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Lashing out now, huh. Temper temper.
The latest iteration of the 'whackadork' seems a little mushy in the throwing arm...you might want to tweak that mainspring a bit, bob.

Just a thought...

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Yeah. He's a regular HOOT ain't he?
Much to your evident chagrin, and pooly disguised envy, there ain't much 'regular' about HipG...

Eat your heart out, bob...you ol' regular guy you...

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<quoted text>Well, for my part, somebody finally introduced a topic that engendered a bit of discussion rather than partisan angst and ad personum bile.
'Preciate dat.
De nada.

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lisw wrote:
<quoted text>Keep saying it. Maybe if you say it often enough it will become true.(patting your hand)
Cloying condescension aside, this is why I said I doubt we'd be able to have this discussion on the same plane. I'm talking about systems, and you're talking about personal interpretations. Over the years you are endearingly consistent. You may well take that the wrong way, and it can't be helped. I don't mean it so, but I won't demean you either with patronization, and never have, just for the pretense of rapport.

It's very simple, I think.
Define "capitalism".
Apply Occam's Razor, paring away everything unnecessary for it to function.
What's left?

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<quoted text>Cloying condescension aside, this is why I said I doubt we'd be able to have this discussion on the same plane. I'm talking about systems, and you're talking about personal interpretations. Over the years you are endearingly consistent. You may well take that the wrong way, and it can't be helped. I don't mean it so, but I won't demean you either with patronization, and never have, just for the pretense of rapport.
It's very simple, I think.
Define "capitalism".
Apply Occam's Razor, paring away everything unnecessary for it to function.
What's left?
Tsk, tsk now don't get personal there Hip. But seriously I took the discussion to a manageable level. In my masters program it was a valid way of testing, called single case design recognized by medical and government people alike. What is true for one often translates to the many, just as what is true for many often translates to the one. It also is quite useful in talking to people about their problems. Humanizing things is better I believe then the textbook approach. But then that is just my opinion. I was discussing with you Hip. I'm truly sorry that my method is not to your liking, but I was being quite serious. it's just a little petulant don't you think for you to say " I knew I couldn't discuss with you" without you looking at what your part might be in that.

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lisw wrote:
<quoted text>Tsk, tsk now don't get personal there Hip. But seriously I took the discussion to a manageable level. In my masters program it was a valid way of testing, called single case design recognized by medical and government people alike. What is true for one often translates to the many, just as what is true for many often translates to the one. It also is quite useful in talking to people about their problems. Humanizing things is better I believe then the textbook approach. But then that is just my opinion. I was discussing with you Hip. I'm truly sorry that my method is not to your liking, but I was being quite serious. it's just a little petulant don't you think for you to say " I knew I couldn't discuss with you" without you looking at what your part might be in that.
You started fine.

Then, your condescending tone kicked in.
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<quoted text>I'd be thrilled if you could give a definition of capitalism that doesn't embrace the pursuit, accumulation, and re-investment of wealth, i.e. "the love of money".
I would hope all would agree there is some modicum of humanity in Christianity. There is no humanity in capitalism. This is not a dig, but a simple definitive fact. Even the teabaggers saint Ayn Rand understood that. It's a scientific theory, with no more humanity than, say, electricity. It's humans that take both electricity and capitalism and make what they want of it, for better or worse. You can build an electric chair, or a surgical device, with electricity. Likewise with capitalism. In and of itself, it has no feeling, no sense of right/wrong, no humanity.
But at the core of it is "the love of money".
Bs. I've been blessed to do quite well in this system and can tell you I have no love of money. I even said that once in an interview, didn't get that job. I do agree that in itself it can be used for good or bad but feel its the closest thing on earth to let man pursue freedom. I would love it if people that speak of Jesus being a socialist would explain the parable of the talents to me.
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You started fine.
Then, your condescending tone kicked in.
Oh the irony

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lisw wrote:
<quoted text>Tsk, tsk now don't get personal there Hip. But seriously I took the discussion to a manageable level. In my masters program it was a valid way of testing, called single case design recognized by medical and government people alike. What is true for one often translates to the many, just as what is true for many often translates to the one. It also is quite useful in talking to people about their problems. Humanizing things is better I believe then the textbook approach. But then that is just my opinion. I was discussing with you Hip. I'm truly sorry that my method is not to your liking, but I was being quite serious. it's just a little petulant don't you think for you to say " I knew I couldn't discuss with you" without you looking at what your part might be in that.
"Keep saying it. Maybe if you say it often enough it will become true.(patting your hand)" isn't getting 'personal' there, Lis?

Deny it any way you like, but the pursuit of personal wealth is the fundamental concept inherent in capitalism. If you can point to some other fundamental concept of the capitalist credo, having nothing to do with 'money' or the pursuit of it, go ahead and do so - otherwise, I suppose, we can look forward to more hand-patting.

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<quoted text>Bs. I've been blessed to do quite well in this system and can tell you I have no love of money. I even said that once in an interview, didn't get that job. I do agree that in itself it can be used for good or bad but feel its the closest thing on earth to let man pursue freedom. I would love it if people that speak of Jesus being a socialist would explain the parable of the talents to me.
Please explain how 'let man pursue freedom' was one of Jesus' tenets.

In the parable of the talents, the third servant is a "whistle-blower" who has unmasked the 'joy of the master' for what it is, the profits of exploitation squandered in wasteful excess. He is punished for speaking the truth, not for failing to make a profit.

Ask and ye shall receive...doesn't mean you're going to like what you get, once you get it.

You're welcome, either way.
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bad bob wrote:
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So which is it, worthless troll? Yer not afraid to answer are ya?
Yer either an extreme peacenik like your pal, Global Idiot, or yer
a warmonger like the rest of us.
Deflections such as believing only in defense of country has NOTHING to do with it. Fairly easy question. Which one are you?
You have a Comprehension problem I'm neither. Defense is important for a nation than starting up wars on whims of what Corporatists and Corrupted /greedy Leaders wants as most time illegal overseas wars we morally and financially bankrupt a nation and incite growth of world of enemies. Have we all not learn from History of fall great empires (greedy and corrupted , that is nation overbuilding) caused it toppled from grace, like Ancient Rome/greece , Nazi Germany WW2, Weimer republic... what are ignorant and brainwashed? The US overseas wars is morally and financially US to trillions of US dollars a year and human tolled from civilians and Soldiers on both sides. While those in corrupted power and Affluent youngsters sit home and sent the many of my poor /mid class younger generation to fight for their immoral and illegal/stupid overseas wars for predatory corporatism/capitalism, and for greedy ill money world hegemonic agendas, and Manifest destiny and American Exceptionalism. So why don't you sent your whole family as fight in illegal wars and for cannon fodder. So war mongering dimwit? You kind our US war mongers/authoritarians are what is morally and financially is bankrupting US to tunes of trillion US dollars and human tolls on both sides because of US Immoral/illegal wars. So, you inhuman piece of war mongering/supporters scvms what you have to say for yourselves?

You really are a world warring moron! So, ignorant dimwit?
The war mongers/supporters Only the right wingers and Authoritarians 25% US population , as supporting implements of war-for-profiteering, war investments in war bonds/stocks and anything to do with illegal wars.
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<quoted text>Cloying condescension aside, this is why I said I doubt we'd be able to have this discussion on the same plane. I'm talking about systems, and you're talking about personal interpretations. Over the years you are endearingly consistent. You may well take that the wrong way, and it can't be helped. I don't mean it so, but I won't demean you either with patronization, and never have, just for the pretense of rapport.
It's very simple, I think.
Define "capitalism".
Apply Occam's Razor, paring away everything unnecessary for it to function.
What's left?
Most can't even distinguish there good and bad side to CapitalisM! She and few on here and most on these Form can not applied Critical reasoning skills.... Most Authoritarians/war mongers love predatory capitalism!
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<quoted text>"Keep saying it. Maybe if you say it often enough it will become true.(patting your hand)" isn't getting 'personal' there, Lis?
Deny it any way you like, but the pursuit of personal wealth is the fundamental concept inherent in capitalism. If you can point to some other fundamental concept of the capitalist credo, having nothing to do with 'money' or the pursuit of it, go ahead and do so - otherwise, I suppose, we can look forward to more hand-patting.
See my post addressed to HipG!
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<quoted text>You have a Comprehension problem I'm neither. Defense is important for a nation than starting up wars on whims of what Corporatists and Corrupted /greedy Leaders wants as most time illegal overseas wars we morally and financially bankrupt a nation and incite growth of world of enemies. Have we all not learn from History of fall great empires (greedy and corrupted , that is nation overbuilding) caused it toppled from grace, like Ancient Rome/greece , Nazi Germany WW2, Weimer republic... what are ignorant and brainwashed? The US overseas wars is morally and financially US to trillions of US dollars a year and human tolled from civilians and Soldiers on both sides. While those in corrupted power and Affluent youngsters sit home and sent the many of my poor /mid class younger generation to fight for their immoral and illegal/stupid overseas wars for predatory corporatism/capitalism, and for greedy ill money world hegemonic agendas, and Manifest destiny and American Exceptionalism. So why don't you sent your whole family as fight in illegal wars and for cannon fodder. So war mongering dimwit? You kind our US war mongers/authoritarians are what is morally and financially is bankrupting US to tunes of trillion US dollars and human tolls on both sides because of US Immoral/illegal wars. So, you inhuman piece of war mongering/supporters scvms what you have to say for yourselves?
You really are a world warring moron! So, ignorant dimwit?
The war mongers/supporters Only the right wingers and Authoritarians 25% US population , as supporting implements of war-for-profiteering, war investments in war bonds/stocks and anything to do with illegal wars.
... morally and financially bankrupted US*
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bad bob wrote:
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Oh but those are not MY extreme choices. Those choices belong to
yer troll pal Global Idiot. I mean c'mon chaser, he's only been parotting that for the last 5 years.(And yes I DO know you haven't been here that long). You've been around long enough to see what your pal spews up incessantly.
All of us are "somewhere in between" as you just stated. But YOU
are now officially a WARMONGER, and are now subject to the same
hacked-up-English insults as the rest of us.
ADD!~ Not everytime for 5 years , only if you or someone bring it up! As for 5 years like i said o talked about not just about wars but topic like economic, finance, politics, foreign policy, domestic news... Take yu BS and shovel up yo war mongering peabrian! BAHhahahhahaha Have a hiney melon! It good for you! HEHHEHHEHeheheeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEe eeee Hah ! mwBhahaahahahhaha

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UidiotRaceMAKEWORLD wrote:
<quoted text>Defense is important for a nation than starting up wars on whims of what Corporatists and Corrupted /greedy Leaders wants as most time illegal overseas wars we morally and financially bankrupt a nation and incite growth of world of enemies.
LIAR! Defending one's country has NOTHING to do with war, unless another country invades yours, IDIOT.

Other than that, YOU do not believe ANY war is justified for any reason. That's an extreme peacenik.[end of discussion]

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Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>Much to your evident chagrin, and pooly disguised envy, there ain't much 'regular' about HipG...
Eat your heart out, bob...you ol' regular guy you...
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Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!

I see you threw in the towel on your Conspiracy theory. Just team up with yer "mentor". Maybe he can pull your sorry adze outta the fire, Shovelface.

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Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!
I see you threw in the towel on your Conspiracy theory. Just team up with yer "mentor". Maybe he can pull your sorry adze outta the fire, Shovelface.
You're maturing well bob. Way to go.

As far as 'my' conspiracy theory goes, forbearing to further smack my head against the feet-thick wall of your complacency, seemed like a good idea at the time.

Perhaps I'll revisit it...you're welcome to hold your breath.

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UidiotRaceMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>See my post addressed to HipG!
Sorry pal, I still can't read Somali.

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Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>You just keep believing that, if it makes you feel better about yourself....
(patting your head.)
aaaaaaaaaaaaand cue bob.........
LOL! Lis nor anyone else "needs" my help. Unlike you, Lis shows class by ignoring your incendiary comments.

OTOH, I have NO class, and no such restrictions. It gives me great joy to poke red hot irons into faces of those that go outta their way to be a....what's that KEY word......oh yeah B1T@H!

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