“Pillars of Creation....”

Since: Jan 11

Into this world we're thrown

#170004 Oct 14, 2013
lisw wrote:
At least Shovelhead didn't suck up to everyone.
There is no doubt in my mind that SKL is Shovelhead. She has said she is living in CA. But she let it slip a couple months ago she is actually in OK. That just happens to be where Shovel lives.

That and numerous other things that have given her away. I really dont know why she keeps up with the game..........

“Mean People Suck”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#170005 Oct 14, 2013
lisw wrote:
It seems to me that it is the habit here to go after the more gentle of posters. In Chris many of you don't even know why you go after him except for the fact that you 1) think it will make you popular a la sister Kat 2) he happens to be a christian and that just makes you feel all icky like Catcher or you think he's mostly about pro life (which by the way he has not expressed at all in here) like Lyndi. Others just think he's not as smart as them.
(Sorry Chris to talk about you in the third person, but I hope you know they all have different rather childish reasons for what they do rather than a real reason to attack your ideology)
Let me ask you a question.

Say you had a client in your practice who compulsively assigned either an untoward motive or a character defect to just about everyone they disagreed with. How would you treat that?
Lost In Transition

United States

#170006 Oct 14, 2013
Aetna (AET)'s CEO gave a harshly critical review of the federal government's Obamacare marketplace Tuesday, saying "there's so much wrong, you just don't know what all is broken until you get a lot more of it fixed."
Bertolini said his fears have been realized, and the technological debacle seen at Healthcare.gov is one similar to only a handful he's witnessed in his career.
"It's nothing you ever like to repeat," he said. "Because it's very difficult. I've been there. It's career-ending in a lot of cases."
Asked how long the marketplace, also known as an exchange, will take to fix, Bertolini said, "That's a big question, but I think the bigger issue is: Will enough people even sign up to make it work?"
Asked if he would have delayed the launch of the exchange given its earlier problems, Bertolini said, "I would have, if I'd been in their seat. It appears politics trumped wise business decisions".

Politics trumped wise decision? Say it isn't so, Joe. Looks like a $billion$ tax-payer dollars extracted from an army of part-time workers just doesn't buy what it used to. Nothing to worry about, though. We'll just bump it up to a $trillion$, that will fix everything.
Honest.
Lost In Transition

United States

#170007 Oct 14, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>Let me ask you a question.
Say you had a client in your practice who compulsively assigned either an untoward motive or a character defect to just about everyone they disagreed with. How would you treat that?
I'd elect them president.
UidiotRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#170008 Oct 14, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
Being Christian, he probably has more than one prayer at his disposal and last I knew he still has the freedom to his religious beliefs in this country. How about you keep your persecution of Christians on the religious forums and back the hell off Chris's beliefs on this one.
Interjecting where Catcher left off. Do tell about , if you and your right wingers, if you not afraid to discuss the extremely sensitive and controversial issue that rarely conversed in America, the inherent dangers of what the US religious xtain Fundies right wing coalition agendas that infiltrated our US military/govt an interrelations with nationalism... and what can do to our US and world with its idealogy and war machines?
BHAHHAHAHAHHAaaa Dare to discuss it or you afraid of the Gestapo!
Not a religious nor political and not a commie!

“Mean People Suck”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#170009 Oct 14, 2013
Lost In Transition wrote:
<quoted text>
I'd elect them president.
I wouldn't doubt that
UidiotRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#170010 Oct 14, 2013
Lost In Transition wrote:
Aetna (AET)'s CEO gave a harshly critical review of the federal government's Obamacare marketplace Tuesday, saying "there's so much wrong, you just don't know what all is broken until you get a lot more of it fixed."
Bertolini said his fears have been realized, and the technological debacle seen at Healthcare.gov is one similar to only a handful he's witnessed in his career.
"It's nothing you ever like to repeat," he said. "Because it's very difficult. I've been there. It's career-ending in a lot of cases."
Asked how long the marketplace, also known as an exchange, will take to fix, Bertolini said, "That's a big question, but I think the bigger issue is: Will enough people even sign up to make it work?"
Asked if he would have delayed the launch of the exchange given its earlier problems, Bertolini said, "I would have, if I'd been in their seat. It appears politics trumped wise business decisions".
Politics trumped wise decision? Say it isn't so, Joe. Looks like a $billion$ tax-payer dollars extracted from an army of part-time workers just doesn't buy what it used to. Nothing to worry about, though. We'll just bump it up to a $trillion$, that will fix everything.
Honest.
Expensive For Profit healthcare system vs ACA, your pick ! The already-poor and majority Middle Class will soon be the New Pauper Class will soon have no choice but to accept what govt/lobbyist and for profit system pan out to masses of working class? Yes, No, Maybe, I don't know, i don't care, who cares...i'm be Sheeople?

BWHAHHAHAHaaaa
UidiotRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#170011 Oct 14, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
I refuse to engage in a pro choice/pro life debate on this forum, lis out of respect to the primary topic of the forum because I know how fast a forum can deteriorate but having said that, I can still insist that one cannot claim outrage against people who "know better" and be pro life.
The pro life movement is comprised ONLY of people who "know better" than the individual girl or woman who is pregnant and that is indisputable. WHY they think they know better... for example your belief that with responsibility comes freedom, is irrelevant to my point.
I absolutely defend anyones right to be pro life and would fight to protect that right but they don't get to be sick of people who know better and then claim to know better at the same time.
It doesn't work that way.
Another more sensitive issue then what you talking about and its an extremely highly controversial issue that most you will denied it ever exist , and is rarely come up in a discussion, why ? Those are the US Malthusian Castrophe , and the ugly US Planned Parenthood, and the US genocidal Wars worldwide ,... do tell? Why not talk about it, did Gestapo got you lowly tongues? Is our US not a Democracy in action? You hypocritical bunch of fanatical American right wingers war mongers are cause of the many big mess, we all are seeing today at home and worldwide, the many wars waged by your group of grunters... Shame on you for bringing misery to the US and to the world. Wake up time
I not a leftie nor a rightie! MWBbabbaabababaa
UidiotRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#170012 Oct 14, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>I wouldn't doubt that
Mr Doubtfire? BAHAhhahaa
lisw

Georgetown, OH

#170013 Oct 14, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>Let me ask you a question.
Say you had a client in your practice who compulsively assigned either an untoward motive or a character defect to just about everyone they disagreed with. How would you treat that?
As you've so astutely observed, I am no clinician here and on a personal level I find Chris to be emotional but sincere. It's all in what you find tolerable in another person. As a person, not a clinician I feel I see deeper into people than some do. For example I always saw Fearless as "crusty", due to age and experience, not mean. How you view these people is totally up to you. I do not see Chris assigning defects to anyone, that is your territory.

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#170014 Oct 14, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>I'm theoretically supporting a division within my Party only if you take the concept of party and faction to the extreme and keep everything completely in the abstract.
The fact of the matter is that you are dividing it, reshaping it would also fit. Nothing abstract about that.
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text> Practically speaking, you can't compare blue dogs with the tea party, not now - and probably not for decades.
For grins I googled the key words,“blue dogs and the tea party” Seems as though there is quite the number of those who don’t share your perspective. To be fair, there are some who do.

Who’s right?
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>You could argue that the intent of Jefferson's Democratic-Republicans and Adams' Federalists was to "divide the Nation and force through legislation to control the losers". To put how sustainable that is into perspective, 212 years elapsed between that election and the last.
Agreed, the process is the same however, at present, the Nation is mathematically divided, give or take a small percentage of polling error and no longer selfless.

We have reached an “American Standoff.”

Surely you don’t think The United States will stand as THE world power indefinitely do you?

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#170015 Oct 14, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>Well, actually, a great many of the things described in Lies have been incorporated into school curriculum, not without objections.

Can you be a little more specific about the "overwhelming disruptions of truths" you have in mind?
Did you want me to post the table of contents of each book?
HipGnozizzz

Altona, IL

#170016 Oct 14, 2013
lisw wrote:
It seems to me that it is the habit here to go after the more gentle of posters. In Chris many of you don't even know why you go after him except for the fact that you 1) think it will make you popular a la sister Kat 2) he happens to be a christian and that just makes you feel all icky like Catcher or you think he's mostly about pro life (which by the way he has not expressed at all in here) like Lyndi. Others just think he's not as smart as them.
(Sorry Chris to talk about you in the third person, but I hope you know they all have different rather childish reasons for what they do rather than a real reason to attack your ideology)
Yeah, that's it. Stroke the poor lil critter. We can dismiss any and all topical rebuttal by just saying "Aw, they just don't like....". Whoosh! And it's magically whisked away! It can't be because his positions on topics of public policy are incoherent, hypocritical, paranoid, sanctimonious, peevish, self-absorbed, or nuttin like dat dere.

He is consistent tho.....
lisw

Georgetown, OH

#170017 Oct 14, 2013
HipGnozizzz wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, that's it. Stroke the poor lil critter. We can dismiss any and all topical rebuttal by just saying "Aw, they just don't like....". Whoosh! And it's magically whisked away! It can't be because his positions on topics of public policy are incoherent, hypocritical, paranoid, sanctimonious, peevish, self-absorbed, or nuttin like dat dere.
He is consistent tho.....
why must you be such a bully?
HipGnozizzz

Altona, IL

#170018 Oct 14, 2013
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
Jesus Christ filed a lawsuit today in the New York Supreme Court against the Republican National Committee for what he is calling “egregious misrepresentation of his statements and image.”
One of the attorneys representing Christ had this to say:
“For years Republicans have proclaimed their love for and loyalty to Jesus, yet their actions are highly contradictory to what Mr. Christ preached. Instead of helping the poor and the sick GOP instead punishes the poor and the sickly.
Our client simply wants the Republican Party to stop using his name, when their actions contradict everything he stood for.
If the GOP would like to continue using his name, Mr. Christ is fine with that, as long as they adhere to the rules: they will have to start making a significant effort to help the poor and the sick, instead of the rich, and start promoting a more peaceful agenda.”
When asked about the lawsuit, House Speaker John Boehner made the following remarks:
“Mr. Christ is entitled to his opinion, however the GOP believes that the underlying message in the Bible is that giving tax cuts to the wealthy is the true path to happiness.
I don’t know where Mr. Christ thinks the Bible says to help the poor and the sick, but that sounds awfully socialistic to me, and we are not a socialist country.”
I had an otherwise very intelligent poster respond once that "those Biblical social paradigms just wouldn't work in modern society."

I said it sounds to me like if it weren't for the salvation aspect (ie, "what's in it for me?") fundamentalist evangelicals would kick ol' Yeshua to the curb as just another dusty ol' philosopher.

Poster agreed without prejudice.

That was probably one of the most eye-opening dialogues I've ever had in topix.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#170019 Oct 14, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>As you've so astutely observed, I am no clinician here and on a personal level I find Chris to be emotional but sincere. It's all in what you find tolerable in another person. As a person, not a clinician I feel I see deeper into people than some do. For example I always saw Fearless as "crusty", due to age and experience, not mean. How you view these people is totally up to you. I do not see Chris assigning defects to anyone, that is your territory.
I see some dysfunction in the (thread) family.
UidiotRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#170020 Oct 14, 2013
NEWS-FLASH wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you want me to post the table of contents of each book?
If WWW don't want to! I do, post away... a few or as much as you like? ;)
HipGnozizzz

Altona, IL

#170021 Oct 14, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>why must you be such a bully?
why can't you keep from personalizing each and every discussion when it turns south for you? I'll bet you don't even realize it.....
HipGnozizzz

Altona, IL

#170022 Oct 14, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>As you've so astutely observed, I am no clinician here and on a personal level I find Chris to be emotional but sincere. It's all in what you find tolerable in another person. As a person, not a clinician I feel I see deeper into people than some do. For example I always saw Fearless as "crusty", due to age and experience, not mean. How you view these people is totally up to you. I do not see Chris assigning defects to anyone, that is your territory.
So, in your eyes, Chris bailing out of a political discussion with a haughty, "You serve your father Satan," is not "assigning a defect"?

I think it's been amply demonstrated over the years that you certainly express "tolerance" for misanthropes, but it's generally reserved for those in ideological alignment.
UidiotRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#170023 Oct 14, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>why must you be such a bully?
what wrong with Hip dong a reverse Bullying for all the many bullying of the handicap of society... You know Sis LISW you do not want to admit that you stand up for the real bullies... do tell? iGNORANCE IS bLISS FoR YOU KIND! Caught you in heat of the moment! BAHHAHahahahahaha

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