Bush is a hero
Jenny Bigmouth

Tulsa, OK

#169295 Sep 30, 2013
Cali knows how to party wrote:
<quoted text>Better call the secret service instead of wasting time on topix.
The Secret Service can read.

Larry Elliot Klayman is an American attorney and activist. He is known as the founder and the former chairman of Judicial Watch, and Freedom watch; and whose bio states he "...is known for his strong public interest advocacy in furtherance of ethics in government and individual freedoms and liberties." Apparently, he takes exception to American Muslim citizens , exercising their individual freedoms and liberties and gathering in protest. His 'call to action' seems to proclaim those freedoms and liberties as the sole province of American Christian citizens.

Unlike the scatterbrained, and mostly ineffective, original 'Occupy' movement, Larry Klayman's branch of the Tea Party movement has a tight focus on their goals, which would seem to include institutionalizing the disenfranchisement, harassment, and persecution of Muslims. Just thought all the folks here who are concerned with religious freedom, might find his outlook interesting.

Of course, I could be mistaken....

“Pillars of Creation....”

Since: Jan 11

Into this world we're thrown

#169296 Sep 30, 2013
Roberta G wrote:
<quoted text>
Excellent post, Larry :) Your hunt & peck finger may have paid the price, but it was worth the pain ;)
Sorry Roberta, but Larry just dont make posts like that.... That was LIT. Just wanna make sure the credit gets to where its due.
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#169297 Sep 30, 2013
We really need more women in Congress. About 3 tmes as many. I have never seen so many men yak, yak, yakking and getting so little accomplished in my LIFE as with this bunch.
Even Obama, for God's sake never shuts-up. Takes him 22 minutes to say the word "no."

"If you want something said, ask a man; if you want something done, ask a woman."
M. Thatcher

Bingo.
UidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#169298 Sep 30, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
We really need more women in Congress. About 3 tmes as many. I have never seen so many men yak, yak, yakking and getting so little accomplished in my LIFE as with this bunch.
Even Obama, for God's sake never shuts-up. Takes him 22 minutes to say the word "no."
"If you want something said, ask a man; if you want something done, ask a woman."
M. Thatcher
Bingo.
It will be nice, let hope it's none of authoritarians with Alpha traits or pyschopathic personality like Condi, Pelosi, hillary, bloody mary... BWHhahahahahahhaa
UidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#169299 Sep 30, 2013
UIDIOTMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>A sensitive issue that very few afraid to take on, why is that?
Lets begin to understand!
Former US Lieutenant Colonel Robert Bowman (October 2, 1998) commented in the National Catholic Reporter:
"
We are not hated because we practice democracy, value freedom, or uphold human rights. We are hated because our government denies these things to people in Third World countries whose resources are coveted by our multinational corporations. That hatred we have sown has come back to haunt us in the form of terrorism ... Instead of sending our sons and daughters around the world to kill Arabs so we can have the oil under their sand, we should send them to rebuild their infrastructure, supply clean water, and feed starving children...
Oops! our US no longer a Real Democracy nor uphold human rights and freedom is ruined by US neocons in power. ironic! sAD! IDIOTIc bahahahahAAA
Lost In Transition

United States

#169300 Sep 30, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
We really need more women in Congress. About 3 tmes as many. I have never seen so many men yak, yak, yakking and getting so little accomplished in my LIFE as with this bunch.
Even Obama, for God's sake never shuts-up. Takes him 22 minutes to say the word "no."
"If you want something said, ask a man; if you want something done, ask a woman."
M. Thatcher
Bingo.
Today I watched Barbara Boxer explaining how the effort to defund obamacare is just another front of the repub's war on women. Yesterday it was Pelosi explaing how the constitution gives obama the right to enforce certain parts of a law, while ignoring others.
You gal's rock!

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#169301 Sep 30, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
We really need more women in Congress. About 3 tmes as many. I have never seen so many men yak, yak, yakking and getting so little accomplished in my LIFE as with this bunch.
Even Obama, for God's sake never shuts-up. Takes him 22 minutes to say the word "no."
"If you want something said, ask a man; if you want something done, ask a woman."
M. Thatcher
Bingo.
http://pelosi.house.gov/

How many do you want cloned?
HipGnozizzz

Dahinda, IL

#169302 Sep 30, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
That horse you're on is too much for your riding ability. You really should get off him before you get hurt.
==
This is a game for two. My turn.
Post the lies and myths Obama & Co. has spoken about the ACA or in that fog you live in, has His Holiness and devoted spokespersons never done that? If you have to >omit< to support your position, you don't have a truthful position. By the way, Politifact leans to the left and is biased but 'A' for effort trying to slip that one past and no, I don't care if it's won a Pulitzer. In the world we now live in, Obama won the Nobel Peace prize. What's that tell you?
Word to the wise. Should you agree to post Obama's falsehoods on this, beware. You'll have your work cut out for you. Obama's lies are often camouflaged, muted, softened, cushioned, excused and/or conveniently forgotten. Liberal journalism is tricky and covered with fungus so bring a really good shovel to dig with, wear high rubber boots and >LEAN FORWARD< when digging, it's easier on the back. You'll find the wording is diluted so instead of calling them outright MYTHS or LIES, you'll bump into words like: misleading, slightly exaggerated, half true, optimistic, hopefully suggested, possible, not yet determined, partially true, a stretch, wishful, mildly inflated, partially correct, a little off the mark........
Good luck.
That's a pretty sloppy at-bat, player. I don't know if you're just lazy, or you get away with that diva-commander stuff so much elsewhere you think it'll fly here. Not so much. You made the charge, you do your own homework. Hell, I even spotted ya one and you couldn't even bunt that one.

Recapping the game: You claimned a gov't takeover of healthcare. Strike 1. You claimed this equaled socialism - since Strike 1 was a whiff, this makes Strike 2. Then you claimed Obama gave Congressional staffers exemption from the ACA. He didn't. Strike 3. Grab some wood, slugger. Yer battin' O-fer.
HipGnozizzz

Dahinda, IL

#169303 Sep 30, 2013
If you want to see the fascinating evolution of the "staffer exemption" lie, Google "Vitter amendment". You'll find it began as a cynical parliamentary maneuver by Chuck Grassley (R-IA) which specifically included staffers in the ACA exchanges. But wait. They already had insurance. Now staffers would have have to pay for their insurance AND pay to be in an exchange, while being prohibited by the ACA from being in an exchange. Thanks Chuck. Luckily for them, the Office of Personnel Mgmt re-directed their current premiums to the exchange, so they wouldn't take a pay cut due to Grassley's cynical ploy. This, people, is the origin of the so-called "congressional exemption".

The rational person might ask - How did it go from a Repub amendment requiring staffers to be included in the exchanges, to "Obama exempts Congress from the ACA"? Sorry, you'd have to penetrate the right-wing echo-chamber to get that answer.

Now comes the David Vitter amendment. Vitter would negate the OPM's ruling, and force it back to the mess Grassley left where staffers have to pay but not participate. Why would he do this? Who the hell knows? These New Republicans have lost all semblance of reason AND completely lost touch with real people and their problems. Think people will remember this stuff next year?
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#169304 Sep 30, 2013
Lost In Transition wrote:
<quoted text>
Today I watched Barbara Boxer explaining how the effort to defund obamacare is just another front of the repub's war on women. Yesterday it was Pelosi explaing how the constitution gives obama the right to enforce certain parts of a law, while ignoring others.
You gal's rock!
If I didn't know better, I'd think you just compared all of us "gals" out here to Boxer and Pelosi.
We "gals?"
lol-
HipGnozizzz

Dahinda, IL

#169305 Sep 30, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't even try to go there with me with your: "Redistribution of wealth is an economic concept that underlies all taxation policy...." Save THAT for someone who buys liberal snake oil.
Obama has given new meaning to the word 'redistribution' the same way he gave new meaning to the words, "they didn't build that."
They called his speech at Loyola University in 1998 a LEAK for a reason, Hip and it's wasn't because he was talking about the foundation of a boring old, put you to sleep basic tax structure.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/18/obam...
Since you can't be fooled, please explain to the class how McCain's "redistribution of wealth" is any different from Obama's? Don't be afraid to thrown in a fact or two. I know you might lose your right-wing extremist cred but I won't tell.
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#169306 Sep 30, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
<quoted text>
http://pelosi.house.gov/
How many do you want cloned?
You too? What's wrong with you two that Pelosi jumps into your heads when I suggest more women in congress?

Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#169307 Sep 30, 2013
HipGnozizzz wrote:
<quoted text>That's a pretty sloppy at-bat, player. I don't know if you're just lazy, or you get away with that diva-commander stuff so much elsewhere you think it'll fly here. Not so much. You made the charge, you do your own homework. Hell, I even spotted ya one and you couldn't even bunt that one.
Recapping the game: You claimned a gov't takeover of healthcare. Strike 1. You claimed this equaled socialism - since Strike 1 was a whiff, this makes Strike 2. Then you claimed Obama gave Congressional staffers exemption from the ACA. He didn't. Strike 3. Grab some wood, slugger. Yer battin' O-fer.
That isn't a list of the falsehoods he's made regarding the ACA. That's just more of your blah, blah, blah. Let me know when you have it compiled or if you're refusing to produce it. Either way.

=
Now go put on your little party hat. WH has ordered preperation for a government shutdown. Obamacare is coming out of the gate in the morning and we all get to watch that THING unfold.
Obama's signature legislation.
And don't be nervous. If the wheels come off it and it crashes into the wall and implodes all you'll probably lose is the senate.
HipGnozizzz

Dahinda, IL

#169308 Sep 30, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
We really need more women in Congress. About 3 tmes as many. I have never seen so many men yak, yak, yakking and getting so little accomplished in my LIFE as with this bunch.
Even Obama, for God's sake never shuts-up. Takes him 22 minutes to say the word "no."
"If you want something said, ask a man; if you want something done, ask a woman."
M. Thatcher
Bingo.
Maybe I can make you re-consider.

I agree 100%.

"What, sir, would the people of the earth be without women? Scarce, sir, almighty scarce." Mark Twain
HipGnozizzz

Dahinda, IL

#169309 Sep 30, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
That isn't a list of the falsehoods he's made regarding the ACA. That's just more of your blah, blah, blah. Let me know when you have it compiled or if you're refusing to produce it. Either way.
You don't listen well, do you? Why am I not surprised?

As I said, you are either magnificently lazy, or you get away with that diva commander stuff elsewhere. It ain't flying here. You made the charge, you do your own homework.

I've already scored it another whiff at-bat, but I used pencil. Surprise me, just once.

It doesn't matter if it's true or not, does it? Just sayin' it keeps the choir happy. I get it. Let 'er rip. Just don't expect me to play. Can't help it - momma taught me to hate lies.
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>Now go put on your little party hat. WH has ordered preperation for a government shutdown. Obamacare is coming out of the gate in the morning and we all get to watch that THING unfold.
Obama's signature legislation.
And don't be nervous. If the wheels come off it and it crashes into the wall and implodes all you'll probably lose is the senate.
You already counting your eggs again, Ms. PollyAnna? The aftermath of your pre-election celebration last go round would have caused most folks to be a little more careful. But, the only celebratin' you got lately is pre-election sand castles, so I guess you just as well dig away.

Some of still remember the last go round about 17 years ago. How'd that work out?

What's the definition of insanity, again?

>wink<
Lost In Transition

United States

#169310 Sep 30, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
If I didn't know better, I'd think you just compared all of us "gals" out here to Boxer and Pelosi.
We "gals?"
lol-
Sorry. My hormones got the best of me.
How 'bout them Saints!?
Lost In Transition

United States

#169311 Sep 30, 2013
HipGnozizzz wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe I can make you re-consider.
I agree 100%.
"What, sir, would the people of the earth be without women? Scarce, sir, almighty scarce." Mark Twain
AWWW.....C'MON MAN!
I figured we'd lose Catcher, but you??
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#169312 Oct 1, 2013
HipGnozizzz wrote:
<quoted text>That's a pretty sloppy at-bat, player. I don't know if you're just lazy, or you get away with that diva-commander stuff so much elsewhere you think it'll fly here. Not so much. You made the charge, you do your own homework. Hell, I even spotted ya one and you couldn't even bunt that one.
Do you really talk like that? Jeez...
And I've already answered you, sport. You just didn't like my answer. Here it is again. LEAN FORWARD and read. It's my answer and at the risk of being called "magnificently lazy" by you, it's what you're getting. Btw, you really should omit the five syllable adjectives. Makes you sound like a girly a$$. Besides, it just adds more useless pork I have to edit off your usual blah, blah, blah.
==
When the government performs an entire make-over on healthcare in this country which up until now been a private sector business and one which totals one sixth of the entire US economy......
and you combine that with the IRS overseeing it's implementation and administration..........
and for added fun that same entity has with the blessing of SCOTUS to fine (tax) those who don't comply, I'm pretty sure at this point its safe to say it falls under the heading of socialism.
==
Any political or economic theory that's put into motion which advocates collective and/or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.
Websters version.
A way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies. I'll give you this. The government doesn't own the hospitals and pay the doctors. Yet.
"A WAY OF ORGANIZING A SOCIETY IN WHICH MAJOR INDUSTRIES ARE CONTROLLED....." Purchasing personal healthcare in this country is now controlled by the government. Yes, no, maybe? Invasive? Yes, no or maybe? Pervasive? Yes, no or maybe? Intrusive? Yes, no or maybe? Has this not just opened that insidious barn door of government involvement in our personal lives a little further? Yes, no or maybe? You MUST buy this or else. What the he11 do you call THAT, Hip? Libertarianism?
The government is, by dubious law imo, ORDERING every citizen to buy something they may not want to buy or face penalties. And just so you stop tinkling in your pants, I'll no longer use the word EXEMPTION regarding congress and this law. We'll just call them special people with special presidential privileges. Okay? Oh yeah, and some of the big businesses which he favors get to be special too.... with those same special presidential privileges.
The kicker to this whole thing, is the following. We know the majority of Americans voted for Obama, thus they voted for his healthcare act.
NOW, surprise-surprise we know the majority of Americans don't want his healthcare plan.
Is it safe to say "low information voter," yet? ALL the polls showing people who DON'T want this, are filled with the same geniuses who VOTED for this. You really are a hoot (aka known as a pip.) Not only are you pleased as punch Obama won, you want to pretend the people who voted for him were well informed. Good luck with that. The polls say just the opposite.
==
Now, stop stalling and name those 2 rogue agents responsible for the 'phoney' IRS scandal, give me a detailed report on how the fake hunt is going for those responsible for Benghazi the other phoney scandal, post the list of Obama's myths and lies regarding the ACA and for extra credit, explain how the word(s) LEAN FORWARD accidently got subliminally adopted by Obama as an accompanying tagline to his politics.
And if you do all that in a timely manner, I'll give you really high MARX.
Promise!
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#169313 Oct 1, 2013
Soooooooo, my question this morning is to Tea Party fans who orchestrated this little hiccup.

How is this shutdown drama helping America, when 72+-% of Americans didn't want a shutdown? Because if this is the part where I'm supposed to get all warm and fuzzy over Ted Cruz's standing strong on his principles, I'm not feeling it.

Am I doing it wrong?
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#169314 Oct 1, 2013
Lost In Transition wrote:
<quoted text>
AWWW.....C'MON MAN!
I figured we'd lose Catcher, but you??
Sources tell me Catcher was recently spotted trying to solicit IANS to come "over here" to assist him in keeping from drowning. That would bring his appearing and disappearing posse up to four, I think. This forum has now hosted Tide and River and Clem (they didn't stick around long, did they?) and now perhaps IANS may make a celebrity appearance.
Eek -- this is so exciting. I must remember to shine my party shoes!

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