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#170814
Oct 25, 2013
 
UIdiotRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>S/h/b ... and you without /lack off Moral and ethic... You war mongering NFL grunting stooge! A BWhahahaaaa
S/h/b...posted in English, instead of broken gibberish.
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1) I do have a problem with bigots and racist like the one on cnbc that I posted about.

2) In fact I wish more folks on the left took off the mask and really spoke what they feel.
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1) Many people agree with you on that. Do you think there is any bigotry or racism worth addressing within the Tea Party and with some of it's Christian members?

The reason I ask, is because if there IS, or even if that is just that perception, I think you can look to that as to the root of the problem you're experiencing with backlash. You and I work differently, I guess. If a whole lot of people were pointing in my direction yelling "SMOKE!," the first thing I'd do is look for fire to find out why they were yelling "SMOKE!" You just tell people there is no smoke and would prefer it if they'd just keep their opinions to themselves; thus, never putting to rest if there was any truth in what they were yelling.

2) You say you wish more on the left would tell you how they feel and then you turn around and pretty much tell your opponents to buzz off.
Case in point:
Chris Clearwater wrote:
<quoted text>Uh Hip, I don't care about much of anything you say or post in your attempt to smear. You voted (twice) for the most self serving potus in my lifetime. Most of your crap I hear on a local progassive station. Carry on.


You're telling a poster you don't care about his opinion, you're telling him what he sees as truth is smear, you're bashing him for exercising his right to vote differently from you, you're telling him most of what he says is crap and finally, with authority you don't have, you condescendingly give him permission to "carry on."

Do you not see how that comes across?
Plus, you just said you want to know how they feel, then you just annihilated someone for telling you how they feel.

Seems kinda screwy to me up here on the turnip truck!

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#170817
Oct 25, 2013
 
Chris Clearwater wrote:
<quoted text>He has no shame. Like I said I want more people like Grayson to share his hate for the people he claims to serve. And yes Sister, hate is the right adjective to use with this rep from Orlando that had often spoken of fellow Americans with a different pov like this.
I really don’t think it will make much of a difference Chris. The electorate will gasp for a few days and if lucky, a few weeks then forget it. After all, we are talking about the public memory span. Your side has had its moments as well. Gotta love Google!

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#170818
Oct 25, 2013
 
bad bob wrote:
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BTW thanks for taking the time for these responses.

There'll always be controversy, criticisms and differing opinions, especially on a topic as violent & brutal as war. If you watch the "Prime Ministers Questions" on c-span http://www.c-span.org/Series/Prime-Ministers -... one might think these opposing parties are ready to take up swords and maces at any moment, and go at it.

But I still believe the US to be a noble country, even with the huge mistakes it has made over the years as regards to justification for invasion or war.

But there are only so many few countries able to stop a larger bully (for example) from pushing a smaller country around or worse: Iraq-Kuwait, China-Taiwan, NKorea-SKorea, and so on.

Once the bully sees how easy it is, with no opposition, the bully can only be emboldened to keep going until he either gets all he wants OR is stopped by a formidable opponent.
Funny site! Kind-a-funny that is.

I’d like to think we have become the best of the worst. However, as I continue to research, via the internet, I am left with the horrifying thought that it is the American people and not the Government that deserve the praise. It is a truism that the game of chess cannot be played with out the pawns.

Translation – We are losing our nobility, not by choice but by design. imo
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Oct 25, 2013
 
Europes anger at Obama grows over NSA spying
By Los Angeles Times October 25, 2013

LONDON -- European leaders united in outrage Thursday over reported U.S. spying, with German Chancellor Angela Merkel declaring that trust between her government and the Obama administration would need to be rebuilt after reports that U.S. intelligence agencies might have tapped her cellphone.

Amid signs of anger from close allies over mass electronic surveillance, Germany's Foreign Ministry also summoned U.S. Ambassador John B. Emerson to make clear its displeasure. Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle said afterward that he had demanded that "these activities that have been reported will be comprehensively investigated. We need the truth now."
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Ho hum, just another day in the Obama administration. The good news is the president doesn't know anything about this (he never does) but he'll get to the bottom of it in a jiffy! Yay!

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#170820
Oct 25, 2013
 
bad bob wrote:
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That's why I believe it needs to be reformed. There's too much corruption, too much "diplomatic immunity", and no freakin' agency with integrity allows a terrorist nation to chair a global panel to address Human Rights Violations simply because they were next in line for the job. Ridiculous.
Who will reform it? The rooster is guarding the hen house. Maybe a messiah will rise up from among us!/sarcasm

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#170821
Oct 25, 2013
 
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>Oh good lord the government shutdown was not Cruz's fault or depending on how you look at it, not to his credit. It is what Obama wanted and he wanted to be sure it just was unbearable, and yet we bore it just fine. A gov't shutdown is nothing new.(Yawn) what else ya got?
He said, she said.
I agree with ya and I don’t even have a dog in this hunt. Interesting how a given set of “facts” can be misinterpreted by eye-witnesses when they become part of a “side.”
Waaasssuuuppp with that?

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#170822
Oct 25, 2013
 
bad bob wrote:
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Interesting reading. I admit freely I'm not up on these things as I should be or as you, WWW, HG and a few others in here obviously are. My "knowledge" comes from street level. But I can tell you as I've said a few times b4 in here. Alliances change. And some I can imagine change often. The best example I've offered is Japan. Once our deadly enemy, now a strong ally.

Pakistan is a mixed ally. You have the pro-western gov't on one side and the terrorist sympathizer military on the other. The US needs the Pakistani gov't to help with terrorism in the region, and to help control their military from turning over nukes to the bad guys. But it's not likely Islamabad can stop any determined force from taking a couple nuclear warheads, and THAT is one scary proposition.
Google helps with the research.
You’re pretty savvy for just being street smart.

Agreed, allies change and will continue to do so as Nations continually persist in offering enticements for their support. Some, like myself, would use the term “lures” because I believe the trade-offs negotiated usually lean in favor of the more powerful nation which ultimately result in depleting the country’s natural resources and the establishing of a military foothold in a foreign land. A bloodless War if you will. Well…kind-a-sorta bloodless!

Is that a good thing? Maybe / maybe not, kinda depends if the Nation is honor bound. I would prefer that when a country promotes “honor and justice for all” to actually emulate those words, especially when choosing allies (agents) to associate with. If that doesn’t happen then a stain is cast on those words which becomes really hard to remove. Imo. We as a society then start mumbling phrases like,“Isn’t that ironic?” instead of “Isn’t that hypocritical!”

Nukes HAVE upped the ante.

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#170823
Oct 25, 2013
 
bad bob wrote:
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The US went into Iraq because all the intel pointed to Hussein being a threat.[We] found out later that Hussein wasn't the great threat that many around the globe believed. But he was still in violation of UN Resolutions HE agreed to as part of the cease-fire in Gulf War I. Hussein thumbed his nose at the world for nearly 13 years b4 GW Bush finally had enough, and then gave him an additional 48 hours to leave Baghdad. As you know, bolstered by Russia, China, Germany, and Chirac's France, Hussein refused.
The US went into Afghanistan after the people responsible for 9/11/01.
There is a unified war, but it's not against a particular country. It's the Global War on Terror. There are many terrorist groups, some very familiar from the news, and some less known but just as deadly: al Qaeda, Taliban, Hamas, Hezbollah, Abu Sayyef......
http://www.nctc.gov/site/groups/

The US has said to other countries, if you harbor, aid, or allow terrorists to set up training camps, you are just as guilty as the terrorists. Some key countries have complied voluntarily, some bad guys were chased out by the US military or coalition forces. Still other countries are sympathetic to the terrorist cause and have allowed them to stay with them. Yemen, Somalia, NW Africa, and several more. Several western "interests" have been terrorized, from the USS Cole, to the subway bombing in the UK, to the train bombers in Spain, and on and on.
Oops, we made a mistake, bad intel? We apologize? Sorry Mr. Bob, I feel that is just unacceptable. Personally I’m not feelin’ it. Too many lives were snuffed out unnecessarily. What a waste, what a waste. Not to mention the lives of horror that will continue as a result of that decision.

War as been considered a “viable” alternative by our ancestors to settling human dispute and has inflicted widespread destruction and terror on many groups of the past including the groups you have listed, the bed has been made for us and we are forced to lye down in it. Politicians have no other alternative other than to continue this barbaric world bankers past time. Imo.

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#170824
Oct 25, 2013
 
bad bob wrote:
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Thanks man, apology unnecessary. All ya gotta do is just say something like
"be back later to answer this (these)". But of course no one can force ya to do anything on an anonymous board like this one.
I've enjoyed reading your level-headed exchanges with some of the other posters prior to chatting with me. Nice change-of-pace.
Kind words!
I’d tip my hat to you if I was wearing one.
I’ve enjoyed your exchange and perspectives as well!

Here…have half of my Snickers bar!
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Oct 25, 2013
 
Lyndi wrote:
Europes anger at Obama grows over NSA spying
By Los Angeles Times October 25, 2013

LONDON -- European leaders united in outrage Thursday over reported U.S. spying, with German Chancellor Angela Merkel declaring that trust between her government and the Obama administration would need to be rebuilt after reports that U.S. intelligence agencies might have tapped her cellphone.

Amid signs of anger from close allies over mass electronic surveillance, Germany's Foreign Ministry also summoned U.S. Ambassador John B. Emerson to make clear its displeasure. Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle said afterward that he had demanded that "these activities that have been reported will be comprehensively investigated. We need the truth now."
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Ho hum, just another day in the Obama administration. The good news is the president doesn't know anything about this (he never does) but he'll get to the bottom of it in a jiffy! Yay!
He'll find out on the golf course.

I heard yesterday during C-Span's coverage of the Web-Site hearing that the Health Care website crashed only after 2000 or so hits.

hmmmm...
Lyndi

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Oct 25, 2013
 
NEWS-FLASH wrote:
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He said, she said.
I agree with ya and I don’t even have a dog in this hunt. Interesting how a given set of “facts” can be misinterpreted by eye-witnesses when they become part of a “side.”
Waaasssuuuppp with that?
Maybe it'll all blow over, maybe it won't. But when the GOP polls were substantially higher before the shutdown than after the shutdown I think it's worth looking at. Elections can be won or lost on these sorts of things.


*** Poll: Americans not happy about shutdown; more blame GOP- CBS

*** Boehner takes shutdown hit in new CNN poll

*** Oct 21, 2013 · More than half say it's bad for the country the GOP controls the House

*** Oct 22, 2013 · Polls Raise Fear Among GOP That Shutdown Severely Hurt Party

*** Major damage to GOP after shutdown- Washington Post Oct 22, 2013

*** Oct 24, 2013 · After the Shutdown, Republicans Sort Through the Wreckage

*** Poll: Shutdown Could Cost GOP Control Of The House

*** CNN Poll: Republicans bear the brunt of shutdown blame

*** Poll: 70 percent disapprove of GOP handling of government shutdown

“Mean People Suck”

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Oct 25, 2013
 
NEWS-FLASH wrote:
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Oops, we made a mistake, bad intel? We apologize? Sorry Mr. Bob, I feel that is just unacceptable. Personally I’m not feelin’ it. Too many lives were snuffed out unnecessarily. What a waste, what a waste. Not to mention the lives of horror that will continue as a result of that decision.
War as been considered a “viable” alternative by our ancestors to settling human dispute and has inflicted widespread destruction and terror on many groups of the past including the groups you have listed, the bed has been made for us and we are forced to lye down in it. Politicians have no other alternative other than to continue this barbaric world bankers past time. Imo.
Who are these 'barbaric world bankers' you speak of?

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Oct 25, 2013
 
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe it'll all blow over, maybe it won't. But when the GOP polls were substantially higher before the shutdown than after the shutdown I think it's worth looking at. Elections can be won or lost on these sorts of things.

*** Poll: Americans not happy about shutdown; more blame GOP- CBS

*** Boehner takes shutdown hit in new CNN poll

*** Oct 21, 2013 · More than half say it's bad for the country the GOP controls the House

*** Oct 22, 2013 · Polls Raise Fear Among GOP That Shutdown Severely Hurt Party

*** Major damage to GOP after shutdown- Washington Post Oct 22, 2013

*** Oct 24, 2013 · After the Shutdown, Republicans Sort Through the Wreckage

*** Poll: Shutdown Could Cost GOP Control Of The House

*** CNN Poll: Republicans bear the brunt of shutdown blame

*** Poll: 70 percent disapprove of GOP handling of government shutdown
Who were polled -

Adult Voters?
Registered Voters?
Eligible Voters?
Likely Voters?

I'm fairly sure that can't be answered easily but it would make a difference.

Gotta love the media!
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NEWS-FLASH wrote:
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I heard yesterday during C-Span's coverage of the Web-Site hearing that the Health Care website crashed only after 2000 or so hits.
hmmmm...
The C team built the website but Sebelius is said to be bringing in the A team now. You'd think for 600+ million dollars we could have had the A team from the get go. 600+ million just doesn't buy what it used to, I guess.
I've been wondering whay Obama hasn't fired her and it then dawned on me that if he fired all the people in his admnistration who screwed up, he'd run the risk of looking incompetent and those fired, would run the risk of looking accountable.

Can't have that.

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Oct 25, 2013
 
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>Who are these 'barbaric world bankers' you speak of?
No last word on my post below?
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T2LK4SO...

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Oct 25, 2013
 
Lyndi wrote:
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The C team built the website but Sebelius is said to be bringing in the A team now. You'd think for 600+ million dollars we could have had the A team from the get go. 600+ million just doesn't buy what it used to, I guess.
I've been wondering whay Obama hasn't fired her and it then dawned on me that if he fired all the people in his admnistration who screwed up, he'd run the risk of looking incompetent and those fired, would run the risk of looking accountable.
Can't have that.
I heard this morning that The Admin. probably won't fire her now, especially while under duress, but in a couple of months it wouldn't be a surprise to learn that she requested to have "more time with her family."
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Oct 25, 2013
 
NEWS-FLASH wrote:
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Who were polled -
Adult Voters?
Registered Voters?
Eligible Voters?
Likely Voters?
I'm fairly sure that can't be answered easily but it would make a difference.
Gotta love the media!
Those were headlines from seperate polls and it doesn't matter who was polled. Perception is reality, the media determines perception and if after the event it's the peoples perception that the GOP was most at fault, then that ship has sailed and it's not coming back. Can't unring the bell.

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Oct 25, 2013
 
NEWS-FLASH wrote:
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No last word on my post below?
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T2LK4SO...
I'm not seeing a post 107777.

776 & 778 were by Chris Clearwater; 777 is missing.

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Oct 25, 2013
 
NEWS-FLASH wrote:
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No last word on my post below?
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T2LK4SO...
Now ... howzabout them 'barbaric world bankers' you speak of?

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