“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#167269 Aug 27, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
<quoted text>
It does get tougher and tougher to try to defend the obama administration's foreign policies, doesn't it? Better to just stay mum, and hope the media lets them pass.
Thinking back, I can name numerous obama foreign policy failures, but I can't think of one of barry's foreign policy successes.
I'm hoping Obama attacks Syria, and kills Assad. That can only help the Republicans during the next 2 election cycles,(next year and 2016). And Obama's base will be lookin' to mount his head on a pole.

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#167270 Aug 27, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Stop dodging and make a policy recommendation.
I did.
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T2LK4SO...

“2016 No Clinton No Bush!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#167271 Aug 27, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
<quoted text>
It does get tougher and tougher to try to defend the obama administration's foreign policies, doesn't it? Better to just stay mum, and hope the media lets them pass.
Thinking back, I can name numerous obama foreign policy failures, but I can't think of one of barry's foreign policy successets.
If there's anything this exchange proves, it's that you have no patience, and that you don't need an actual response from me to read from your script.

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#167272 Aug 27, 2013
bad bob wrote:
<quoted text>
I'd agree if Assad hadn't chose to gas innocent men women, and children. That can't be allowed in a civilized society.
Are you absolutely sure it was the Assad regime? I'm not. Folks in those parts are notorious for creating incidents to gain support for their cause. That would be a small price to pay to get the US to take out the Assad regime... especially if the people paying the price weren't your people.

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#167273 Aug 27, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you absolutely sure it was the Assad regime? I'm not. Folks in those parts are notorious for creating incidents to gain support for their cause. That would be a small price to pay to get the US to take out the Assad regime... especially if the people paying the price weren't your people.
You could be right of course. The talking heads who are much better connected to people that know, have said they have no doubt it was Assad.

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#167274 Aug 27, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>If there's anything this exchange proves, it's that you have no patience, and that you don't need an actual response from me to read from your script.
I didn't expect you to answer, I was using you to show the weakness of this administration's probable unilateral Syrian policy. A policy that they are currently talking up a case for, without Congressional consent, or UN support.

The Syrian rebels, whomever they are, have obama right where they want him... having to take hasty action against their foe, to defend his "red line" statement.

It's been almost a year since the Benghazi fiasco, and even with a friendly Libyan government, and our own administration, we still don't have answers as to what happened. But, in about a week, with an unfriendly government, and no independent verification, we somehow have enough information to consider engaging in an act of war with Syria... I don't think so.

“2016 No Clinton No Bush!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#167275 Aug 27, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't expect you to answer, I was using you to show the weakness of this administration's probable unilateral Syrian policy. A policy that they are currently talking up a case for, without Congressional consent, or UN support.
The Syrian rebels, whomever they are, have obama right where they want him... having to take hasty action against their foe, to defend his "red line" statement.
It's been almost a year since the Benghazi fiasco, and even with a friendly Libyan government, and our own administration, we still don't have answers as to what happened. But, in about a week, with an unfriendly government, and no independent verification, we somehow have enough information to consider engaging in an act of war with Syria... I don't think so.
Even if the intent of your phony 'questions' hadn't been so obvious, I don't see much point in discussing a possible U.S. response to events in the Middle East with someone so clueless that they think the U.S. had any leverage in Egypt re Mubarak, or in Iraq re continued presence of U.S. troops.

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#167276 Aug 28, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>Even if the intent of your phony 'questions' hadn't been so obvious, I don't see much point in discussing a possible U.S. response to events in the Middle East with someone so clueless that they think the U.S. had any leverage in Egypt re Mubarak, or in Iraq re continued presence of U.S. troops.
Good point. With pResident obama, we no longer have the influence we once had. Assad would have had nothing to fear militarily from the US... except obama's hand is being forced to defend his silly "red line" statement.

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#167277 Aug 28, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
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Are you absolutely sure it was the Assad regime? I'm not. Folks in those parts are notorious for creating incidents to gain support for their cause. That would be a small price to pay to get the US to take out the Assad regime... especially if the people paying the price weren't your people.
oh....the irony....it's...it's...it's got its own zip code....

Bear in mind, I agree that we shouldn't be bombing Syria..
Lost In Transition

United States

#167278 Aug 28, 2013
Hot off the press from Reuters:

"New York Times, Huffington Post, Twitter hacked by Syrian group."

They found time to squeeze in a little hacking between the bombs, bullets and chemical attacks. Seriously Reuters, and your government sources, this would be hilarious if people weren't about to die.
HipGnozizzz

Altona, IL

#167280 Aug 28, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
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I didn't expect you to answer, I was using you
In other words, you were saying, "Ab-bot!" A good straight man is priceless, even if the punch lines are scripted.

When I finally figured out that virtually everything off your collective memo are all desperate bizarro-world attempts to find parallels to the previous admin's abject failures, it's just been a hoot ever since.

“Rainbow: God's covenant ”

Since: May 07

Clearwater and Honolulu

#167281 Aug 28, 2013
Woman brutally beaten by group of teens in North Side says attack was ‘racially motivated’

http://www.wpxi.com/news/news/woman-brutally-...

‘I Will Miss Him Every Day’: Chris Lane’s Father Gives Heartbreaking Speech at His Son’s Funeral

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/08/28/i-...

One of the two teenagers charged with murdering a World War II veteran is reportedly claiming they were buying crack cocaine from the 88-year-old man when the exchange turned violent, according to NBC News.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/08/28/ac...

“Rainbow: God's covenant ”

Since: May 07

Clearwater and Honolulu

#167282 Aug 28, 2013
Burn Nidal Hassan burn.

Fort Hood Shooter Maj. Nidal Hassan Sentenced to Death

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/08/28/ft...

“2016 No Clinton No Bush!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#167283 Aug 28, 2013
For what it's worth, if it is determined that WMD were used and it was Assad's forces who used them, I think the U.S. HAS to launch military strikes to damage his military infrastructure and command & control capabilities.

Under the law, the President can initiate this action, and is required to brief Congress. He is required to obtain Congressional approval if U.S. forces are going to be engaged for longer than 60 days (+ 30 for withdrawal). I can't foresee any circumstances where he would have to go to Congress for such approval.

I don't know that this will have a significant impact on the Syrian civil war - but that's not the point. The use of WMDs is the point, and how we proceed from here is something being watched very carefully in Damascus - and Terran.
Lost In Transition

Lake Wales, FL

#167284 Aug 28, 2013
Chris Clearwater wrote:
Burn Nidal Hassan burn.
Fort Hood Shooter Maj. Nidal Hassan Sentenced to Death
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/08/28/ft...
I don't think we burn em anymore.
Pretty sure we use blow-guns armed with Cheetos.

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#167285 Aug 28, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
For what it's worth, if it is determined that WMD were used and it was Assad's forces who used them, I think the U.S. HAS to launch military strikes to damage his military infrastructure and command & control capabilities.
Under the law, the President can initiate this action, and is required to brief Congress. He is required to obtain Congressional approval if U.S. forces are going to be engaged for longer than 60 days (+ 30 for withdrawal). I can't foresee any circumstances where he would have to go to Congress for such approval.
I don't know that this will have a significant impact on the Syrian civil war - but that's not the point. The use of WMDs is the point, and how we proceed from here is something being watched very carefully in Damascus - and Terran.
I've begun to suspect that an attack with WMD's is meant to make us react, a plan. And that we buy right into it. Even if they hope we'll attack and that they can reciprocate, at us or Israel, I guess I still think we need to, but I sure don't see a good outcome.

“2016 No Clinton No Bush!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#167286 Aug 28, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>I've begun to suspect that an attack with WMD's is meant to make us react, a plan. And that we buy right into it. Even if they hope we'll attack and that they can reciprocate, at us or Israel, I guess I still think we need to, but I sure don't see a good outcome.
I don't see an up side to the Syrians for "drawing us in".

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#167287 Aug 28, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>I don't see an up side to the Syrians for "drawing us in".
Not to the Syrians but I can see Assad thinking there is an upside. Iran is an ally. If he can unite his own country and Iran against the US and possibly Israel he could be the leader of the "mother of all wars." Iran conceivably could have a nuclear weapon. Makes ME nervous. And before you say they are no match (or anyone says it) for the US military, when's the last time we won a war.?

“2016 No Clinton No Bush!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#167288 Aug 28, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>Not to the Syrians but I can see Assad thinking there is an upside. Iran is an ally. If he can unite his own country and Iran against the US and possibly Israel he could be the leader of the "mother of all wars." Iran conceivably could have a nuclear weapon. Makes ME nervous. And before you say they are no match (or anyone says it) for the US military, when's the last time we won a war.?
That's a very interesting theory.

Whenever military action is undertaken there's reason to be nervous, particularly if attacks are made by aircraft instead of missiles. There's also a possibility of an indirect response against Israel a la Saddam's Scud attacks in '91.

Since Assad is likely to win the civil war even if we take out his command and control systems, and since the Iranians are lots of things but not suicidal ... I don't see much chance of the 'mother of all wars' or the use of nuclear weapons.

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#167290 Aug 28, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
For what it's worth, if it is determined that WMD were used and it was Assad's forces who used them, I think the U.S. HAS to launch military strikes to damage his military infrastructure and command & control capabilities.
Under the law, the President can initiate this action, and is required to brief Congress. He is required to obtain Congressional approval if U.S. forces are going to be engaged for longer than 60 days (+ 30 for withdrawal). I can't foresee any circumstances where he would have to go to Congress for such approval.
I don't know that this will have a significant impact on the Syrian civil war - but that's not the point. The use of WMDs is the point, and how we proceed from here is something being watched very carefully in Damascus - and Terran.
I think I'm going to agree. Assad, or someone in Syria, pulled a Saddam Hussein and used chemical weapons on the citizens that opposed them. As we can't be sure who the bad guy(s) were,(the UN inspectors haven't even started their investigation, I think we should take actions to ensure we get the culprit. obama is trying to reduce our stockpile of nukes, why not dispose of a bunch of them in Syria... problem solved. Whomever used the chemical weapons would be vaporized.

That would send a message to the world that barry does have the cojones that nobody believed he had.

While we're at it, Iran doesn't like us either, and are quickly developing WMD's. Why not reduce some more of our pesky nuclear arsenal in Iran? Which reminds me, didn't we also have a problem in Eastern Libya, Benghazi? Time for a little payback.

And what about those Taliban folks in Afghanistan... hmmmm? The only problem is they keep hauling freight back into Western Pakistan when threatened. A minor problem just hitting Western Pakistan, because Pakistan has nukes. We'd have to do a lightning strike, but it would have to be on both East and West Pakistan to ensure no nuclear retaliations.

We have a lot of nukes to get rid of, did I miss anyone?

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