Bush is a hero
HipGnozizzz

Dahinda, IL

#169447 Oct 3, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
<quoted text>We lost the last election because a huge number of the base didn't show up.
Republican participation was down 1.2% from 2008.

Hmm. That ain't much, but considering there were 8 million or so new eligible voters, then yes, that over-simplification might hold water....

...if it weren't more than offset by a Democrat reduction of 4.2% over the same period.

4.2%. Almost 4 times as many Democrats stayed home, which more than cancels out your gratuitous bit of denial.

And President Obama still won by a considerable margin.

As long as you all keep stroking each other with fairy-tales rather than face reality, the Republican Party will continue to struggle on the national stage.

You might think I'm fine with that. I'm not. I believe in the give and take inherent in a healthy democracy, and it doesn't work when one side is self-crippled, and willfully ignorant, reduced to circulating in-house fairy tales and lies to "explain" why they're Victims.

I heartily wish to see the Republican Party do some serious soul-searching, and change their course away from base-pandering to a return to representing the broader views of all conservative-leaning moderates, which - newsflash - happen to be the majority. Right-wing media have discouraged participation in the national democratic process, which BY DEFINITION, includes debate, compromise, and acceptance of majority decision. There have been any number of Republicans stepped forward to lead the party out of their self-imposed wilderness, but the "base" either yawns them away or tears each other down before they even reach the partisan opponent portion of the game.
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#169448 Oct 3, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
<quoted text>
Why don't you start by supporting abortion on demand... is there any middle ground there?
How about going along with amnesty while maintaining&#8206; open borders... is there any middle ground there?
How about giving up our Christian beliefs, symbols and celebrations... is there any middle ground there?
How about ditching Capitalism, and switch to Socialism and pure wealth re-distribution... is there any middle ground there?
How about giving up our Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms, except shotguns... is there any middle ground there?
Actually, how about if we just give up most of our Constitutional rights... is there any middle ground there?
NOPE I would say you ignorant , try Corporatism not socialism .
HipGnozizzz

Dahinda, IL

#169449 Oct 3, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
<quoted text>
Except maybe those kids whose cancer treatment at NIH Harry Reid Reid is blocking.
There are something like 800,000 employees and their families doing without a paycheck due to the Republican Gov't Shutdown. No doubt a few of them have children suffering from illness - just 1% would be 8000 kids. There are 40 million Americans without insurance. A few of them also are undoubtedly sick children, but not able to get adequate care due to inability to pay. Just 0.5% would be 200,000 sick kids.

But these aren't enough to draw this media's ire - instead they answer the Republican bell like Pavlov's dog as they exploit children with cancer, with the ultimate goal of keeping other children with cancer from getting insurance under the ACA.

It would be laughable to watch this cabal within the party decry the gov't shutdown, if it weren't such blatant dissemblance. Some of these people have been slathering for a shutdown since before the 2010 election, not by implication or inference but openly and forcefully in press conferences and speeches. Just ask and we together can find example after example.

What's even more grotesquely funny is how they skip both sides of the fence as it suits them. For years now we've been hearing how life would be so much better if government got out of our lives, right? But now here they are saying, "Shutdown? No big deal - most people won't even notice." So which is it - gross intrusion, or no noticeable effect?

OK, so message discipline ain't their strongest suit. But then it doesn't have to be when the show plays exclusively to the "base".

You know there are Republicans, in less secure districts then these "courageous warriors", just wishing to bolt if only Boehner would call the CR to a vote. Why won't he?

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#169450 Oct 3, 2013
Clementia wrote:
<quoted text>
Where? Where did u answer? I was waiting for u to answer coz i thought we were polite to each other last time, but i didn't see anything so i asked Lyndi.
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T2LK4SO...
Clementia wrote:
But we do it here in England! Guess what? We pay high taxes, so why don't u guys increase taxes??
I suppose we could raise more taxes. Almost half our folks aren't paying any income tax, I suppose they could kick some in... especially since they would also be the ones getting subsidized health insurance.
Clementia wrote:
Surely that would be better than what Obama is trying to do. Somehow, i just don't think this Obamacare is gonna be good for the American people in the long run.
That makes two of us.
Clementia wrote:
You guys do have the money but u spend it all on f*ckin' stupid wars! Your government got itself, i mean U, the American people, into this mess and it's diggin' u deeper!
You would have to take that up with our Nobel Peace Prize winner, hussein obama. We don't make war policy, that's our ruling class that makes those decisions... lately, it's hussein obama making those decisions on his own.

The people pay for them and fight them, it's our 'king' that starts them... I guess that's what got him the Nobel Peace Prize.

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#169451 Oct 3, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>The 'electors'?
The votes cast by the Electoral College... the Constitutional method that's used to elect the President.
HipGnozizzz

Dahinda, IL

#169452 Oct 3, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
<quoted text>You would have to take that up with our Nobel Peace Prize winner, hussein obama. We don't make war policy, that's our ruling class that makes those decisions... lately, it's hussein obama making those decisions on his own.

The people pay for them and fight them, it's our 'king' that starts them... I guess that's what got him the Nobel Peace Prize.
There's another perfect example. Those "information purveyors" like yourself are contemptuous of the intelligence of your audience, while misdirecting any attention from your blatant untruths by sneering at those who reject your propoganda as "low information voters". Nobody wants to be that, so between playing on that and fear of going against one's chosen crowd, you got it made, Shady.

In this case tho' I'm bettin' Clem knows who "started them" and who's been trying to finish them.....

“Help Cecil Help!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#169453 Oct 3, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
<quoted text>
The votes cast by the Electoral College... the Constitutional method that's used to elect the President.
Uhhhh ...

I kinda figured that would be your plan in three years - oddly enough that's the Democratic plan too - but I sorta thought we were talking about your "warrior class" overturning the health care bill through this budget impasse.

“Help Cecil Help!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#169454 Oct 3, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
<quoted text>
The votes cast by the Electoral College... the Constitutional method that's used to elect the President.
Well, gee ... here I thought we were talking about your new 'warrior class' eliminating 'Obamacare' with this budget impasse.

Great plan for three years from now, though .... I'm betting the Democrats are going to copy it now that you've made it public, though.

“Help Cecil Help!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#169455 Oct 3, 2013
Sorry about the dupe ... Topix got me.
Lost In Transition

United States

#169456 Oct 3, 2013
HipGnozizzz wrote:
<quoted text>Looks to me like the author is mixing his metaphors here, bemoaning the loss of open borders and equating that to over-regulation of the economy. In any case, in the 60's, "rogue tourists" hadn't yet used our freedoms to enter the country, receive flight training, take weapons on to a plane, hijack them and fly them into buildings crammed with innocent people, all without breaking a single gov't regulation, at least up to the hijacking and flying into buildings part.
I read it a little differently. I saw a foreigner that visited an old freind, and couldn't help but notice how hard the years had been on him. In body and spirit. And a possible explanation for some of those changes. You give the government an inch, and they'll take a foot. It's the nature of the beast, and has been throughout history. 2001 just gave them several inches, and their response was completely predictable.
Lost In Transition

United States

#169457 Oct 3, 2013
THE DRIFTER wrote:
<quoted text>
So many questions,...so little time.
And the band plays on,...
Hey, Drifter. It's been a while.
How's the family doing?
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#169458 Oct 3, 2013
Lost In Transition wrote:
<quoted text>
I read it a little differently. I saw a foreigner that visited an old freind, and couldn't help but notice how hard the years had been on him. In body and spirit. And a possible explanation for some of those changes. You give the government an inch, and they'll take a foot. It's the nature of the beast, and has been throughout history. 2001 just gave them several inches, and their response was completely predictable.
lol! History had shown never about world masses , those in power rarely will give up their rein for the people of the world to make decisions for a nation it depends on the leaders for good of bad, as long they give us some freedom and let us prosper and for world stability is better then not thing .

Common sense from'
Governments Exist to Further the Interests of "Favored Groups"
"We the People" are Never the Favored Group
by Prof. John Kozy
www.globalresearch.ca , July 13, 2012
Lost In Transition

United States

#169459 Oct 3, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
Sorry about the dupe ... Topix got me.
Don't worry about it.
Topix has a vested interest in dupes.
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#169460 Oct 3, 2013
Lost In Transition wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't worry about it.
Topix has a vested interest in dupes.
Topix vested interest as gathering intel machine autobot, do you believe?
Lost In Transition

United States

#169461 Oct 3, 2013
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>
Topix vested interest as gathering intel machine autobot, do you believe?
Who knows anymore. My guess, they're in it for the money with all the damn adds they run.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Redondo Beach, CA

#169462 Oct 3, 2013
Lost In Transition wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't worry about it.
Topix has a vested interest in dupes.
I have thought about that.

What do they get from me?
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#169463 Oct 3, 2013
Lost In Transition wrote:
<quoted text>
Who knows anymore. My guess, they're in it for the money with all the damn adds they run.
must more than that ads... Gestapo !
HipGnozizzz

Dahinda, IL

#169464 Oct 3, 2013
Lost In Transition wrote:
<quoted text>
I read it a little differently. I saw a foreigner that visited an old freind, and couldn't help but notice how hard the years had been on him. In body and spirit. And a possible explanation for some of those changes. You give the government an inch, and they'll take a foot. It's the nature of the beast, and has been throughout history. 2001 just gave them several inches, and their response was completely predictable.
I 'spose yer right. It seems bin Laden predicted the response to a T, with bonuses.

“Help Cecil Help!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#169465 Oct 3, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I have thought about that.
What do they get from me?
Every time a page is viewed ads are displayed, and advertisers pay a certain amount for x number of impressions.
Lost In Transition

United States

#169466 Oct 3, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
Voting in far left liberal democrats in Detroit for the last 50 years and wondering why it's gone bankrupt.
Ever see The Truman Show? Detroit played Carrey's part, but nobody watched.
It was a flop.

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