Bush is a hero

Since: Apr 07

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#171031 Oct 30, 2013
bad bob wrote:
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Iraq was bolstered by China, Russia, Chirac's France, and to some extent, Germany.

Regardless of how Hussein came to power (IMO), there comes a time when an oppressive reign turns into human rights violations. No dictator on earth should have the power to use and abuse, beat, rape, and murder anyone he feels doesn't comply with his wishes, whether it's his own people or neighbors.

And I realize the US is NOT the global police force. But I believe since [we] were already in Iraq, it was our duty to stop Hussein from continuing his rule of terror. To leave him in power would have sent the wrong message to other ruthless autocrats, and caused MANY sleepless nights, knowing that something could've been done.

Bush the elder had a chance to go after Hussein at the end of the 1st Gulf War, but the doves in Washington told GHW that his mission was complete. It was time to withdraw.

If it was my decision, I'd have sent Gen Schwarzkopf & his army to Baghdad. Considering the turn of events and horrible loss of lives during the GW Bush Iraq war, do you think that would have been a good idea back then?
For what it's worth, I do.

Since: Apr 07

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#171032 Oct 30, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
The Scandal
=====
Bob: "Did you hear about the Obama administration scandal?
Jim: "You mean the Mexican gun running?"
Bob: "No, the other one."
Jim: "You mean SEAL Team 6?"
Bob: "No, the other one."
Jim: "You mean the State Department lying about Benghazi?"
Bob: "No, not that one."
Jim: "You mean voter fraud?"
Bob: "No, the other one."

Jim: "You mean the military not getting their votes counted?"
Bob: "No, the other one."
Jim: "The NSA monitoring our phone calls, e-mails and everything else?"
Bob: "No, the other one."
Jim: "You mean the use of drones in our own country without the benefit of the law?"
Bob: "No, the other one."
Jim: "Giving 123 Technologies $300 million and right after it declared bankruptcy and was sold to the Chinese?"
Bob: "No, a different one."
Jim: "You mean the president arming the Muslim Brotherhood?"
Bob: "No the other one:.

Jim: "The IRS targeting conservatives?"
Bob: "No, the other one."
Jim: "The Dept. of Justice spying on the press?"
Bob: "No, the other one."
Jim: "Sebelius shaking down health insurance executives?"
Bob: "No, the other one."
Jim: "Giving Solyndra $500 MILLION and 3 months later they declared bankruptcy and then the Chinese bought it?"
Bob: "No, not that one."
Jim: "The president's threat to impose gun control by Executive Order in order to bypass Congress?"
Bob: "No, the other one."

Jim: "The president's repeated violation of the law requiring him to submit a budget no later than the first Monday in February?"
Bob: "No, the other one."
Jim: "The 2012 vote where 115% of all registered voters in some counties voted 100% for Obama?"
Bob: "No, the other one."
Jim: "The president's unconstitutional recess appointments in an attempt to circumvent the Senate's advise-and-consent role?"
Bob: "No, the other one."
Jim: "The State Department interfering with an Inspector General investigation on departmental sexual misconduct?"
Bob: "No, the other one."
Jim: "Clinton, the IRS, Clapper, and Holder all lying to Congress?"
Bob: "No, not that one."

Jim: "I give up!... Oh wait, I think I got it! You mean those 65 misguided voters, many of whom don't pay taxes and get tons of free stuff from actual taxpayers and stuck us with the most pandering, corrupt, unfit presidential administration in American history?"
Bob: "YEAH! THAT'S THE ONE!"
Priceless :)

Since: Apr 07

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#171033 Oct 30, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
Sebelious:
.....just can't decide if she's more inclined to wear Prada or steal dalmatian puppies.
Let's hope she chooses the Prada. If she can't even answer a question truthfully I doubt she's capable of caring for puppies.

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#171034 Oct 30, 2013
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>Fabulous. Is the plan to eliminate all the illegal aliens, by rounding them up like cattle and executing them, Bob?
<DISCLAIMER> Normally I don't respond to worthless trolls like you, but ya happen to catch me in a rare good mood.

Show the class where I said "eliminate all the illegal aliens" in that msg. I don't even see it encrypted.
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>
Or maybe just deporting them to an Antarctic island, and washing your hands of them...yeah, that sounds more like you.
Obviously you have NO idea what "sounds more like" me. Because if I were in charge of deporting illegal aliens, I'd just send them back where they came from, and tell 'em to apply for US citizenship like other LEGAL immigrants have been doing. The Antarctic Island scenario sounds more like a cold, calculating b(u)tch. Know anyone like that?
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>
And if not, what DO you suggest, to 'rid the country' of this scourge?
I've already delineated exactly what I'd do on numerous occasions, most recently several months ago. If you weren't payin' attention, that's not something in which I'm concerned.

Since: Apr 07

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#171035 Oct 30, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
Cruz was referencing a national dialogue, he wasn't singling out any one group. But your styrofoam roadblock was cute. And bobin, personally attacking fellow republicans is a two way street. I've been listening to you and your hard core right wing conservatives blasting moderates for weeks for not going along with Cruz and I'm infinitely pleased they didn't.

Let me pose this to you. Had Cruz succeeded in defunding the ACA, the dialogue we're having now about how truly dysfunctional it is wouldn't be happening. Hopefully you can bring yourself to agreeing with me on that point. We'd still be in speculation mode.
And I'm not talking about the technical problems. I am talking about the crushing effects of this legislation which would fundamentally change healthcare, the economic climate and the political tone in the country for the forseeable future and those changes we are seeing up close and personal is because the law did NOT get defunded. I'm of the opinion that sometimes a populace needs to feel and see and negative effects of particular legislation in order to be convinced it really is a bad idea; not unlike letting a child fall off a bike who insists on riding one without training wheels before they're big enough. The overly cocky and headstrong sometimes need to fall off and scrap a knee and it needs to hurt a little in order to get their attention.

Had Cruz gotten his way, he would have been doing Obama a great big favor and I, along with a lot of other people in this country am in no mood to do him any favors. It would have bought him time ro repair and bandaid and patch the thing up, get his talking points in better in order to roll it out more smoothly and I adamantly believe as painful as this thing is and the nasty repercussions of people losing their insurance, prices soaring, peoples hours being cut, jobs lost and people yelling, "Hey, wait a minute, that's not what I was told," absolutely needed to happen. America needed to feel the pain of this thing and those opposed to it from the outset, needed to be able to say with 100% surety, "I told you this would happen and now here's the proof." If the ACA is allowed to fail because it is a failed idea of the desperately flawed ideology called liberalism, then hallelujah. I've been wanting to prove that to the whimsical left, for ages.

And how bad is this monstrous liberal plan? They need young healthy Americans to sign on to make the thing fly. What the head in the clouds liberals forget, is due to Obama's liberal economic policies, there are NO jobs for young people ergo they have no money to squander on something they don't need, don't want and can't afford. Obama, Obamcare and the liberal philosophy is about to get a great big wake up called, IT DOESN'T WORK and if everyone would get the hell out of the way and let it happen, maybe we can get on with a more rational dialogue.
Yep. "Pride goes before a fall."

Obama & Co. should have remembered that bit of Biblical wisdom.
UIdiotRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#171036 Oct 31, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
Cruz was referencing a national dialogue, he wasn't singling out any one group. But your styrofoam roadblock was cute. And bobin, personally attacking fellow republicans is a two way street. I've been listening to you and your hard core right wing conservatives blasting moderates for weeks for not going along with Cruz and I'm infinately pleased they didn't.
Let me pose this to you. Had Cruz succeeded in defunding the ACA, eadstrong sometimes need to fall off and scrap a knee and it needs to hurt a little in order to get their attention.
Had Cruz gotten his way, he would have been doing Obama a great big favor and I, along with a lot of other people in this country am in no mood to do him any favors. It would have bought him time ro repair and bandaid and patch the thing up, get his talking points in better in order to roll it out more smoothly and I adamently believe as painful as this thing is and the nasty repercssions of people losing their insurance, prices soaring, peoples hours being cut, jobs lost and people yelling, "Hey, wait a minute, that's not what I was told," absolutely needed to happen. America needed to feel the pain of this thing and those opposed to it from the outset, needed to be able to say with 100% surety, "I told you this would happen and now here's the proof." If the ACA is allowed to fail because it is a failed idea of the desperately flawed ideology called liberalism, then hallelujah. I've been wanting to prove that to the whimsical left, for ages.
And how bad is this monstrous liberal plan? They need young healthy Americans to sign on to make the thing fly. What the head in the clouds liberals forget, is due to Obama's liberal economic policies, there are NO jobs for young people ergo they have no money to squander on something they don't need, don't want and can't afford. Obama, Obamcare and the liberal philosophy is about to get a great big wake up called, IT DOESN'T WORK and if everyone would get the hell out of the way and let it happen, maybe we can get on with a more rational dialogue.
seems like you caught bobin in heat! ABHAHahahhaaa Cut to fit!

this nail him to a Iron cross!
======FROM!
thewordofme

“Darwin was right”

Since: Jun 11

40 min ago

Really scary article about Tea Party darling, Senator Ted Cruz.

“In a sermon last year at an Irving, Texas, megachurch that helped elect Ted Cruz to the U.S. Senate, Cruz’ father Rafael Cruz indicated that his son was among the evangelical Christians who are anointed as “kings” to take control of all sectors of society, an agenda commonly referred to as the “Seven Mountains” mandate, and “bring the spoils of war to the priests”, thus helping to bring about a prophesied “great transfer of wealth”, from the “wicked” to righteous gentile believers.” Read more at:
http://disinfo.com/2013/10/ted-cruzs-father-p ...

They are Christian Dominionist and they also believe that their sect of Christianity should rule the United States (and probably the world) and the Old Testament should be the basis of all laws.

These evangelical fundamentalist crackpot Christians are really dangerous and will not stop trying to launch their evil agenda on society.

“Cruz spoke of “Kings who are anointed to go to war, win the war, and bring the spoils of war to the priests.” Discussion of the now-notorious speech by Rafael Cruz has missed the fact that Ted Cruz was subsequently blessed and anointed by prominent dominionist pastors, in effect as a “king” in the political/governmental sphere, at a special blessing ceremony at the Marriott Hotel in Des Moines, Iowa, at a July 19th-20th 2013 rally designed to draw pastors into politics.“

Watch out for this guy

Since: Dec 07

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#171037 Oct 31, 2013
bad bob wrote:
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Not only amazing LIT, but if actually implemented, could be the beginning of the end.
Adopting Keynesian Economics was the beginning of the end.

The chickens have come home to roost!

Since: Dec 07

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#171038 Oct 31, 2013
Lost In Transition wrote:
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What good is any idea if it's going to be carried out with "corruption, abuse, profiteering, and fraud"? Knowing these things will occur, is it really the next logical step?

The next logical step, to me, would be for the enablers of this " corruption, abuse, profiteering, and fraud" to be taken clear out of the equation.
I had to scratch my head on that one also.
Welcome to the new normal.

Since: Dec 07

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#171039 Oct 31, 2013
HipGnozizzz wrote:
<quoted text>You don't believe "they" can be held accountable, then? Sounds like a failed experiment.....
"They" aren't.
Back to the drawing board eh?

Since: Dec 07

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#171040 Oct 31, 2013
Lost In Transition wrote:
<quoted text>
The whole experiment rested on the belief that we could do better than "they". That we knew what was best for us, not "they". I still believe that. But enough of the people in this country now, and over time, believe that "they" know best, that "they" should lead, that "they" should take over responsibilities, that "they" should dictate, "they" should control, "they" should enforce, "they" should be the final word.
I don't know if you could say the experiment failed, I reckon that would depend on what outcome you were looking for. For the people that used their rights and votes to build and empower a massive, disfunctional Federal government, well, I suppose it was a ringing success. Personally, I believe the experiment has failed, and I believe our country is in dire straights because of it. Time will tell.
It's always darkest before the storm.
HipGnozizzz

Dahinda, IL

#171041 Oct 31, 2013
NEWS-FLASH wrote:
<quoted text>
Adopting Keynesian Economics was the beginning of the end.
The chickens have come home to roost!
Speaking of head-scratchers....."adop ting Keynesian economics? The West adopted Keynesian theory back in the 30's, and it seems it worked pretty well for over 30 years, seeing as how we generally characterize the late 40's thru the early-70's as an idyllic age of general prosperity in the Western world often called the Golden Age of Capitalism.

The US and The UK in particular got away from Keynes in the 70's, and adopted Monetarist policies exemplified by Friedman among others. The US went cautious "trickle-down economics" in the 80's, and full-hog "piss-on-you-middle-class " in the oughts.

So, how's them chickens again?
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#171042 Oct 31, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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You guys are so dramatic.
He's patriotic and loves his country, Catcher; sentiments you don't grasp because you've never felt them.
Don't knock what you can't understand. It's shallow.

Since: Dec 07

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#171043 Oct 31, 2013
How will you respond for the next three years when President Obama says, "Take my word for it!"

(Rhetorical)
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#171044 Oct 31, 2013
Roberta G wrote:
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Let's hope she chooses the Prada. If she can't even answer a question truthfully I doubt she's capable of caring for puppies.
lol- I was thinking every time I see Sebelious, she reminds me of a cross between Meryl Streep in The Devil Wears Prada and Cruella de Vil in 101 Dalmatians.
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#171045 Oct 31, 2013
HipGnozizzz wrote:
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What is the average duration for those utilizing the safety net? What percentage of people who utilize social programs remain on them for more than, say, five years?
I know the numbers. I suspect you choose not to. Queers the pitch. I also know first-hand of the efficacy of such programs as utilized by a divorced woman with children in difficult straits thru no fault of their own, the duration of such help, and the contributing members of society that resulted. So, yes, it can and is done every day.
No, you don't know the numbers or you'd never make such a ridiculous comment. You also evidently, are unaware of the vast difference in percentages between generational dependance and situational dependence and those differences can be best exemplified through pictorials when you look into families, neighborhoods, communites, town and cities where the decay, poverty and hopelessness have been staples for -----> generations.
You also I guess didn't get the memo that today in the United States, 72% of all babies born to in the African American community are born to unwed mothers so your comment about "divorced woman with children in difficult straits thru no fault of their own," doesn't remotely address that large and looming issue.

I like your confidence when you know what you're talking about. I don't like it when you don't and if you suspect I'd go at ramming speed to hold liberalism accountable for a ton of these woes, you'd be absolutely correct.

On other fronts?
My Red Sox won
Mitt Romney blasted Obama yesterday.
The White House is in panic mode.
And Ted Cruz has changed his tune.

It's a good day in Lyndi-land.

Since: Dec 07

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#171046 Oct 31, 2013
HipGnozizzz wrote:
<quoted text>Speaking of head-scratchers....."adop ting Keynesian economics? The West adopted Keynesian theory back in the 30's, and it seems it worked pretty well for over 30 years, seeing as how we generally characterize the late 40's thru the early-70's as an idyllic age of general prosperity in the Western world often called the Golden Age of Capitalism.

The US and The UK in particular got away from Keynes in the 70's, and adopted Monetarist policies exemplified by Friedman among others. The US went cautious "trickle-down economics" in the 80's, and full-hog "piss-on-you-middle-class " in the oughts.

So, how's them chickens again?
Ponzi schemes ALAWAYS “work pretty well” in the beginning.
If they didn’t, they would collapse on themselves short term.

Not up on UK Economic Policy but here in the good ole’ US of A, do QE1 / QE2 / QE3 / to infinite and beyond, ring any bells?

Even in theory we couldn’t buy our way out of this jamb “WE” have gotten ourselves into.

So, how’s them chickens again?
You tell me.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Redondo Beach, CA

#171047 Oct 31, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
He's patriotic and loves his country, Catcher; sentiments you don't grasp because you've never felt them.
Don't knock what you can't understand. It's shallow.
The typical right-wing attack: you're not patriotic; you're not one of us.

Hell, I'm a lot more patriotic than Clearwater.

I'd choose ny country over some god.

Since: Dec 07

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#171048 Oct 31, 2013
"I'll Gladly Pay You Tuesday for a Hamburger Today"
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#171049 Oct 31, 2013
NEWS-FLASH wrote:
How will you respond for the next three years when President Obama says, "Take my word for it!"
(Rhetorical)
He's such an a$$. Showing up in Boston & tangling up traffic more with his stupid motorcade on the day of a World Series game.

People were in dual celebration mode and still remembering the loss of those in the Boston marathon bombing- a big day in the city and here comes the ding-dong in chief.

"Hey, it's all about ME!"

No Barry, it isn't ALL about you.

Boston Strong.
Obama doesn't have a clue what yesterday meant to that city. How pathetic is that....

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

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#171050 Oct 31, 2013
HipGnozizzz wrote:
<quoted text>Speaking of head-scratchers....."adop ting Keynesian economics? The West adopted Keynesian theory back in the 30's, and it seems it worked pretty well for over 30 years, seeing as how we generally characterize the late 40's thru the early-70's as an idyllic age of general prosperity in the Western world often called the Golden Age of Capitalism.
The US and The UK in particular got away from Keynes in the 70's, and adopted Monetarist policies exemplified by Friedman among others. The US went cautious "trickle-down economics" in the 80's, and full-hog "piss-on-you-middle-class " in the oughts.
So, how's them chickens again?
It worked pretty well for the have-nots, Hip. The haves, well...they can't be havin' that.

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