Bush is a hero

Since: Dec 07

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#170869 Oct 25, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
<quoted text>
What I detest is a government that acts like the ruling class, and doesn't listen to the people.
Which country are you speaking about?
Obama got 51.1 percent of the popular vote to Mitt Romney's 47.2 percent, a four point margin. A virtual split when considering the millions who voted. Seems to me that he is listening to the country. I'm guessing in 2016 the spread will be greater and the cries will be louder.

“Help Cecil Help!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#170870 Oct 25, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
<quoted text>
I missed most of that game, and only got to see the first and ninth innings. I suppose I should consider myself fortunate.
I did get to see almost all of Game 2... I probably enjoyed that one a tad more than you did.
I certainly enjoyed last night better'n the night before.

:-)

Sure do wish the Missouri/South Carolina football game was an afternoon event tomorrow, though.
UIdiotRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#170871 Oct 25, 2013
ADD One more thing biddy-eyed bad bob and news flash.

You forgot about not so well known many US smaller wars and Covert wars waged worldwide, that is our corrupted US media beholden to corporatism/Govt controls withhold many info from the public
UIdiotRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#170872 Oct 25, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
<quoted text>
I think our government needs to change. Either that, or we just give up, join the Democrats, and continue to let ourselves become a redistributive nation. It would be nice if some of our Democrat leaning Republicans weren't so anxious to stab fellow Republicans in the back to get re-elected, and do what's best for the country instead.
I'm not ready to give up just yet. We'll see how the chips fall next November, and see what the voters want.
<quoted text>
I missed most of that game, and only got to see the first and ninth innings. I suppose I should consider myself fortunate.
I did get to see almost all of Game 2... I probably enjoyed that one a tad more than you did.
demoncrats and Rebubliecans are not answer, both are corrupted and greed, and the power-seeking had inseminated their bas, its principle and value system gone to Corporatism, what you looking at is secretive collobaration - a bipartisanshop-of-horror agendas ! Wake up times Doofuses! Abahhaahaaaaa

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#170873 Oct 25, 2013
NEWS-FLASH wrote:
<quoted text>
Who will reform it? The rooster is guarding the hen house. Maybe a messiah will rise up from among us!/sarcasm
Not sure.

But the US led the way in getting the UN organized at the SF conference
in 1945, so apparently [we] can call for reform. Also, in 2011, Sec Gen Ban Ki-Moon appointed Atul Khare of India to "spearhead efforts to implement a reform agenda aimed at streamlining and improving the efficiency of the world body." Read more:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reform_of_the_Un...

Other good reads:
https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/schles....
http://globalsolutions.org/united-nations/ref...
UIdiotRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#170874 Oct 25, 2013
bad bob wrote:
<quoted text>
Not sure.
But the US led the way in getting the UN organized at the SF conference
in 1945, so apparently [we] can call for reform. Also, in 2011, Sec Gen Ban Ki-Moon appointed Atul Khare of India to "spearhead efforts to implement a reform agenda aimed at streamlining and improving the efficiency of the world body." Read more:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reform_of_the_Un...
Other good reads:
https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/schles....
http://globalsolutions.org/united-nations/ref...
What you know about India AND Iran with US losing touch with reality? time to test you closet case! abhaahahahaaa
UIdiotRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#170875 Oct 25, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, well, Carter didn't impress me during his campaign, and he lived 'p' to his expectations.
This should impress most of you! Satan = USA , its not me saying this, he really put it up there with rest of the crew give true perspective, good .moral leaders tell trust like never before on where US is heading . BAHAHAHAaaaaaa!

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#170876 Oct 25, 2013
NEWS-FLASH wrote:
<quoted text>
Oops, we made a mistake, bad intel? We apologize? Sorry Mr. Bob, I feel that is just unacceptable. Personally I’m not feelin’ it. Too many lives were snuffed out unnecessarily. What a waste, what a waste. Not to mention the lives of horror that will continue as a result of that decision.
War as been considered a “viable” alternative by our ancestors to settling human dispute and has inflicted widespread destruction and terror on many groups of the past including the groups you have listed, the bed has been made for us and we are forced to lye down in it. Politicians have no other alternative other than to continue this barbaric world bankers past time. Imo.
<possible dupe-1st one disappeared back to the future>.

Gotta agree. But [we] didn't learn of our mistake until we were already there in Iraq.

There we found the truth of Hussein's oppressive regime. One of torture, abuse, and murder. And of his 2 evil sons penchant to rape, torture and murder innocent women and children to satisfy their abyssmal depravity.

GW Bush decided to free millions of Iraqis, to be able to elect and run their own democratic government, and to take part in national elections. You could see the pride these people had in literally risking their lives to go to the polls and vote, many for the 1st time in their lives.(Remember the purple thumbs)?

You said it. "Too many lives were lost unnecessarily". But most of those
murdered were at the hand of ruthless coward insurgents, trying to show the US was guilty party, in order to spread hatred and have all coalition forces ousted. It didn't work, mainly because Iraqis saw who the real villans were
and stood up for the US.

Many innocent people were also murdered by cowards who wanted to ignite another civil war, and blame it on the US. That didn't work either, same reason.

After Mubarak fell in Egypt, other countries like Tunisia, Libya, Yemen, and eventually Syria, began rebelling. They wanted a chance to change their leadership too, and the domino effect was making plenty of hardcore arabs nervous. Iran was VERY nervous, because they'd already come close to a revolution or two, and the mullahs didn't want any part of that.

<sorry, didn't mean to ramble, but these radicals really get on my last nerve.>

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#170877 Oct 25, 2013
UIdiotRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>According to Polls over 70% of our US population detest US Wars and over 179 nations gave US the Big middle fingers because of US militaristic neo-Imperalism agendas. BAhahahaaa
OK if that's true (70%) that's a landslide majority, and there's no more need for you to continue blabbering on. You've accomplished yer little mission, and now it's time for you to move on. You ain't NEVR gonna get a better percentage. Bub bye!

Worthless troll!

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#170878 Oct 25, 2013
UIdiotRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>What you know about India AND Iran with US losing touch with reality? time to test you closet case! abhaahahahaaa
Again, you don't have the English capability to test ANYone about ANYthing.

Go find a neighbor or someone who can speak our language.
HipGnozizzz

Dahinda, IL

#170879 Oct 25, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>No, not Cruz's fault
Sooo, he just really really likes Green Eggs and Ham, so much that he'd rather read that into the Congressional Record then allow discussion on the budget in the 11th hour?
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>and you can't tell me Obama didn't want that so he could say how nasty them republicans are.
Sounds like hindsight myth-making in action to me, but if that's the case, are you sayin' the right honorable Mr. Cruz was so naive and oblivious as to not know the President's arch plan? Cos that is what you're sayin'.....
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>Btw all he had to do was delay the individual mandate uh...six weeks. That would have been a compromise. it'll be more, just watch.
You "know history" so well but you so quickly forget Cruz' stated goal? Clue - it wasn't "delay the individual mandate".
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>Now you tell me who suffered besides the vets who wanted to see the memorials which was so foolish as they are open air and do not require the govt but Obama gave instructions to block 'em.
Oh not much. Just 800,000 federal workers and their families. Just a few thousand servicemen and women waiting for their pre-deployment training. Just a few kids wondering about their cancer treatments. Just silly stuff like that.
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>It IS nothing new. Occurred a couple times before. Not for as long but we've never had a two year old for president before. I'm not the one who is low information, m'dear. I know my history and I know what politicians are up to.
You do? Oh yeah, you "see" deeper than most, according to the resume you dropped off. Well, your history book is different than mine, Ms. Omniscient. The last one lasted almost a week longer in my book.
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>You on the other hand think Obama can do no wrong. I never took you for hero worship.
You didn't? One wonders then why don't you trust your first instinct?

Could it be that you're just petulantly tossing out yet another dismal go-to blanket dismissal phrase that allows you to avoid facts?

I tend to the progressive side of most questions, no secret or shame there. I'm a cynical optimist, if you will, or a hopeful pessimist, if you won't. But if you were really paying attention rather than seeking to reinforce your own predispositions, you'd note that I do NOT want to see a government controlled in the executive AND legislative branches by any single party.

And swashbuckler Cruz and his merry pirates just pushed the barge a long way toward that reef.
HipGnozizzz

Dahinda, IL

#170880 Oct 25, 2013
Chris Clearwater wrote:
<quoted text> Point two this poster and I go back to 07. I'm transparent and have zero respect for the man. It goes back a way and will leave it at that.
No, go ahead, tell it. It's a good'un. I've got nothing to be ashamed of.

Do you?

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Redondo Beach, CA

#170881 Oct 25, 2013
HipGnozizzz wrote:
<quoted text>No, go ahead, tell it. It's a good'un. I've got nothing to be ashamed of.
Do you?
A response to this popped up in my head.

But I decided to abide by the sage advice: Discretion is the better part of valor.

So I'll take the high road; but I'll make note that I'm doing that.

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#170882 Oct 25, 2013
HipGnozizzz wrote:
<quoted text>
Sooo, he just really really likes Green Eggs and Ham, so much that he'd rather read that into the Congressional Record then allow discussion on the budget in the 11th hour?
<quoted text>
Sounds like hindsight myth-making in action to me, but if that's the case, are you sayin' the right honorable Mr. Cruz was so naive and oblivious as to not know the President's arch plan? Cos that is what you're sayin'.....
<quoted text>You "know history" so well but you so quickly forget Cruz' stated goal? Clue - it wasn't "delay the individual mandate".
<quoted text>Oh not much. Just 800,000 federal workers and their families. Just a few thousand servicemen and women waiting for their pre-deployment training. Just a few kids wondering about their cancer treatments. Just silly stuff like that.
<quoted text>You do? Oh yeah, you "see" deeper than most, according to the resume you dropped off. Well, your history book is different than mine, Ms. Omniscient. The last one lasted almost a week longer in my book.
<quoted text>You didn't? One wonders then why don't you trust your first instinct?
Could it be that you're just petulantly tossing out yet another dismal go-to blanket dismissal phrase that allows you to avoid facts?
I tend to the progressive side of most questions, no secret or shame there. I'm a cynical optimist, if you will, or a hopeful pessimist, if you won't. But if you were really paying attention rather than seeking to reinforce your own predispositions, you'd note that I do NOT want to see a government controlled in the executive AND legislative branches by any single party.
And swashbuckler Cruz and his merry pirates just pushed the barge a long way toward that reef.
Silly boy. You present yourself as so well versed but yer not. of course Cruz started with defunding Obamacare. but what most Republicans were looking for was a compromise. I'll never get over the fact that they absolutely Democrats absolutely refused to be on Obamacare, good enough for everyone else, not for them.
Cruz unfortunately didn't change anything except to bring about a little closer scrutiny of Obamacare. That's good. But the power you're giving him, doesn't exist.

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#170883 Oct 25, 2013
Btw Hip if you've never done it this is how bargaining goes.
"I'll give you $500 for that car."
"Are you kidding me that car is worth $4000."
"Well look it's got bad tires and a dent in the side"
"Okay I'll let you have it for $3000."
"No, I saw a car on the lot that was a year newer and had good tires for $2500"
Okay then $2000."
etc etc.
Until each of them gets hardly anything they wanted but each gets just a little something. The first bid is rarely realistic.

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#170884 Oct 25, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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A response to this popped up in my head.
But I decided to abide by the sage advice: Discretion is the better part of valor.
So I'll take the high road; but I'll make note that I'm doing that.
And brag about it for the next five years. Your post alone was not discretionary. Just so you know.

“Help Cecil Help!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#170885 Oct 25, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>Silly boy. You present yourself as so well versed but yer not. of course Cruz started with defunding Obamacare. but what most Republicans were looking for was a compromise. I'll never get over the fact that they absolutely Democrats absolutely refused to be on Obamacare, good enough for everyone else, not for them.
Cruz unfortunately didn't change anything except to bring about a little closer scrutiny of Obamacare. That's good. But the power you're giving him, doesn't exist.
If Lyndi is still wondering why I wished her luck when I saw she was going to try to talk bare bones politics, this ought to clear it up for her.

“Help Cecil Help!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#170886 Oct 25, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>And brag about it for the next five years. Your post alone was not discretionary. Just so you know.
sarcasm

1. harsh or bitter derision or irony.
Lost In Transition

United States

#170887 Oct 25, 2013
HipGnozizzz wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh not much. Just 800,000 federal workers and their families. Just a few thousand servicemen and women waiting for their pre-deployment training. Just a few kids wondering about their cancer treatments. Just silly stuff like that.
The training of our troops was short-sheeted in response to the sequester. According to General Odierno, US Army Chief-of-Staff:
"Due to sequester I may be asked to deploy thousands of soldiers somewhere.... that we have not properly trained them to go... because we simply don't have the dollars and money because of sequestration."
Funny thing is (or not so funny), since sequestration 1.2 $billion$ has been earmarked for facility expansion and military operations in North Africa. We are paying to ramp up offensively oriented operations in yet another theater, while claiming we don't have the money to train the very kids we'll throw into that mess, or even the operations we're already committed to. You really gotta start to wonder who the hell is deciding what we can, and can't, do without.



“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#170888 Oct 25, 2013
lisw wrote:
Btw Hip if you've never done it this is how bargaining goes.
"I'll give you $500 for that car."
"Are you kidding me that car is worth $4000."
"Well look it's got bad tires and a dent in the side"
"Okay I'll let you have it for $3000."
"No, I saw a car on the lot that was a year newer and had good tires for $2500"
Okay then $2000."
etc etc.
Until each of them gets hardly anything they wanted but each gets just a little something. The first bid is rarely realistic.
Obama compromised the ACA all the way from single-payer, to insurance company bonanza, guaranteeing that the insurance companies not only stayed in business, but continued to grow...and yet, if you think anybody got what they wanted, given that now they have to spend a minimum of 80% of premiums on actual HEALTH CARE, instead of CEO salaries, you're not paying attention to the reality. ACA as passed is a HUGE compromise, and worked out EXACTLY the way you describe above.

(More irony)

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