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Aug 21, 2013
 
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>It ain't nothin. I just stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night....;)
Yer killin' me Smalls...

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Aug 21, 2013
 
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>I like money just fine, and so do you. Some like it less, many like it much, much more, but only the odd person you may know who lives "off the grid" is even close to truly independent.
Let me ask this - can one be "independent" in America without the pursuit of money? Can one of high ideals about humanity pursue money without making some compromises in principle along the way? When one sets out to be "independent", is it truly through their own efforts, or must they insert themselves into the system in order to achieve some semblance of "independence"? Unless you found your own secret gold-mine, exactly how "independent" are you?
I'm about as independent as you can get. Oh yes I know the gov't built those bridges and roads that I drive over to get what I need. but I also paid a boatload of taxes that hired those people that built those roads. In a modern society you use what is made available. I've always been a fan of the bartering system. As a counselor I would have gladly provided my services for a sack of potatoes or a chicken, but that isn't what has been established and I'm only one person. No I don't like money or love it. I like and love people. Money is just another bartering system.
Capitalism no matter the definition is a way for people to not only get what they need but what they want. The Obama administration is trying to establish a system that gives everyone not just what they need but what they want. Problem is that without capitalism you cannot create the kind of money that gives everyone what they want for free. And the people can't get those things without having to trade something for it.(barter) What they trade is their independence.

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#166962
Aug 21, 2013
 
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>Say it ain't so, Joe...
Boiling it back to the instigation of this topic, Capitalist and Christian ideals are incompatible as "belief systems", without extensive "interpretation". Cognitive dissonance at it's finest. Each is fingernails on a chalkboard to the other.

In my most humble opinion.

;)

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Aug 21, 2013
 
Catcher1 wrote:
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Heaven?
What's that?
Heaven's a place that I doubt you'll never see.

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Aug 21, 2013
 
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>In case anyone failed to get the memo, badbob has banged the gavel on what bushisms are fair game on the 'Bushisahero' thread, and which are not. Subtitles. That's the verdict.
Bam.
Contempt of court will result in a date with the newest edition of the Whackadork, or whatever whacking device bob decides to employ this week.
*eyeroll*
Lashing out now, huh. Temper temper.

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<quoted text>I'm about as independent as you can get. Oh yes I know the gov't built those bridges and roads that I drive over to get what I need. but I also paid a boatload of taxes that hired those people that built those roads. In a modern society you use what is made available. I've always been a fan of the bartering system. As a counselor I would have gladly provided my services for a sack of potatoes or a chicken, but that isn't what has been established and I'm only one person. No I don't like money or love it. I like and love people. Money is just another bartering system.
Capitalism no matter the definition is a way for people to not only get what they need but what they want. The Obama administration is trying to establish a system that gives everyone not just what they need but what they want. Problem is that without capitalism you cannot create the kind of money that gives everyone what they want for free. And the people can't get those things without having to trade something for it.(barter) What they trade is their independence.
Barter is still nothing more than an exchange of wealth at an arbitrary but agreed-upon relative value of the items and/or services exchanged.

Bringing it back to the basic question, capitalism is based upon the pursuit, accumulation, and re-investment of wealth. "Money" is only one form of Wealth, but the primary one in the modern capitalist system. Therefore, a capitalist system is fundamentally based upon "the love of money".

Is all I've been saying.

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Aug 21, 2013
 
Chris Clearwater wrote:
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We just went with Dish. Our cable system, Brighthouse owned by tw wouldn't fix 20 year old equipment.
Sounds about right. It almost seems like they're trying to down-size their customer base. We'll be changing services shortly... we were planning on switching even before Time-Warner dropped CBS.

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BobinTX wrote:
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Heaven's a place that I doubt you'll never see.
Will wonders never cease?! Sounds like TXbob is assured of your place in heaven, Catch!

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Aug 21, 2013
 
Catcher1 wrote:
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I'm sorry.
I have to reject your two extreme choices.
I'm certainly not a warmonger, and I'm not an "extreme peacenick" either.
I'm somewhere in between.
Oh but those are not MY extreme choices. Those choices belong to
yer troll pal Global Idiot. I mean c'mon chaser, he's only been parotting that for the last 5 years.(And yes I DO know you haven't been here that long). You've been around long enough to see what your pal spews up incessantly.

All of us are "somewhere in between" as you just stated. But YOU
are now officially a WARMONGER, and are now subject to the same
hacked-up-English insults as the rest of us.

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Aug 21, 2013
 
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>Yer killin' me Smalls...
Yeah. He's a regular HOOT ain't he?

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Aug 21, 2013
 
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>Barter is still nothing more than an exchange of wealth at an arbitrary but agreed-upon relative value of the items and/or services exchanged.
Bringing it back to the basic question, capitalism is based upon the pursuit, accumulation, and re-investment of wealth. "Money" is only one form of Wealth, but the primary one in the modern capitalist system. Therefore, a capitalist system is fundamentally based upon "the love of money".
Is all I've been saying.
Keep saying it. Maybe if you say it often enough it will become true.(patting your hand)

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#166971
Aug 21, 2013
 
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>Hell, bob, I might even SWOON.
Wanna watch?
Yea. Hold on a second while I get NSA to turn on your computer's camera.

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HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>Boiling it back to the instigation of this topic, Capitalist and Christian ideals are incompatible as "belief systems", without extensive "interpretation". Cognitive dissonance at it's finest. Each is fingernails on a chalkboard to the other.
In my most humble opinion.
;)
In any case, someone finally decided to discuss the ideas in the post I offered, without complaining that the shoe fit too tight....

'Preciate it.

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BobinTX wrote:
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Heaven's a place that I doubt you'll never see.
That's quite all right.

I have no need to believe in a heaven, or in any sort of afterlife.

I am comfortable and happy living the most fulfilling life I can, accepting that I have a limited time here and the time will come for all of us to depart and leave the future to our children.

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lisw wrote:
<quoted text>I'm about as independent as you can get.
You just keep believing that, if it makes you feel better about yourself....

(patting your head.)

aaaaaaaaaaaaand cue bob.........

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BobinTX wrote:
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Yea. Hold on a second while I get NSA to turn on your computer's camera.
I've had it covered with a swatch of duct tape ever since I first plugged this sucker in...have at it.

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Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>In any case, someone finally decided to discuss the ideas in the post I offered, without complaining that the shoe fit too tight....
'Preciate it.
:)
Well, for my part, somebody finally introduced a topic that engendered a bit of discussion rather than partisan angst and ad personum bile.

'Preciate dat.

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bad bob wrote:
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Oh but those are not MY extreme choices. Those choices belong to
yer troll pal Global Idiot. I mean c'mon chaser, he's only been parotting that for the last 5 years.(And yes I DO know you haven't been here that long). You've been around long enough to see what your pal spews up incessantly.
All of us are "somewhere in between" as you just stated. But YOU
are now officially a WARMONGER, and are now subject to the same
hacked-up-English insults as the rest of us.
I accept full responsibility for every one of my posts, but no responsibility whatsoever for anybody elses's posts. Not his, not yours, not anybody's.

The views expressed in my posts are mine alone. They do not necessarily reflect the views of this station or of any other poster.

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bad bob wrote:
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Lashing out now, huh. Temper temper.
The latest iteration of the 'whackadork' seems a little mushy in the throwing arm...you might want to tweak that mainspring a bit, bob.

Just a thought...

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bad bob wrote:
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Yeah. He's a regular HOOT ain't he?
Much to your evident chagrin, and pooly disguised envy, there ain't much 'regular' about HipG...

Eat your heart out, bob...you ol' regular guy you...

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