Bush is a hero

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#170240 Oct 16, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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No comment.
Mother Lyndi has decreed that religion should be discussed in the proper threads.
Worthless troll!

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#170241 Oct 16, 2013
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>It means I'm 'sick' of people who beat their chests with 'love for Christ', only to be appalled when the law of the land requires them to do what he preached we all should.
Take care of those around us.
That's what Jesus DID. Regardless of the law.
(Innit?)
Hah! I'm SICK of you 3 trolls too, but so what.

Since: Sep 10

Redondo Beach, CA

#170242 Oct 16, 2013
bad bob wrote:
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Worthless troll!
Hey, what's your take on the deal reached today in Congress?

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#170243 Oct 16, 2013
NEWS-FLASH wrote:
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Jesus was non-political.
And...I'm with ya on the hypocrisy thingy!
:)
The non-political nature of the Lord, would seem to me a very good reason to keep his name out of politics....especially when it is used to justify acting in direct opposition to the values he held.

JMO

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#170244 Oct 16, 2013
It's a bad day for baseball... unless Boston can magically come up with seven or more runs.

The Cards may have lost today, but I don't think the Dodgers have a prayer of taking two games from the Cardinals, not in St. Louis.

Watching baseball tonight is depressing, maybe I can find some station playing 'Heidi'.

“Help Cecil Help!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#170245 Oct 16, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
It's a bad day for baseball... unless Boston can magically come up with seven or more runs.
The Cards may have lost today, but I don't think the Dodgers have a prayer of taking two games from the Cardinals, not in St. Louis.
Watching baseball tonight is depressing, maybe I can find some station playing 'Heidi'.
That would only be appropriate if the station you were watching cut to Heidi at the end of the 8th and the home team scored 10 runs in the bottom of the 9th.

If you know what I'm talking about - you're old.

;-)
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#170246 Oct 16, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
It's a bad day for baseball... unless Boston can magically come up with seven or more runs.
The Cards may have lost today, but I don't think the Dodgers have a prayer of taking two games from the Cardinals, not in St. Louis.
Watching baseball tonight is depressing, maybe I can find some station playing 'Heidi'.
Here you go, bobin. This will entertain you for a couple of minutes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup...

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#170247 Oct 16, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>That would only be appropriate if the station you were watching cut to Heidi at the end of the 8th and the home team scored 10 runs in the bottom of the 9th.
If you know what I'm talking about - you're old.
;-)
The Heidi Bowl... why the networks never cut away from the end of football games, unless they're going to another football game.

You're right, I'm old. I think I'm older than you, and probably everyone else here too.

I'd quit watching this ball game and see what's happening in politics... but that's even worse.
:(

The Tea Party shall rise again!
HipGnozizzz

Dahinda, IL

#170248 Oct 16, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>That would only be appropriate if the station you were watching cut to Heidi at the end of the 8th and the home team scored 10 runs in the bottom of the 9th.
If you know what I'm talking about - you're old.
;-)
Go Jets.
HipGnozizzz

Dahinda, IL

#170249 Oct 16, 2013
I've been a history buff and politics junkie for, well jeez, since I was a paper boy during the last throes of the Johnson era.....

.....and I cannot put my finger on a more bewildering spectacle than the last two weeks. I hate to over-simplify but it looks to me like the economy, 800,000 employees and their families, and the nation itself, all suffered.....

....just to raise the profile of one upstart junior senator with an eye on 2016.

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#170250 Oct 16, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Hey, what's your take on the deal reached today in Congress?
My take? Hmmmmm, well now lemmee see.
UMMM, ok, GOT IT! Ya ready? Got yer fav beverage?

Yer back door attempt to engage me in civil dialogue just failed.
If you've been reading the posts for the last couple weeks, you'd already have a good idea of what my "take" is, regardless of when
this deal was brokered.

But more important is that you will hafta lay down a track record
of civil exchanges from various posters in here (besides me & Global Idiot) over the next few weeks, to prove that you really aren't a worthless troll.

I'm betting you not only can't do it, but have NO interest in even trying. Therefore yer status quo will likely prevail.

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#170251 Oct 16, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
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You're right, I'm old. I think I'm older than you, and probably everyone else here too.
IIRC you said you were in yer mid to late 50's? W is about 61, I'm 66.
HipGnozizzz

Dahinda, IL

#170252 Oct 16, 2013
Rider on the Storm wrote:
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Then you must be very comfortable in your living situation or retirement. For the average person its going to create a hardship to come up with 4 grand for insurance. And not many people are going to want to work 3 jobs to barely survive.
I said what I said to Lust because I doubt very much she has to come up with the extra cash or she would understand there may be other reasons why folks object to it. My seceretary never mentioned the thought about helping others out, her concern was how in the hell can I pay for it!!! Lust and her husband probably gets it through an employer. So what does it cost her? Nothing really. Or at least nothing she can see at the moment.
Anyone whose paying their own HI though will see it immediately and it will be a hardship on alot if not most all of them.
You're talking about $166/mo. I pay more than that now, and coverage has been eroding over the years, loooong before the ACA was a twinkle in the President's eye. One of the goofiest things to come out of this debate is the notion that insurance companies were some kind of benefactor of health prior to the reforms.

What you don't share is, what plan did she have? Is the new plan better coverage? Does she have alternatives, esp. now that the exchanges have begun? You say she works three jobs - this would seem to indicate that she would easily qualify for subsidies under the ACA?

As Ms. Lust mentioned, the best reform would have been a single-payer system - an expanded Medicare, if you will. But the keening wails of "socialism" were much too loud in this benighted nation, and so the >individual mandate< and >insurance exchanges< were inserted at the behest of Republicans as the next best thing - well, the only thing we were going to get.

Of course as soon as it passed, they began campaigning against it. That's called trying to have your cake and eat it too. Long story short - that strategy always leaves an empty feeling, spiritually AND materially, something like the feeling the Republican caucus has about now. It's a strategy that peaked in 2010, and has been slo-o-owly slipping away ever since. The Center is not as stup.....er, "uninformed" as the losers would have us think.

For those who just woke up the last few years, the nation has been clamoring for healthcare reform for >decades<. Politicians have heard that, in the polls, and have been TALKING about it for decades, since at least Nixon, in my memory, probably before. After 50 years, Obama finally pushed it beyond the talking stage. His original plan was single-payer, or barring that, a public option. If you don't like the Frankenstein that the ACA became, you have a bipartisan committee to thank for that, NOT the President.

Oh! so I'm defending the President yet again? Hardly. His 1st-term wishy-washy style and naivete led directly to a muddled message and lack of fight for his own vision. I believe he's learned on the job, as we've seen the last two weeks, but too late for real people-oriented reform in health-care. The best we can say is it's a start, a jumping off point for future real reforms, further along then we were for the last five decades of nothing but campaign talk.

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#170253 Oct 17, 2013
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>The non-political nature of the Lord, would seem to me a very good reason to keep his name out of politics....especially when it is used to justify acting in direct opposition to the values he held.
JMO
Agreed!
Gotta love human behavior!/sarcasm

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#170254 Oct 17, 2013
HipGnozizzz wrote:
<quoted text>As Ms. Lust mentioned, the best reform would have been a single-payer system - an expanded Medicare, if you will. But the keening wails of "socialism" were much too loud in this benighted nation, and so the >individual mandate< and >insurance exchanges< were inserted at the behest of Republicans as the next best thing - well, the only thing we were going to get.
Single-payer was a rouse, never intended to pass.
IMO

Do you play chess sir?
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#170255 Oct 17, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
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1) Haven't you heard, obamacare is the law, passed by majorities in both Houses of Congress, signed into law by the POTUS, and deemed Constitutional by the SCOTUS.

2) Now my goal is getting rid of the 25 Republicant-lites that couldn't be counted on when the chips were down, one of which is my senior Senator, and up for re-election in 2014.
1) Maybe you haven't heard. Bad laws can be repealed in this country and bad laws with good ideas behind them can be revised and rewritten. Pretty neat, huh?

2) Good for you. Maybe you should vote far left liberal to 'show them' and cut your nose off to spite your face while you're at it. And why in the world would you "count on" 25 republicans who flat out told you, "don't count on us." 'Splain that one.

Here's my cartoon version of your shutdown excercise.

Ted Cruz holds hands with his little buddies and on a count of 3 they all jump off a high rise. On the way down they see senate republicans staring out the windows at them in horror as they pass by and the Tea Partiers yell out, "Hey, ya wanna come along?" They pass 25 floors and not one senate republican jumps out the window to join them. Cruz & his happy Tea Partiers finally hit the pavement, do a big (((splat))) and wind up in the hospital suffering from various injuries. While in the hospital, they get really mad at the republicans who wouldn't jump with them and they vow to get even.
Oh and the bill for your little stunt? 24 billion dollars paid for by the Amrican taxpayer. Pyrrhic victories aren't as cheap as they used to be.

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#170256 Oct 17, 2013
bad bob wrote:
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IIRC you said you were in yer mid to late 50's? W is about 61, I'm 66.
67 in less than two weeks.

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#170257 Oct 17, 2013
NEWS-FLASH wrote:
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Jesus is a Democrat.
Voted Obama, praying for immigration reform and a loan for some new lawn equipment. Seriously, he told me, just after I paid him for cutting the lawn
You may have never heard of Greg Collett. He is a twice failed Tea Party candidate for the Idaho state legislature. He is a software engineer who has ten home schooled children. Greg Collett is like many Americans in that he wants what he thinks is best for his family. Recently, he has become the latest poster boy for right wing hypocrisy regarding health care.

On his campaign website Greg Collett identifies himself as the second oldest of eight children. His father worked for the U.S. Forest Service. He describes his political philosophy and experience as follows:

"Although I have not yet held an elected position in government, I am well versed in the working of government and the proper role it should play.…I have had the opportunity to teach many people about advanced constitutional concepts, explain the challenges we face as a nation and state, break down complex problems, and demonstrate how the sole purpose of government should be to secure our individual, God-given rights."

Collett is also identified in an NBC News story from October 1, as someone who is opposed to Obamacare. He told reporter Maggie Fox

"I don’t think that the government should be involved in health care or health insurance."

Greg Collett’s ten children are all on Medicaid.

Greg Collett explains why he is ok with his children receiving Medicaid

To his credit, Greg Collett doesn’t mince words. He says

"Yes, I participate in government programs which I adamantly oppose. Many of them, actually."

He then proceeds to list the programs, which range from marriage licenses to government ownership of land. One of the programs he singles out is the foster care program. Seven of his ten children were adopted through the foster care system, which, he explains, is why they receive Medicaid. The others, he says,“qualify based on the financial rules.”

Collett sums up his attitude towards Medicaid as follows:

"For those of you who insist that I take my kids off Medicaid, please feel free to get them off by terminating the entire program. I would be the most thrilled if that were to happen since, as with all public welfare programs, it should not exist."

Can't make this stuff up....
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/10/16/greg-...

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#170258 Oct 17, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
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67 in less than two weeks.
Senile old fart!
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#170259 Oct 17, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
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The Tea Party shall rise again!
Eek- Would you like a confederate flag to go along with that slogan?

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