we can get back to the two real problems, cost and the truly destitute, which I'm afraid will both be bigger problems than before we "fixed" them.
Sorry about chopping your post, ran out of pixels.
Lost In Transition

United States

#171083 Oct 31, 2013
HipGnozizzz wrote:
<quoted text>
I wonder if you've read the Constitutional debates, the Federalist papers, and the Anti-Federalist papers? I've read them at leisure here and there over the years, and again recently, what with all the "return to the Founding Father's intent" sort of talk. I'm not sure where your "we vs. they" argument comes in? OK I admit it - I'm not even sure what your "we vs. they" argument means....?
No one in the gov't took over anything in regards to personal health care or choice, in spite of all bluster to the contrary, except to utilize the Heritage Foundation/Republican conception of an individual mandate, seeing as it is a personal responsibility that many people were shirking. Then we had the spectacle of many others of claimed "personal" and "fiscal responsibility" enabling them by screaming about the "liberty" to foist their costs secretly on the rest of us by the least cost-effective means possible.
I'm not sure there's been a more glaring example of blatant mob hypocrisy in my lifetime. The ACA works to end that national hypocrisy. As I feel I walk the talk with standards of personal and fiscal responsibility, for me that's a good thing. It is a shame the government had to be the one to do it, because people couldn't or wouldn't do it for themselves.
It's also a good thing that the gov't institute a program that would help people who would provide for themselves but simply can't due to the crushing cost of commodified sickness and misery. I sure don't mind if the good ol' Doc makes a living, but I think it's a national stain that we are so afraid of the slur of "socialism" that we actually prefer a system that bankrupts entire families into the next generation for the crime of contracting a catastrophic injury or illness. We who aren't ill (yet) are left like the nervous wildebeest watching the lion devour the weak, and secretly glad it was him and not us.
I've said all along - if we pass a law that forbids caregivers from defraying indigent costs among the rest of us, then I agree - the reason for the individual mandate would be moot. Nothing else in the ACA infringes one iota on personal liberty.
Many nations have figured out how to care for their people AND prosper, and they are leaving us behind to quarrel over semantics like "socialism".
My guess is I've read as much about our founding as the average guy that knows just enough to be dangerous. I find that interpreting the writings that founded this nation is very similar to interpreting the writings that founded our monotheistic religions. You ask 5 people for their take on a passage, and you'll get 6 opinions. So I seldom debate those opinions out of anything more than an honest curiosity and a glance into their reasoning.
"They" is the largest special interest group on the face of the planet. They specialize in self-promotion, self-enrichment and, above all, self-preservation. Because they's special interest is they. I used to think of they as a giant corporation, but that gives them way too much cred. They produce nothing, and in that process consume more capital than any corporation on the face of the planet. I don't believe that is what was intended for they, but it's certainly what they've become. IMO.
As for obamacare (sorry, I can't call it the AFFORDABLE care act for obvious reasons), it's off and running. And I'm good with that. During the back and forth idiocy of the government funding debate I said the one thing the Repubs should push for is NO exemptions. Not big business, not the individual, not obama's pals. Let this thing play out full throttle, and let the people witness the ride. I believe it's gonna end in a nasty wreck, but sometimes pain is only way to learn. Then hopefully we can get back to the two real problems, cost and the truly destitute, which I'm afraid will both be bigger problems than before we "fixed" them.
Sorry about chopping your post, ran out of pixels.
Lost In Transition

United States

#171084 Oct 31, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
You're silly, Missy Putty.
The answer was about four.
Unless my math is getting shaky, in which case it's some other number and I deny ever making this post.
Lost In Transition

United States

#171086 Oct 31, 2013
Chris Clearwater wrote:
<quoted text>Time will indeed tell. 237 years into this experiment. It has done wonders. I've met enough people that have lived in unspeakable bondage to know we've been a success.
Can we again?
Sure we can. Sometimes ya just gotta wash, rinse and repeat.
Lost In Transition

United States

#171087 Oct 31, 2013
bad bob wrote:
<quoted text>
Not only amazing LIT, but if actually implemented, could be the beginning of the end.
The fact that such action is even considered a viable option by central banks is mind boggling. Even more mind boggling is their putting it in writing. Goofs.
I suppose Cyprus wouldn't be surprised, though.

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