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So this story of life in America will make you happy and cry. If this young man is a reflection I have more hope today than yesterday.
A Minnesota Dairy Queen has been swarmed with dozens of phone calls, hundreds of comments and an influx of business after a story about their 19-year-old manager's courageous defense of a blind man went viral on Reddit.
Joey Prusak, who has been working at the popular fast-food restaurant for nearly five years, told TheBlaze Wednesday he was "shocked" and "sickened" by what he saw happen to a blind man at the hands of an elderly lady.
Prusak said that last Tuesday, one of his frequent guests, a man who is blind, walked into the local Dairy Queen. When the blind man took out his wallet to pay, a $20 bill slipped out of his pocket. An elderly woman behind the blind man then quickly snatched the bill off the floor and put it into her purse.
"She walked up to the counter and I asked her to please return the $20 bill to the gentleman. She looked at me like 'what are you talking about,'" Prusak said, recounting the incident to TheBlaze. "I asked her again to return it and she said,'No, it's mine I just dropped it.' I told her I'm not going to serve you if you are going to be disrespectful as you are stealing someone's money like that."
"She started getting really angry ... started swearing and whatnot. I stayed relatively calm, I deal with customers on a daily basis. She kept swearing though and I asked her to leave the store. I told her if you aren't going to return the money, you need to leave right now."
"What happened next I would have never expected," an anonymous customer wrote to Dairy Queen, which was later posted on Reddit, sending the story viral. "Your employee approached the young man and took out his wallet and said,'Sir, on behalf of Dairy Queen, I would like to give you the $20 that you happened to drop on the ground as you walked away from the counter.'"
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One of the destroyers I was on was home-ported out of the Philadelphia Naval Shipyards. I often ate in a deli known as 'Blind Man's' on the base.(Best sub sandwiches I ever had, and at a fair price). Everyone working in the deli was blind, sandwich makers, cashiers, everyone.

You told them what you wanted, they made it, quickly, and took your order to the cashier, letting them know what it was. The cashier told you the price, and you told them what paper denomination you were giving them. It was an honesty based system, to a point. Occasionally, not often, the cashier would hold up the bill, and holler out what the customer had said the value was... the sighted customers would verbally verify the denomination.

In my many trips to Blind Man's, I never once saw anyone try to get over on those blind folks. I'm not sure it was all due to honesty, possibly it was due more to the fear of what the sailors and yard workers would have done to them if they had tried.

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One of the destroyers I was on was home-ported out of the Philadelphia Naval Shipyards. I often ate in a deli known as 'Blind Man's' on the base.(Best sub sandwiches I ever had, and at a fair price). Everyone working in the deli was blind, sandwich makers, cashiers, everyone.
You told them what you wanted, they made it, quickly, and took your order to the cashier, letting them know what it was. The cashier told you the price, and you told them what paper denomination you were giving them. It was an honesty based system, to a point. Occasionally, not often, the cashier would hold up the bill, and holler out what the customer had said the value was... the sighted customers would verbally verify the denomination.
In my many trips to Blind Man's, I never once saw anyone try to get over on those blind folks. I'm not sure it was all due to honesty, possibly it was due more to the fear of what the sailors and yard workers would have done to them if they had tried.
Wow. Sounds like it was a great place. I do think that society in general is going in the wrong direction. But then the kid makes me wonder. One thing I've been witness to is the amount of people that will willingly vote for the guy that says I'll give you a free lunch. Logic says somebody has to pay but its clear about half the nation doesn't care.

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Admiral Mullen: "The military did everything they possibly could that night. They just couldn't get there in time."
I see Admiral Mullen was privy to al-Qaida's attack schedule, knowing ahead of time when al-Qaida would end the attack. The minute I read someone saying that there wasn't enough time to send in troops, my mind immediately screams COVER-UP!
The truth is, the troops should have been sent. If they got there late, at least they would have tried to save the Consulate and our American citizens. What the good Admiral is trying to sell us is that he knew when the attack would end, and he knew we couldn't have troops there by then.
It's a COVER-UP, not a phony scandal!
A cover-up is mighty scandalous. Phony is not my word, it's Hip's. I forgot you don't read his posts.

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<quoted text>A cover-up is mighty scandalous. Phony is not my word, it's Hip's. I forgot you don't read his posts.
Actually, I did read some of that one. I was curious what it was that you were replying to, and saw that it was Admiral Mullin's testimony. I browsed through it, and locked right in on his CYA cover-up statement. Sad to say, the good Admiral appears to be part of the Benghazi cover-up.

So, let me revise my statement. I occasionally will read one of WIR's or Hip's posts, when I'm curious about what someone else's reply is commenting on, usually for clarity, like that one.

How about if I say I hardly ever read one of WIR's or Hip's posts. I should know that never and always are absolutes that are best not used.
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<quoted text>BUT FOR Hillary Clinton's incompetence and gross negligence on security at Benghazi, the attack might have been averted and 4 Americans might not be dead.
Bless your honesty.

Because THIS is what it's about, and always has been. It ain't got nothing to do with security. When asked about security and process fixes, various Republicans have said, "We'll deal with that after...". After, they said.

And it's got nothing to do with brave Americans, three of which not one in 10,000 can even name, even after 13 months of ravenous attention. Nothing at all to do with their lives, and tragic deaths. Never did.

It's all to do with, "How can we keep these bodies from mouldering just long enough to turn their deaths to political advantage?"

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Democrats don't seem very interested in finding out what caused the deaths of four Americans in Benghazi, or about the lies that were being told to the American people afterward. Democrats seem to be more interested in covering-up, than in the investigation.
Thought you would like to see this.

The members of the committee who walked out today:

Rep. Carolyn B. Maloney, New York
Rep. Eleanor Holmes Norton, District of Columbia
Rep. John F. Tierney, Massachusetts
Rep. Wm. Lacy Clay, Missouri
Rep. Stephen F. Lynch, Massachusetts
Rep. Jim Cooper, Tennessee
Rep. Gerald E. Connolly, Virginia
Rep. Matt Cartwright, Pennsylvannia
Rep. Mark Pocan, Wisconsin
Rep. Tammy Duckworth, Illinois
Rep. Danny K. Davis, Illinois
Rep. Robin Kelly, Illinois
Rep. Peter Welch, Vermont
Rep. Tony Cardenas, California
Rep. Steven Horsford, Nevada
Rep. Michelle Lujan Grisham, New Mexico

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<quoted text>Bless your honesty.
Because THIS is what it's about, and always has been. It ain't got nothing to do with security. When asked about security and process fixes, various Republicans have said, "We'll deal with that after...". After, they said.
And it's got nothing to do with brave Americans, three of which not one in 10,000 can even name, even after 13 months of ravenous attention. Nothing at all to do with their lives, and tragic deaths. Never did.
It's all to do with, "How can we keep these bodies from mouldering just long enough to turn their deaths to political advantage?"
You are just so wrong. We can tolerate the cheating and the lying and the blow jobs and the broken promises until someone dies for those things. Benghazi is the only thing I care about. The rest is just politics as usual.
If anyone could have used it to political advantage it would have been Romney but he refused to do so. You may be able to imagine people using dead sons, husbands and brothers as pawns but it is totally off my radar screen and I think it is off those who are trying to get to the bottom of this.
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<quoted text>Seems to me that for someone who thinks Benghazi is a "phony" scandal you are working very hard to prove someone's innocence, I'm not sure who. Since in a court of law or any investigation it is up to those who think there is guilt to prove that. Well if they do prove it, they just....do.
I am quite aware of the dual tactics of dismissing an opposing view with the old faithful blanket statement, "Oh you're just in the tank for >fill-in-the-blank< ", while trying to maneuver the opposition into self-defense rather than have to actually argue a position with facts. It's a tired tactic of those with little else in the fact-based arsenal. But I'll admit all too often they do work, so I can see where one might resort to them almost exclusively. I realize it's unsporting of me, but I'm sorry, Hippy don't play dat.

My particular interest is and always has been to rebut willful ignorance and gratuitous smear, from my first day here. I've done the same any way it flies, as I did against the 9/11 truthers, the Impeach Bush screamers, and the My Pet Goat squealers. I've said it a hundred times - in a representative democracy, we get the government we deserve. We can't say a word about lies in government when we engage and tolerate it amongst ourselves. But we do anyway,'cos we got our rahts. Right? So, Big Surprise! Our government is just like us!

It ain't up to me all the chimp-scat has only been flying one way the last five years. I'm just doin' my thing any ol' way. A'ight?

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<quoted text>You are just so wrong. We can tolerate the cheating and the lying and the blow jobs and the broken promises until someone dies for those things. Benghazi is the only thing I care about. The rest is just politics as usual.
If anyone could have used it to political advantage it would have been Romney but he refused to do so. You may be able to imagine people using dead sons, husbands and brothers as pawns but it is totally off my radar screen and I think it is off those who are trying to get to the bottom of this.
It's because using the pain and suffering of survivors is off the radar screen of most people that it works so well.

It's something that would be on the radar screen of some, perhaps many, politicians, lisw: liberal, Republican, conservative, Democrat, or any mutation thereof.

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<quoted text> I am quite aware of the dual tactics of dismissing an opposing view with the old faithful blanket statement, "Oh you're just in the tank for >fill-in-the-blank< ", while trying to maneuver the opposition into self-defense rather than have to actually argue a position with facts. It's a tired tactic of those with little else in the fact-based arsenal. But I'll admit all too often they do work, so I can see where one might resort to them almost exclusively. I realize it's unsporting of me, but I'm sorry, Hippy don't play dat.
My particular interest is and always has been to rebut willful ignorance and gratuitous smear, from my first day here. I've done the same any way it flies, as I did against the 9/11 truthers, the Impeach Bush screamers, and the My Pet Goat squealers. I've said it a hundred times - in a representative democracy, we get the government we deserve. We can't say a word about lies in government when we engage and tolerate it amongst ourselves. But we do anyway,'cos we got our rahts. Right? So, Big Surprise! Our government is just like us!
It ain't up to me all the chimp-scat has only been flying one way the last five years. I'm just doin' my thing any ol' way. A'ight?
I didn't know that Benghazi was about YOU, but okay.
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lisw wrote:
<quoted text>You are just so wrong. We can tolerate the cheating and the lying and the blow jobs and the broken promises until someone dies for those things. Benghazi is the only thing I care about. The rest is just politics as usual.

If anyone could have used it to political advantage it would have been Romney but he refused to do so. You may be able to imagine people using dead sons, husbands and brothers as pawns but it is totally off my radar screen and I think it is off those who are trying to get to the bottom of this.
I'm sorry, but I have to call call bullsh!t.

There have been nine (9) "Congressional investigations" thus far. Tell me please, what security revisions enhancements have resulted? Name just one. And tell me what Republican members say when asked. I'll bet you haven't a clue. Here's a clue: "After....".

Romney refused to do so? Are you serious? Do you really have that short a memory, or are you auditioning for O'Reilly as a "fact-checker"? News from the campaign trail: Romney was waving the bloody shirt while the bodies were still warm! C'mon.......

Listen, it would be one thing if something/anything substantive had resulted from 9 (nine) investigations by now. But it has not, because Issa et al don't want it to, because they know you all don't really care about truth. All anyone wants to do is parade around some dead bodies whose names are largely forgotten for at least 2 more years and chant, "Scandal, scandal, sis-boom-bah, scandal, scandal, rah-rah-rah!". When the majority release their report first, not to the ranking members of the minority, but to Fox News, what does that say to you?

Two lifelong dedicated civil servants testified today, and their pertinent testimony was posted. Without knowing anything more about these individuals, you all immediately joined in chorus, "Cover-up!" You all don't want truth, you want political blood. Are you actually oblivious to how the accusations have morphed from Obama to Clinton? Which one may or may not be running for something before long?

C'mon, at least Valynda is honest about it.

Here's more fodder for your "Cover-up!". This time from the Stevens family:

“Chris was not willing to be the kind of diplomat who would strut around in fortified compounds. He amazed and impressed the Libyans by walking the streets with the lightest of escorts, sitting in sidewalk cafes, chatting with passers-by. There was a risk to being accessible. He knew it, and he accepted it.

What Chris never would have accepted was the idea that his death would be used for political purposes......

Chris would not have wanted to be remembered as a victim. Chris knew, and accepted, that he was working under dangerous circumstances. He did so — just as so many of our diplomatic and development professionals do every day — because he believed the work was vitally important. He would have wanted the critical work he was doing to build bridges of mutual understanding and respect — the kind of work that made him literally thousands of friends and admirers across the broader Middle East — to continue.”

I know, I know. Obama/Clinton got to them too. Cover-up!!
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<quoted text>I didn't know that Benghazi was about YOU, but okay.
Like clockwork.....

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<quoted text>I'm sorry, but I have to call call bullsh!t.
There have been nine (9) "Congressional investigations" thus far. Tell me please, what security revisions enhancements have resulted? Name just one. And tell me what Republican members say when asked. I'll bet you haven't a clue. Here's a clue: "After....".
Romney refused to do so? Are you serious? Do you really have that short a memory, or are you auditioning for O'Reilly as a "fact-checker"? News from the campaign trail: Romney was waving the bloody shirt while the bodies were still warm! C'mon.......
Listen, it would be one thing if something/anything substantive had resulted from 9 (nine) investigations by now. But it has not, because Issa et al don't want it to, because they know you all don't really care about truth. All anyone wants to do is parade around some dead bodies whose names are largely forgotten for at least 2 more years and chant, "Scandal, scandal, sis-boom-bah, scandal, scandal, rah-rah-rah!". When the majority release their report first, not to the ranking members of the minority, but to Fox News, what does that say to you?
Two lifelong dedicated civil servants testified today, and their pertinent testimony was posted. Without knowing anything more about these individuals, you all immediately joined in chorus, "Cover-up!" You all don't want truth, you want political blood. Are you actually oblivious to how the accusations have morphed from Obama to Clinton? Which one may or may not be running for something before long?
C'mon, at least Valynda is honest about it.
Here's more fodder for your "Cover-up!". This time from the Stevens family:
“Chris was not willing to be the kind of diplomat who would strut around in fortified compounds. He amazed and impressed the Libyans by walking the streets with the lightest of escorts, sitting in sidewalk cafes, chatting with passers-by. There was a risk to being accessible. He knew it, and he accepted it.
What Chris never would have accepted was the idea that his death would be used for political purposes......
Chris would not have wanted to be remembered as a victim. Chris knew, and accepted, that he was working under dangerous circumstances. He did so — just as so many of our diplomatic and development professionals do every day — because he believed the work was vitally important. He would have wanted the critical work he was doing to build bridges of mutual understanding and respect — the kind of work that made him literally thousands of friends and admirers across the broader Middle East — to continue.”
I know, I know. Obama/Clinton got to them too. Cover-up!!
And another family member said that she saw finger marks on a wall in blood and just wanted to know if they were her son's. She just wants to know what happened. I think she deserves to know. I wouldn't have given this as much scrutiny if from the get go there were not lies. Everyone including Obama knew immediately it was not a tape. To dishonor those who died with a lie because it was election time is unforgivable. Talk about making it political.
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The House Benghazi Inquisition Committee demanded an internal State investigation, and when they got it, they implicitly demanded they go back and don't return until they had a President or Presidential candidate on a pike.

Virginia Congressman Gerald Connolly, who just lost three constituents at the Navy Yard, expressed disappointment at House Republicans’ persistence to find fault in the Accountability Review Board’s report.“I don’t remember any investigation [after the 1983 Lebanon embassy bombing], I don’t remember any charges, I don’t remember the Democrats exploiting Ronald Reagan’s management of that incident. We understood it was a national tragedy, and we tried to come together,” Connolly said.

He added about the continuing Benghazi investigation,“The agenda isn’t getting at the truth, it’s getting at somebody.”
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<quoted text>And another family member said that she saw finger marks on a wall in blood and just wanted to know if they were her son's. She just wants to know what happened. I think she deserves to know. I wouldn't have given this as much scrutiny if from the get go there were not lies. Everyone including Obama knew immediately it was not a tape. To dishonor those who died with a lie because it was election time is unforgivable. Talk about making it political.
The fact that you choose not to respond to any point made that doesn't have an answer that conforms to your "scandal" is just proof of what I'm saying. It's not expected that you would concede, but the fact that you staunchly refuse to even acknowledge any mitigating evidence at all is further proof. You don't want all pertinent facts, you want only factoids that conform to a predetermined conclusion.

For a year now, Issa and others have proclaimed the very next testimony was going to "blow the lid off". Just this Tuesday, again we were going to get "clear evidence" of a cover-up in Wednesday's testimony.

And every single time, when it turns out to more hot air, they immediately repeat "cover-up."

Some people honestly don't know when they're being played. Others just like the tune.

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These are creepy opt-out of obamacare ads, but funny.

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<quoted text>The fact that you choose not to respond to any point made that doesn't have an answer that conforms to your "scandal" is just proof of what I'm saying. It's not expected that you would concede, but the fact that you staunchly refuse to even acknowledge any mitigating evidence at all is further proof. You don't want all pertinent facts, you want only factoids that conform to a predetermined conclusion.
For a year now, Issa and others have proclaimed the very next testimony was going to "blow the lid off". Just this Tuesday, again we were going to get "clear evidence" of a cover-up in Wednesday's testimony.
And every single time, when it turns out to more hot air, they immediately repeat "cover-up."
Some people honestly don't know when they're being played. Others just like the tune.
Again about you. Really Hip I'm serious, you don't see how both those posts were not about facts or even opinions, they were about how you post with integrity and I don't respond line by line as you seem to think you deserve. That's hardly worth responding to.

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Hip you can continue to put your fingers in your ears and repeat over and over, "there was nothing wrong with Benghazi" but I'm just going to watch it unfold. You will not see anything wrong with the way this administration works. I know that so we have nothing to talk about.

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These are creepy opt-out of obamacare ads, but funny.
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<quoted text>Again about you. Really Hip I'm serious, you don't see how both those posts were not about facts or even opinions, they were about how you post with integrity and I don't respond line by line as you seem to think you deserve. That's hardly worth responding to.
From Hip's post:

"you staunchly refuse to even acknowledge any mitigating evidence at all is further proof. You don't want all pertinent facts, you want only factoids that conform to a predetermined conclusion."

I think it was more about YOU, than about him. And he's spot on about YOU, as usual.

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