Bush is a hero
UidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#168453 Sep 15, 2013
Lost In Transition wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you'd have to have insight into motive to put a final stamp on Snowden's actions. I believe what he did was right, but it could have been for nefarious reason. The fact that he must now hide in a communist nation of one flag or another says as much about this country as it does about him.
US is no Communist but Fascist nation , I mean empire , Use to draw out new right and those left wingers not of their kind!

Since: Sep 10

United States

#168454 Sep 15, 2013
UidiotRaceMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>US is no Communist but Fascist nation , I mean empire , Use to draw out new right and those left wingers not of their kind!
Hey, where is Clementia?
UidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#168455 Sep 15, 2013
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>Pardon, while I choke up the hairball you just projected down my esophagus....
Weirdo.
More like Hard to swallow. I being sarcastic! CreamPuff!:) BWAAHHHaaa

“Help Cecil Help!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#168456 Sep 15, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
<quoted text>
No. I'm simply showing that the NY Times will drop state secrets every bit as quickly as the media that you question should have journalistic protection, WikiLeaks.
I don't think a group of quasi-anarchist hackers who indiscriminately publish information just because they have it are entitled to the same protections as journalists working for the New York Times, Fox News, or even The Blaze.
BobinTX wrote:
<quoted text>
I saw obama nuke an unarmed American citizen, al-Awlaki, in the tiny, powerless country of Yemen. I'll bet he doesn't even consider such a thing against Snowden, who the administration also believes is an enemy of the USA, but is in Russia.
Not only is pResident obama not going to consider any kind of strike against Snowden, he put himself in a position to let President Putin show the entire World how powerless he was when the big guys called his bluff. Snowden knew where to go to be safe from barry's wrath.
Trying to connect or compare Snowden to al-Awlaki is silly.

Making an issue over the fact that Obama hasn't threatened Russia over accepting what amounts to a defector is ... I don't know what that is, since silly, absurd, and ridiculous (combined and cubed) don't even come close.

Not your best work, bobin.
UidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#168457 Sep 15, 2013
bad bob wrote:
<quoted text>
More borrrrrring gibberish. Forget about x,y,z and try learning
your A,B,C's! Miserable parrot.
I see the war hawk is screeching ignorance again . Like i Said English is a Second language according to World Economy model, its a dying species... learn MADarin!:)

“Help Cecil Help!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#168459 Sep 15, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
How do you feel about marriage between a heterosexual man and a lesbian?
Jeez .... just when I thought the attempt to prove a point about Obama using the fact that he hasn't threatened Russia over them accepting Snowden was going to be the dumbest, most pointless thing I read all day ...
UidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#168458 Sep 15, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, where is Clementia?
I hope Clementia is OK . You miss her , i know , same here!

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#168460 Sep 15, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't think a group of quasi-anarchist hackers who indiscriminately publish information just because they have it are entitled to the same protections as journalists working for the New York Times, Fox News, or even The Blaze.
<quoted text>Trying to connect or compare Snowden to al-Awlaki is silly.
Making an issue over the fact that Obama hasn't threatened Russia over accepting what amounts to a defector is ... I don't know what that is, since silly, absurd, and ridiculous (combined and cubed) don't even come close.
Not your best work, bobin.
So in order to be considered a journalist, with Constitutional protections, one must have corporate sponsorship, and report only from a 'non-anarchist' perspective...?
UidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#168461 Sep 15, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>1. The article isn't about the Pentagon Papers, although it does mention them.
2. I specifically mentioned Wikileaks and Manning, not Snowden and the NSA revelations. The article is relevant to the latter, not the former. My concern is the type of information released, and the difference between journalists and hackers.
3. The author of the article you linked to was very concerned about the release of information about NSA surveillance programs in 2006, but doesn't appear to have written about the Snowden revelations under this administration. A search of the author's name + Snowden does turn up a Facebook page questioning whether Snowden is a hero, traitor, or both. My money's on both, but if I had to pick one or the other it would be traitor because heroes don't run to Russia.
Interjecting here of the post adressed to BOBbin all over! What category you put Ron Paul , Dr Robert Craig...
UidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#168462 Sep 15, 2013
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>So in order to be considered a journalist, with Constitutional protections, one must have corporate sponsorship, and report only from a 'non-anarchist' perspective...?
i do think you got WWW on that one, he left his brain somewhere, you go girl.:)
Synch

Mendon, MA

#168463 Sep 15, 2013
So

“Rainbow: God's covenant ”

Since: May 07

Clearwater, FL

#168464 Sep 15, 2013
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>Sweet Cakes by Melissa shut down due to a severe drop in business, from former and potential clients who decided bigotry-free baked goods were more appealing than those with bigotry baked right in....she wasn't 'shut down', Chris...she was 'free marketed' out of existence...at least her store front was. She's now working out of her home, under another name.
Whatever you say. I have two friends that are business owners. One I know for sure would share this pov you call bigotry. In other words a pov you don't happen to agree with. Good thing for him he deals business to business so its doubtful he will ever have to deal with it. The other might one day if he dares to go off your reservation. If you hacks really had faith in a free market cowards like the mayor of Boston or a Chicago alderman wouldn't use the threat of government zoning or anything else to target a private business as happened recently.
UidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#168465 Sep 15, 2013
Chris Clearwater wrote:
<quoted text>
Whatever you say. I have two friends that are business owners. One I know for sure would share this pov you call bigotry. In other words a pov you don't happen to agree with. Good thing for him he deals business to business so its doubtful he will ever have to deal with it. The other might one day if he dares to go off your reservation. If you hacks really had faith in a free market cowards like the mayor of Boston or a Chicago alderman wouldn't use the threat of government zoning or anything else to target a private business as happened recently.
Come on you right wing fundie Republickcans Enjoy Corporatism !
UidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#168466 Sep 15, 2013
Synch wrote:
So
Enjoy! WHAHAhahaaaaa So?

Since: Sep 10

United States

#168467 Sep 15, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>Jeez .... just when I thought the attempt to prove a point about Obama using the fact that he hasn't threatened Russia over them accepting Snowden was going to be the dumbest, most pointless thing I read all day ...
To each his own.

My post was for Clearwater anyway.
UidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#168468 Sep 15, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
<quoted text>
U.S. Constitution - Amendment 1
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
It appears that the founding fathers thought the definition of a 'non-journalist' would be anybody that doesn't report news for others to view, or doesn't have any viewers of the news they report. They didn't seem to think that size mattered.
How about if we define 'journalist' as 'a person writing or reporting for a media where the customer base is increasing'?
Do you love this brilliant man?

Noam Chomsky, Collateral language,
To say "I'm an embedded journalist" is to say "I'm a government propagandist.”
UidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#168469 Sep 15, 2013
Bill Kovach, chairman of the Committee of Concerned Journalists
Citizens of Empire,
The Struggle to Claim Our Humanity
by Robert Jensen, p39

A journalist is never more true to democracy - is never more engaged as a citizen, is never more patriotic - than when aggressively doing the job of independently verifying the news of the day; questioning the actions of those in authority; disclosing information the public needs but others wish secret for self-interested purposes
UidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#168470 Sep 15, 2013
spokesman of a group of Russian journalists who were touring the United States during Cold War
The Unseen Lies: Journalism As Propaganda
by John Pilger
The following is a transcript of a talk given by John Pilger at Socialism 2007 Conference in Chicago
DemocracyNow.org , August 8, 2007
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Cold War, Russian journalists
media
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I have to tell you that we were astonished to find after reading all the newspapers and watching TV day after day that all the opinions on all the vital issues are the same. To get that result in our country we send journalists to the gulag. We even tear out their fingernails. Here you don't have to do any of that. What is the secret?
UidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#168471 Sep 15, 2013
John Pilger, The Unseen Lies: Journalism As Propaganda
The following is a transcript of a talk given by John Pilger at Socialism 2007 Conference in Chicago

Journalists ought to be agents of truth, not the courtiers of power.
UidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#168472 Sep 15, 2013
Arundhati Roy, An Ordinary Person's Guide to Empire, p57


The era of manufacturing consent has given way to the era of manufacturing news. Soon media newsrooms will drop the pretense, and start hiring theater directors instead of journalists.

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