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If you can't counter assertions with something at least funnier, if not more accurate, it says more about you than it does anyone.
This was really lame.
(Thanks, Sister Kathryn)
Too stupid to think up yer own d@mn msgs.

Worthless freakin' troll.

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WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>That's very well done, Lyndi - probably the best artificial argument I've seen posted in this thread by anyone for as long as it's been going on.
You may not believe it, but that's sincere.
I've already told you why I think it's an artificial argument, and you've done nothing to address that. You keep plugging away, banging on your drum, trying to force me to accept or overlook the flawed premise.
In the end you're still trying to make political points off of something that isn't political. No matter how creative you get, no matter how hard you work, no matter how much you ratchet up the invective, it's still not going to work.
You don't believe in Santabama?

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Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
The bill currently active in Congress, which was introduced on February 5 of this year by Rep. Jared Polis (D-Col.), would:
remove marijuana from Schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act;
revise the definition of “felony drug offense” to exclude conduct relating to marijuana;
prohibit the transporting of marijuana into any place where its possession, use, or sale is prohibited;
require marijuana producers to purchase a permit like commercial alcohol producers do;
subject marijuana to the federal provisions that apply to intoxicating liquors and distilled spirits;
and reassign jurisdiction of marijuana regulation from the Drug Enforcement Administration to the renamed Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Marijuana, Firearms and Explosives.
Said Representative Polis,
This legislation doesn’t force any state to legalize marijuana, but Colorado and the 18 other jurisdictions that have chosen to allow marijuana for medical or recreational use deserve the certainty of knowing that federal agents won’t raid state-legal businesses. Congress should simply allow states to regulate marijuana as they see fit and stop wasting federal tax dollars on the failed drug war.
Now that doesn’t mean that Representative Polis is a Democratic version of former Congressman Ron Paul. It doesn’t mean that he is a libertarian. It doesn’t mean that he opposes the wasting of federal tax dollars on anything else. It doesn’t mean that he wants all the states to legalize marijuana, for medical use or otherwise. It doesn’t mean that he favors the legalization of drugs besides marijuana. All it means is that, at least on this issue, Representative Polis wants to transfer the oversight of something from the federal government to the states; that is, at least on this issue, he wants the federal government to follow the Constitution.
The Constitution nowhere grants to the federal government the authority to have anything to do with marijuana or any other drug. No regulations, no restrictions, no drug schedules, no controlled substances, and certainly no prohibition.
Maybe Congress should read it sometime.
Maybe you should look at 'real' facts...
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>Much as it would otherwise pain me to say such a thing, I have respect for any Tea Party Republicans, it would be the 'politically insane' ones. Unfortunately, the majority of Tea-party Republicans, don't fit this description, and are far more 'ideologically insane' than politically so...in that most of them have been just as busy stumping for re-election as any Democrat, since they took office.
Talk about 'all hat and no cattle'....
You used a Texas phrase, I hope you didn't have Ted Cruz in mind. He's doing what he thinks is right, knowing that so doing will probably cost him any party support when it comes to his re-election.

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Sep 24, 2013
 
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
The bill currently active in Congress, which was introduced on February 5 of this year by Rep. Jared Polis (D-Col.), would:
remove marijuana from Schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act;
revise the definition of “felony drug offense” to exclude conduct relating to marijuana;
prohibit the transporting of marijuana into any place where its possession, use, or sale is prohibited;
require marijuana producers to purchase a permit like commercial alcohol producers do;
subject marijuana to the federal provisions that apply to intoxicating liquors and distilled spirits;
and reassign jurisdiction of marijuana regulation from the Drug Enforcement Administration to the renamed Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Marijuana, Firearms and Explosives.
Said Representative Polis,
This legislation doesn’t force any state to legalize marijuana, but Colorado and the 18 other jurisdictions that have chosen to allow marijuana for medical or recreational use deserve the certainty of knowing that federal agents won’t raid state-legal businesses. Congress should simply allow states to regulate marijuana as they see fit and stop wasting federal tax dollars on the failed drug war.
Now that doesn’t mean that Representative Polis is a Democratic version of former Congressman Ron Paul. It doesn’t mean that he is a libertarian. It doesn’t mean that he opposes the wasting of federal tax dollars on anything else. It doesn’t mean that he wants all the states to legalize marijuana, for medical use or otherwise. It doesn’t mean that he favors the legalization of drugs besides marijuana. All it means is that, at least on this issue, Representative Polis wants to transfer the oversight of something from the federal government to the states; that is, at least on this issue, he wants the federal government to follow the Constitution.
The Constitution nowhere grants to the federal government the authority to have anything to do with marijuana or any other drug. No regulations, no restrictions, no drug schedules, no controlled substances, and certainly no prohibition.
Maybe Congress should read it sometime.
Screw the trailer, have the whole 'fact based' movie...
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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If ever there was a reason to be suspicious of 'government facts', watch it.

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You used a Texas phrase, I hope you didn't have Ted Cruz in mind. He's doing what he thinks is right, knowing that so doing will probably cost him any party support when it comes to his re-election.
Just watched a clip where Rove was pissed off because Cruz didn't consult him and other so called leaders. Love him or hate him Cruz is a man whose word is worth something. That alone hacks off most in Washington circles.

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"I think that history will judge Bush by what he's done:
Used his family's money to avoid prosecution for DUI.
Used his family's influence to avoid military service.
Used his family's money to buy a barely-passing college degree."

This is a nice chunk of truth.

But hes done worse. Lied to the world about Iraq is the big one that jumps out at me.
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Compu Craft wrote:
"I think that history will judge Bush by what he's done:
Used his family's money to avoid prosecution for DUI.
Used his family's influence to avoid military service.
Used his family's money to buy a barely-passing college degree."
This is a nice chunk of truth.
But hes done worse. Lied to the world about Iraq is the big one that jumps out at me.
Not another one :p
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BobinTX wrote:
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Of course Democrats are in the definition of 'American voters'. You couldn't have over 60% of the voters being opposed to obamacare without having a sizeable number of Democrats in that mix.
Over 60%, is it now?

“If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything.” &#8213; Mark Twain

It's a good bet you gotta keep a journal to remember all yours.

Sample polling 9/4-9/15
Rasmussen - 53% opposed
ABC/Wash Post - 52%
CNN - 57%
Fox News - 54%
NBC/WSJ - 44%
USA Today/Pew - 53%

Looks like your "over 60%" comes from the same "think-tank" that produced Rove's election predictions.

Of course the "hi-info voter" would know just how that avg. 52% opposed breaks down into subsets. Right? You know, because you're one of those lofty ones always sniffin' you have such superior command of all pertinent "information" and all.

So, out of that 52% opposed, what percent feel it was too watered down and doesn't go far enough to reform a bloated, inefficient, and diabolically expensive health-care system? Of course I know, but it's your story, so I'll let you share with the class. You know,'cos it'd make the statement more "fair and balanced", right?

You'd rather not? Ah well. You can lead an ideologue to facts, but you can't make him think.

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Just watched a clip where Rove was pissed off because Cruz didn't consult him and other so called leaders. Love him or hate him Cruz is a man whose word is worth something. That alone hacks off most in Washington circles.
If you're talking about what Rove said on O’Reilly, it wasn't about him and it wasn't about the leadership. It was about not consulting and coordinating his strategy with his Senate colleagues.
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<quoted text>There are numerous reasons for this:
1) Marijuana is a branch of the hemp family, and Big Oil doesn't want to be hemp farmers. As long as marijuana is considered a scheduled drug, industrial hemp will also remain illegal.
2) Marijuana is easy to grow, and Big Pharma wants to remain one of the only two industries legally allowed to profit from it. As long as its possession by the unlicensed is criminally prosecuted, they will.(Of course the drug cartels, and the black market, are an acceptable part of this business model.)
3) Big Prison is the only OTHER industry allowed to profit from marijuana, although these profits are incidental to its legality, or the lack thereof.(Of course the drug cartels, and the black market, are an acceptable part of this business model, as well.)
4) Big Fed, otherwise known as the DEA, has far too much pride invested in the "War on Drugs." to go back now. Should marijuana suddenly become de-criminalized -or made entirely legal- Big Fed suddenly looks like a stone fool. They can't be having that, even though we've already repealed prohibition once, because it didn't work.
It still hasn't worked - for the American People. Working just fine for the above folks though. Don't see it happening anytime soon, but willing to work to make it happen eventually.
Legalize it.
JMO
There it is. But I think we're moving along. There really isn't that much political opposition any longer, except knowing the weeping and ganshing of teeth of the Puritans will have a field day. I won't be surprised they'll be celebrating 4/20 in the open air before I pass. I'll bring the Doritos if you'll get the donuts...;)

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Can't decide which was more impressive about Cruz's faux-filibuster - his moving rendition of Green Eggs and Ham, or the way he managed to shoe-horn a Nazi reference in.

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Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
From the WGY home page:
An open letter to parents in Rensselaer County
What planet do you live on?
Last week, word got out that your children had broken into a home in Stephentown and threw a party. More than 300 of them partied and drunkenly smashed windows, urinated on the floors, stood on tables, punched holes in the ceiling and stole a statue that was part of a memorial for the owner’s stillborn grandson. Oh, it gets better. Before, during and after the party, they tweeted about it and posted pictures of themselves engaged in this behavior.
Way to go.

The house is owned by former NFL player Brian Holloway. It is his second residence, paid for in part by his Super Bowl bonus. He lives in Florida and the Stephentown house is on the market. He watched this unfold online while at his home in Florida. Instead of demanding the arrest of your kids, he instead created a website, www.helpmesave300.com where he reposted their photos, identified the people involved, and called for ways to reach out to young people and show them that there are better ways to spend their time than drinking, drugs and vandalism.

He is a better person than I would have been in that position. It takes class and compassion to see beyond the urine stained carpets, broken windows, damaged walls and blatant disrespect to reach out to your kids. He even offered to welcome these derelicts back to his house for a picnic, where they would work together to make repairs and clean up the mess they left behind. I don’t know that the rest of us would have been able to react the same way.
And one kid showed up. One, out of the 300 teens who were there.
Instead of dragging your kids back to apologize and clean up the mess, you lashed out at Brian Holloway, threatened to firebomb his house, and are now planning to sue him. For what? For identifying your kids online. Well guess what? Your little Johnny did that himself the minute he tweeted that iPhone photo standing on the dining room table, holding a red solo cup filled with beer.

Look, I don’t blame you for what your kids did. Heck, I don’t even really blame them. Teens will be teens, and they do stupid things sometimes. We’ve all been there. It’s not fair to judge parents on the mistakes their kids make. It is how you handle that behavior afterwards that reflects on you as a parent.

Instead of sitting little Johnny down and reminding him that what he did is not acceptable and then dragging him by the collar to apologize to Mr. Holloway, you chose instead to harass and threaten the victim. Let’s not forget here, your child victimized this man by destroying his home. How dare you respond with anything other than regret, embarrassment, and a sincere apology instead of righteous indignation, threats of violence and lawsuits.

Parents like you are responsible for an entire generation that expects the world handed to them, because you have given it to them all along. Instead of teaching your kids to work hard and earn things, you give a trophy to every kid in youth sports and then hand them an iPhone in middle school. You are the parents screaming through the fence at the Little League umpire instead of teaching good sportsmanship. You are the ones criticizing the teacher instead of realizing they just want to help your child learn.

Can you please just step back and look at what you are doing to your kids? This is the generation that will grow up to lead our country and make decisions regarding our lives. I hope none of them are YOUR children.
-Kelly
Wow. I hadn't heard this before, maybe because I don't keep up with football or football players. I don't know how Mr. Holloway could have been so gracious to these young vandals, how all but one showed not the slightest sense of shame, and most of all I cannot comprehend the parents that would make excuses for kids who did this kind of thing.

Thanks for posting it, Kat.

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lisw wrote:
<quoted text>It's not republican or democrat. I have a theory about what's happened to our kids. The greatest generation wanted their kids to have more than they did so they raised them in the strictest sense with almost a demand to make it. Result was the yuppie generation who thought their parents were too tough on them and vowed to make things easier going on their kids.
Result was a dependent generation that needed their parents to get the things they were used to without having to work for it. Now these teens are the kids of those dependent adults and have no boundaries or accountability at all. I'm not saying this is true of all families but it sure seems to be a trend.

Now I have to add that these are the youth that Obama appeals to. It is a parenting style they're used to, being taken care of without having to work.
You know, that's roughly what I think myself, Lis. My dad, on the other hand, blames it all on Dr. Spock :)
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No Brief Encounter
By: MAUREEN DOWD
Published: September 24, 2013

The man formerly hailed as a messiah was having a bad day.


The Iranians snubbed him. The Brazilians upbraided him. Ted Cruz faux-filibustered him. And you just know that, behind the scenes, the Russians were messing with him.

At the end of a long, hard day at the United Nations, he escaped into the sweaty and freighted embrace of the Clintons, who had to explain and defend the president’s own health care plan for him at their global initiative conference/Hillary 2016 pep rally. The choreography of diplomacy danced around the tantalizing possibility of a historic handshake that could end three decades of poison.(Even though the last climactic clasp, between Yitzhak Rabin and Yasir Arafat, disappointingly proved that sometimes a handshake is just a handshake.)

With the welcome exit of the provincial Iranian fruitbat, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, could the country W. declared part of the “axis of evil” reach out to the country smeared as the “Great Satan” by Ayatollah Khomeini? Obama administration officials at the U.N. on Tuesday explained to reporters that there would not be a bilateral between President Obama and President Hassan Rouhani of Iran, or any sort of “formal meeting.”

“We’re not prepared for heads of state to negotiate or presidents to negotiate on the nuclear issue,” an official said, speaking on background. An “encounter” would be permissible. Not a long one, but an “informal, brief encounter.”

“So,” a reporter asked,“like a handshake?”

“Yes, that type of thing,” the official replied.“Exactly. On the margins here.”

Except that, after the White House spent a week suggesting that there could be a press-the-flesh moment, Rouhani snubbed Obama.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/25/opinion/dow...

Pitiful.
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Lost In Transition wrote:
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I like waffles. And asses. Sounds like a winning combo.
I can overlook the tattoo.
No tattoo.
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Can't decide which was more impressive about Cruz's faux-filibuster - his moving rendition of Green Eggs and Ham, or the way he managed to shoe-horn a Nazi reference in.
It IS a fake filbuster but I was still kind of hoping he'd read the whole Affordable Care Act outloud so Pelosi can find out what's in it. But on second thought, what would be the point of that? She doesn't need to know what's in it because she and the rest of congress have been granted a presidential pardon and don't have to use it.
It's pretty obnoxious that the American people have to put up with this psycho healthcare plan but Congress doesn't. But it does makes one wonder. If it's so darn good, why in the world would they opt out?

(((BOING)))
I've got it! It isn't any good and they know it!

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Back to the filibuster. Can people wear a Depends adult diaper when they do this or is that against the rules?
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BobinTX wrote:
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You used a Texas phrase, I hope you didn't have Ted Cruz in mind. He's doing what he thinks is right, knowing that so doing will probably cost him any party support when it comes to his re-election.
He's copycatting Rand Paul's moment on center stage with the drone strikes filibuster which gave him temporary top billing among republicans and a whole bunch of disco lights.

This probably isn't going to stop Obamacare and it's probably not going to shut down the government but just in case, if it does shut down government, you might want to duck.
I think it's just another highwire walk. Tea party members might have glory, glory hallelugah playing in their heads every time they see the guy for awhile but I'm pretty sure when the show's over and it's discovered that the hand wringing anticipation was all for naught, it'll just end with a soft thud. I do hope he isn't carried out of there on a stretcher with an IV stuck in his arm because everyone is a little tired of martyrs and it makes it just too easy for our late night comdedians.


How long has he been a senator? 9 months?
I think he just beat Obama's record for thinking he knows everything and is ready for the big leagues.

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Lyndi wrote:
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He's copycatting Rand Paul's moment on center stage with the drone strikes filibuster which gave him temporary top billing among republicans and a whole bunch of disco lights.
This probably isn't going to stop Obamacare and it's probably not going to shut down the government but just in case, if it does shut down government, you might want to duck.
I think it's just another highwire walk. Tea party members might have glory, glory hallelugah playing in their heads every time they see the guy for awhile but I'm pretty sure when the show's over and it's discovered that the hand wringing anticipation was all for naught, it'll just end with a soft thud. I do hope he isn't carried out of there on a stretcher with an IV stuck in his arm because everyone is a little tired of martyrs and it makes it just too easy for our late night comdedians.
How long has he been a senator? 9 months?
I think he just beat Obama's record for thinking he knows everything and is ready for the big leagues.
Just who are the big leagues Lyndi, McCain, Pelosi, Reid, and all the others that have been at this so long that they are just embalmed? They walk and they talk but they don't think and they sure don't care what happens to the american people. If Obama with his total lack of experience was in the least bit consistent he might be a success today. But he's not only inexperienced he's selfish and somewhat crooked.
I don't know for sure what I think of Cruz yet , but he is using a legal, last ditch effort to get rid of that abominable healthcare law.

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Chris Clearwater wrote:
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Like this?
When the Founders wrote the Constitution, they intended to signify the importance and power of each branch of government in the order that the powers are granted. The Founders saw the legislative branch as the most powerful of the three with the executive being weaker and the judicial branch being the weakest. It was the intention of the Founders for the judicial branch to serve as a final backstop against oversteps of government power.
Not thinking many in government at this time seem to be such a fan. Like the dear leader that makes end runs around other parts of our government because he just knows whats best. Example epa madness.
How many times have you seen me rail bitterly (oh lis is gonna love that one) against the executive power boost gained with the signing of the 'Patriot Act' and the NDAA? Bunches, that's how many. I'm not a fan of our current President or his policies with regard to expansion of Executive power - any more than you are. But Congress has gone insane. JMO

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