Bush is a hero

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

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#169104 Sep 26, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
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Plenty of men and WOMEN,{you forgot the women,} stand by their principles. They just don't happen to match yours.
You didn't read far enough into the message...

"I'm afraid if we don't find more men, or women, who are willing to stand by their principles, and embarrass others into doing what's right, this country is doomed to become just another 'former' world leader."

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

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#169105 Sep 26, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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On another subject close to your heart.
What's your take on Mrs. Zimmerman's comments on her husband's guilt?
Interesting, wouldn't you say?
Will your pal respond?
Will you, on his behalf?
Do you often take the word of the wife without question in a divorce case?

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

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#169106 Sep 26, 2013
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>I got that - hence the laughter.
Reefer madness was funny when I saw it in Middle School.
I can't believe that people actually believed it.

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

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#169107 Sep 26, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
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Plenty of men and WOMEN,{you forgot the women,} stand by their principles. They just don't happen to match yours.
Unfortunately, they call them liberal Democrats. And, you're right, they don't match mine.

The ones I have a problem with are the folks like John McLame. They know what their principles should be, because they run on them to get re-elected. Once elected they have no problem compromising those principles to get air time on the liberal media. We call them RINOs.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#169108 Sep 26, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
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Do you often take the word of the wife without question in a divorce case?
No, I just asked you for your take on Ms. Zimmerman's statements.

I understand your reluctance to answer my question.

I sympathize with your distress and, unless you care to comment, will drop it for now.
HipGnozizzz

Altona, IL

#169109 Sep 26, 2013
Chris Clearwater wrote:
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Breaking news... Bob Beckel says single payer will never happen in this nation. Also said heath care is a right. Funny I didn't see that in the Constitution.
This is a tired and frankly ignorant argument someone pulls out their adz every time we're dealing with a complex modern question - "I didn't see that in the Constitution!" The Constitution is a framework of a government, not a legal encyclopedia. People that are that simple probably better stick to discussing the weather.

At the time the Constitution was written, healthcare could be paid for with a couple of squirrels or a sack of potatoes. Prescription drugs amounted to not much more than bloodletting, willow-bark tea, and golden-seal poultice. My great-grandma had a seemingly irrational fear of hospitals, until it was explained that in her generation, hospitals were where you went to die. 18th-century proto-Americans couldn't even imagine the healthcare behemoth we have today.

The Constitution does guarantee the right to life for the livingn. You have often proclaimed the sanctity of life, when that tired cliche is called for in opposition to another form of healthcare. Riddle me this - Can one enjoy "life" today without access to healthcare? You've certainly had plenty of time to think about it, so what would you propose for the 40 million uninsured? Ron Paul says if they have no "right" to healthcare, then they have no right to the emergency room. At least he's consistent, but is he right?

Or do you have no ideas any better than proposed by Cruz? He admitted that healthcare has become crushingly expensive, and said that rather than continue the ACA, we should deal with that.

That's it. Speaking for 21 hours, the one healthcare reform alternative Cruz offered in all that time? The same thing politicians of all stripes have been telling us since healthcare reform first came up over 40 years ago - "Deal with it."
HipGnozizzz

Altona, IL

#169110 Sep 26, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
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Do you often take the word of the wife without question in a divorce case?
No, you generally take into account past history of those involved.

Let's see,
- resisting officer with violence - check.
- battery of law enforcement officer - got it.
- court-ordered alcohol abuse program - hmmm.
- restraining order granted charging domestic violence - uh oh.
- following, shooting, killing a boy - well, now.

Yeah, I'd say there's a smidge of history there......

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#169111 Sep 26, 2013
HipGnozizzz wrote:
<quoted text>No, you generally take into account past history of those involved.
Let's see,
- resisting officer with violence - check.
- battery of law enforcement officer - got it.
- court-ordered alcohol abuse program - hmmm.
- restraining order granted charging domestic violence - uh oh.
- following, shooting, killing a boy - well, now.
Yeah, I'd say there's a smidge of history there......
Go easy on this one.

You'll pop bobin's balloon.

He may start crying on us.
HipGnozizzz

Altona, IL

#169112 Sep 26, 2013
In a demographic survey of Fox viewers, they tend to be overwhelmingly conservative in ideology. That's not a stretch is it? In fact the majority lean or are solidly identify as Republican. Sure, it's all the vogue nowadays for some to claim "Independent", esp. among fractious conservatives, but a few general questions quickly establish that they generally oppose all things Democrat, so......

So, it's no surprise that a poll of Fox viewers would be majority opposed to the ACA (ObamaCare). What is a surprise is this interesting tidbit gleaned from a wide-ranging Fox News poll, dated Sept. 6-8, 2013.

Question 34a asked,

Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of Obamacare?
Unfavorable - 60%

34b asked,

Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of the 2010 health care law called the Affordable Care Act?
Unfavorable - 55%

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2...

Get that? Same law, same question - 5 point swing.

There's the power of unrelenting propoganda, right there.

Prediction - when the conspiracy-groupies move on to fresher meat- and they will - and the dust of obfuscation clears, and the ACA settles in as law, and Americans find it ain't the end of the free world, and Granny didn't actually have to beg for her life before a Nazi-esque death panel, and in fact Americans find they actually like ObamaCare,

how long before "ObamaCare" gets a branding makeover? Whhaddyathink - will "RomneyCare" return? or will it be BoehnerCare? CruzCare just doesn't roll.....
Lost In Transition

United States

#169113 Sep 26, 2013
HipGnozizzz wrote:
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At the time the Constitution was written, healthcare could be paid for with a couple of squirrels or a sack of potatoes. Prescription drugs amounted to not much more than bloodletting, willow-bark tea, and golden-seal poultice. My great-grandma had a seemingly irrational fear of hospitals, until it was explained that in her generation, hospitals were where you went to die.

Or do you have no ideas any better than proposed by Cruz? He admitted that healthcare has become crushingly expensive, and said that rather than continue the ACA, we should deal with that.
Hey, Hip.
Cruz was right. Cost is the problem. And returning to your great-grandmas day is one of the answers. A big one. We should be dealing directly with our doctors. No middle-man. None. A sack of potatoes, a couple of squirrels as you've said. Every intermediary that enters that relationship does so with their hand out. And they don't want to shake.
berserker

Lodi, CA

#169114 Sep 26, 2013
T-Rex wrote:
I wonder why many of you would rather lie with the enemy, than stand for your country. Turncoats
Anyone who would think Bush other than a war criminal is either NUTS, or is profiting greatly and is part of the wretched millitary industrialist complex. Standing with your country does not mean standing with a war mongering criminal.

You can best bet if there was nothing of interest there for American corporations that war would never have happened. In my day it was (protect the world from the commies) Now its (protect the world from terrorists) American government and thier arch criminal partners in crime are the biggest terroists on the planet!

“2016 No Clinton No Bush!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#169115 Sep 26, 2013
I see Jesse Sharpton (or is it Al Jackson) is back in business ...
UidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#169116 Sep 26, 2013
Lost In Transition wrote:
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I voted for Perot. Twice. He would have won if those damn Martians hadn't kidnapped his daughter, or something like that. Man, that would have been a fun administration.
i read some where in Professional Critics Commentary of a newspaper, forgot the name , rumors or not that Republicans issued death threats that scared Perot into leaving run for POTUS, who know if true or not?
UidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#169117 Sep 26, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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I didn't forget the women.
I posted on your derriere shot, and I also suggested Sarah Palin as a candidate!
Or the hilderbeast HillarYArious, Lyndi will enjoy here also! BAHahahhahaaa She be PALINg for a refright! HEHEHEHEHE!
UidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#169118 Sep 26, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
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You didn't read far enough into the message...
"I'm afraid if we don't find more men, or women, who are willing to stand by their principles, and embarrass others into doing what's right, this country is doomed to become just another 'former' world leader."
War monger Right wingers named DR Doom AKA SATAN and its minion is you fearless leader, you even kowtow to his every madness and evil ...

BWHAHHAhaaaa
UidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#169119 Sep 26, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
I see Jesse Sharpton (or is it Al Jackson) is back in business ...
Watch ?

Bhahhhaaa
UidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#169120 Sep 26, 2013
Chris Clearwater wrote:
Is this a hate crime?
Greenville Wal-Mart Shooter Picked Victims By Race
http://charlotte.cbslocal.com/2013/09/25/gree...
Or this?
The 70-Year-Old Man Beaten Unprovoked in 7-Eleven Parking Lot Has Died
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/09/26/th...
Alot of Crime around them Box stores and chains... statistical police reports many crimes in neighborhood with these Chain stores open , a haven for crime... I DON'T SHOP at these low-end chains and its bad for Neighborhood it kills Mom and Pop Stores...
UidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#169121 Sep 26, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
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I gladly cast my vote for Mitt Romney. He may have been a tad weak on some conservative values, but I was voting for his economic experience and knowledge, and that, to me, he was a very decent person.
I also voted for John McCain, partly because of his honorable military service to our country, but mostly because I saw obama as a disaster to our country, a premonition that has proven itself to be oh so true... and much worse than I had envisioned. However, even as bad as I thought obama was for our country, I still had to hold my nose as I pulled the lever for McCain... and he's only gotten worse.
Authoritarians like you love Megalomanics and Pyscopathic leaders, no wonder our Us in deep doo doo! You mentally challenged grunter! MwBHAHAHahaaa

“The future begins”

Since: Jul 07

every moment

#169122 Sep 26, 2013
Lost In Transition wrote:
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Hey, Hip.
Cruz was right. Cost is the problem. And returning to your great-grandmas day is one of the answers. A big one. We should be dealing directly with our doctors. No middle-man. None. A sack of potatoes, a couple of squirrels as you've said. Every intermediary that enters that relationship does so with their hand out. And they don't want to shake.
*!sputter!* Wha!? What's this? A sober, thoughtful, rational response, devoid of ad hominems and broad-brush labeling? This is topix, fella, not debate.com . Our model was set by the SNL debate team - it should always begin with, "Jane, you ignorant slut!"

Ok, fine. Cruz is right, kinda. Since he didn't choose to use 5 minutes out of the 1260 he had to elaborate, I'm afraid what I heard was the same vague can-kicking-down-the-road we've gotten for 40+ years.

But you're more right than Cruz. Cost-containment is key. Surely you agree that health-care has made great advances since 1893 (the year off Grama's birth), and is likewise far more complex than 100 years ago. I believe that people have a right to basic health-care access without bankrupting the future. It's not a bit of hyperbole to say that it is a crime against humanity that a hc professional can take a two-week vacation on another person's life-savings.

At the same time, I'll easily admit that a major quandary is the very presence of gov't backing, which seems to be tantamount to over-charging and abuse. The medical lobby has done a bang-up job, as hospital complexes sprawl across whole zipcodes, due largely to arcane tax incentives. I recall the itemized bill for our first child, and this was 28 years ago -$16 for two aspirin,$12 for a tongue depressor - an oversized popsicle stick! And this just for the father. ;) It's ludicrous.

So how to put the brakes on? The best idea I've heard is to be able to negotiate price as a purchasing block, under a single-payer system (something you'll note was prohibited under the Med Part D law). Obama's original plan even allowed to leave the middle-man insurance companies in place, but to limit profits on basic coverage to a set percentage of 3%, as I recall. They still were free to offer Cadillac plans for whatever price the market would bear, but at least there would be an open comparative market as opposed to the myriad Byzantine plans out there now.

But all this got - not negotiated away - but shamed away under the boos and hisses of fallacious "socialism" and "government take-over" propoganda.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#169123 Sep 26, 2013
UidiotRaceMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>Authoritarians like you love Megalomanics and Pyscopathic leaders, no wonder our Us in deep doo doo! You mentally challenged grunter! MwBHAHAHahaaa
Exactly.

It's the authoritarian personality.

Dick Cheney is the perfect example.

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