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“Help Cecil Help!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#165509 Jul 26, 2013
Pernrider wrote:
<quoted text>
I did answer saying he had THC in his system but it could be there from earlier that day or from having been a chronic weed smoker or both.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/nor...
My understanding of the autopsy results was that it was far longer than 24 hours. The measurements aren't as precise as alcohol, but they're getting better at reading them.

Of course, it may have been hidden in those removable gold caps. Yeah, that's the ticket.

“On a sailing ship to nowhere”

Since: Jun 07

Colorado

#165510 Jul 26, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>My understanding of the autopsy results was that it was far longer than 24 hours. The measurements aren't as precise as alcohol, but they're getting better at reading them.
Of course, it may have been hidden in those removable gold caps. Yeah, that's the ticket.
What was the number Willie?

“On a sailing ship to nowhere”

Since: Jun 07

Colorado

#165511 Jul 26, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>My understanding of the autopsy results was that it was far longer than 24 hours. The measurements aren't as precise as alcohol, but they're getting better at reading them.
Of course, it may have been hidden in those removable gold caps. Yeah, that's the ticket.
Found the numbers:
According to the autopsy report made public record by the Office of the Medial Examiner, the blood from Martin’s chest contained 1.5 ng/ML of THC, a drug commonly found in marijuana. There was about 7.3ng/mL of THC carboxy, the by-product of the body’s metabolism of THC.
Depending on the amount of THC consumed and the frequency in which it is consumed, THC carboxy can stay in a person’s system from somewhere between two weeks to a month, according to WBTV. THC itself can stay in the body for as long as four hours.

http://tampa.cbslocal.com/2012/05/18/autopsy-...

“On a sailing ship to nowhere”

Since: Jun 07

Colorado

#165512 Jul 26, 2013
Willie, there would be no way to definitely say that Trayvon had or had not smoked pot that day.

http://jat.oxfordjournals.org/content/25/7/53...

pp 2
The short plasma half-life of THC requires that blood must be collected within 2 h of use in order to have a detectable quantity of the cannabinoid present. Under the ideal circumstance of a rapid collection time, an individual would have to be actively smoking marijuana at the time of an adverse event in order to be able to measure meaningful concentrations of THC in plasma
UidiotraceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#165513 Jul 26, 2013
Interpretation of Blood Concentrations: It is difficult to establish a relationship between a person's THC blood or plasma concentration and performance impairing effects. Concentrations of parent drug and metabolite are very dependent on pattern of use as well as dose. THC concentrations typically peak during the act of smoking, while peak 11-OH THC concentrations occur approximately 9-23 minutes after the start of smoking. Concentrations of both analytes decline rapidly and are often < 5 ng/mL at 3 hours. Significant THC concentrations (7 to 18 ng/mL) are noted following even a single puff or hit of a marijuana cigarette. Peak plasma THC concentrations ranged from 46-188 ng/mL in 6 subjects after they smoked 8.8 mg THC over 10 minutes. Chronic users can have mean plasma levels of THC-COOH of 45 ng/mL, 12 hours after use; corresponding THC levels are, however, less than 1 ng/mL. Following oral administration, THC concentrations peak at 1-3 hours and are lower than after smoking. Dronabinol and THC-COOH are present in equal concentrations in plasma and concentrations peak at approximately 2-4 hours after dosing.

It is inadvisable to try and predict effects based on blood THC concentrations alone, and currently impossible to predict specific effects based on THC-COOH concentrations. It is possible for a person to be affected by marijuana use with concentrations of THC in their blood below the limit of detection of the method. Mathematical models have been developed to estimate the time of marijuana exposure within a 95% confidence interval. Knowing the elapsed time from marijuana exposure can then be used to predict impairment in concurrent cognitive and psychomotor effects based on data in the published literature.

http://www.nhtsa.gov/People/injury/research/j...

Potency, Purity and Dose: THC is the major psychoactive constituent of cannabis. Potency is dependent on THC concentration and is usually expressed as %THC per dry weight of material. Average THC concentration in marijuana is 1-5%, hashish 5-15%, and hashish oil ³ 20%. The form of marijuana known as sinsemilla is derived from the unpollinated female cannabis plant and is preferred for its high THC content (up to 17% THC). Recreational doses are highly variable and users often titer their own dose. A single intake of smoke from a pipe or joint is called a hit (approximately 1/20th of a gram). The lower the potency or THC content the more hits are needed to achieve the desired effects; 1-3 hits of high potency sinsemilla is typically enough to produce the desired effects. In terms of its psychoactive effect, a drop or two of hash oil on a cigarette is equal to a single “joint” of marijuana. Medicinally, the initial starting dose of Marinol® is 2.5 mg, twice daily.
UidiotraceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#165514 Jul 26, 2013
Pernrider wrote:
<quoted text>
Found the numbers:
According to the autopsy report made public record by the Office of the Medial Examiner, the blood from Martin’s chest contained 1.5 ng/ML of THC, a drug commonly found in marijuana. There was about 7.3ng/mL of THC carboxy, the by-product of the body’s metabolism of THC.
Depending on the amount of THC consumed and the frequency in which it is consumed, THC carboxy can stay in a person’s system from somewhere between two weeks to a month, according to WBTV. THC itself can stay in the body for as long as four hours.
http://tampa.cbslocal.com/2012/05/18/autopsy-...
U try to pull an all nighter, it don't work that way, see info in my previous post about drug effects..., from a govt site. Stop making it up data... Sheeeesh

“On a sailing ship to nowhere”

Since: Jun 07

Colorado

#165515 Jul 26, 2013
UidiotraceMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text> U try to pull an all nighter, it don't work that way, see info in my previous post about drug effects..., from a govt site. Stop making it up data... Sheeeesh
Moron, I agreed with your post.
UDIOTRACEMAKEWOR LDPEACE

United States

#165516 Jul 26, 2013
Pernrider wrote:
<quoted text>
Moron, I agreed with your post.
but you biggest moron, you try to post something about Drug effects... but you got it wrong , instead you use extraneous site that written by someone with no nothing about drug effects. i see you try to outsmart WWW but you right wingers did one to yourself again! pssst And not a leftie nor a rightie! BWHAHHAHHAHAA

And , here more for all you to debate about, enjoy!

George Zimmerman, Son of a Retired Judge, Has 3 Closed Arrests
11:25 AM EDT
3/27/2012 by Danielle Canada



Did George Zimmerman have help from his father, a retired judge, in clearing his name in three separate arrests?

That’s the question that’s being asked now that more information on Trayvon Martin’s 28-year-old killer is being revealed. Robert Zimmerman, a former Orange County magistrate judge, recently wrote a letter to The Orlando Sentinel defending his son, who’s been dragged through the mud for shooting the unarmed 17-year-old last month. In the letter, the senior Zimmerman asks people not to jump to conclusions and insists that his son didn’t follow the young boy home as he walked through their gated community.

“He would be the last to discriminate for any reason whatsoever. The media portrayal of George as a racist could not be further from the truth. At no time did George follow or confront Mr. Martin. When the true details of the event became public, and I hope that will be soon, everyone should be outraged by the treatment of George Zimmerman in the media,” wrote Robert Zimmerman.

Now more info is being dug up on his “victimized” son through public records and revealing his checkered past.

According to a records search on George, he was previously arrested for domestic violence, resisting an officer without violence and most shockingly, resisting an officer with violence — a felony charge that surely could have landed him in prison.

All three of those arrests, however, were mysteriously closed with no semblance of charges for the Florida resident. So how was someone with a violent past including that of battery against an officer able to carry a 9 mm handgun? Maybe that’s a question Robert Zimmerman should answer …

Update: Lead investigator wanted to arrest Zimmerman the night of the incident.

Note: It has been brought to our attention that George Zimmerman has been arrested one time, not three, and that the charges against him were dropped after he completed a pre-trial diversion program. The additional two charges stem from the same incident on the same date.

http://rollingout.com/culture/george-zimmerma...
lisw

Arnold, MD

#165518 Jul 26, 2013
The bottom line is this. George Zimmerman was found not guilty by a court of law. Unless there was jury tampering it is unconstitutional to try him again. Civil suites can be filed but it is an abomination that Holder thinks he can change the constitution and retry Zimmerman.
They should have charged him with manslaughter, but they went for second degree murder which they should have known unless the jury was affected by politics they would not get a conviction. They bet wrong.
UDIOTRACEMAKEWOR LDPEACE

Chicago, IL

#165519 Jul 26, 2013
I'm an illiterate jackass. Nothing I say makes any sense at all. Yes, I was dropped on my head if it'll make you feel any better. I have a dent and everything.

“On a sailing ship to nowhere”

Since: Jun 07

Colorado

#165520 Jul 26, 2013
UDIOTRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>but you biggest moron, you try to post something about Drug effects... but you got it wrong , instead you use extraneous site that written by someone with no nothing about drug effects. i see you try to outsmart WWW but you right wingers did one to yourself again! pssst And not a leftie nor a rightie! BWHAHHAHHAHAA
And , here more for all you to debate about, enjoy!
George Zimmerman, Son of a Retired Judge, Has 3 Closed Arrests
11:25 AM EDT
3/27/2012 by Danielle Canada
Did George Zimmerman have help from his father, a retired judge, in clearing his name in three separate arrests?
That’s the question that’s being asked now that more information on Trayvon Martin’s 28-year-old killer is being revealed. Robert Zimmerman, a former Orange County magistrate judge, recently wrote a letter to The Orlando Sentinel defending his son, who’s been dragged through the mud for shooting the unarmed 17-year-old last month. In the letter, the senior Zimmerman asks people not to jump to conclusions and insists that his son didn’t follow the young boy home as he walked through their gated community.
“He would be the last to discriminate for any reason whatsoever. The media portrayal of George as a racist could not be further from the truth. At no time did George follow or confront Mr. Martin. When the true details of the event became public, and I hope that will be soon, everyone should be outraged by the treatment of George Zimmerman in the media,” wrote Robert Zimmerman.
Now more info is being dug up on his “victimized” son through public records and revealing his checkered past.
According to a records search on George, he was previously arrested for domestic violence, resisting an officer without violence and most shockingly, resisting an officer with violence — a felony charge that surely could have landed him in prison.
All three of those arrests, however, were mysteriously closed with no semblance of charges for the Florida resident. So how was someone with a violent past including that of battery against an officer able to carry a 9 mm handgun? Maybe that’s a question Robert Zimmerman should answer …
Update: Lead investigator wanted to arrest Zimmerman the night of the incident.
Note: It has been brought to our attention that George Zimmerman has been arrested one time, not three, and that the charges against him were dropped after he completed a pre-trial diversion program. The additional two charges stem from the same incident on the same date.
http://rollingout.com/culture/george-zimmerma...
He's a Democrat from a Democrat family. Nothing shocking here.
UDIOTRACEMAKEWOR LDPEACE

United States

#165521 Jul 26, 2013
I see the stalking bullying Chicago homopoet poster is using my screen name! BWHAHahhaaa
UDIOTRACEMAKEWOR LDPEACE

United States

#165522 Jul 26, 2013
Pernrider wrote:
<quoted text>
He's a Democrat from a Democrat family. Nothing shocking here.
The T Case have not thing to do with Politics! DUH!

look the Demoncrats and Repukeliecans are corrupted bunch , kowtow to Greed and Money, if you can not see the political Chicanery , you another dumb assheoople! Wake up time Ms pornorider! BWBBABAbabAAAa
UDIOTRACEMAKEWOR LDPEACE

United States

#165523 Jul 26, 2013
lisw wrote:
The bottom line is this. George Zimmerman was found not guilty by a court of law. Unless there was jury tampering it is unconstitutional to try him again. Civil suites can be filed but it is an abomination that Holder thinks he can change the constitution and retry Zimmerman.
They should have charged him with manslaughter, but they went for second degree murder which they should have known unless the jury was affected by politics they would not get a conviction. They bet wrong.
But Pres. Obama is also asking for Civil suit, we all may just get it another one whether we all like it or not! Like i said US is become a lawless, Authoritarian society all because of you Right wingers supporting doer that made a big mess at home and worldwide! paradoxically ironic! To laught or cry? u you know me! WBHHAAHHAHAHAAa

“Take It To The Limit”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#165524 Jul 26, 2013
lisw wrote:
The bottom line is this. George Zimmerman was found not guilty by a court of law. Unless there was jury tampering it is unconstitutional to try him again. Civil suites can be filed but it is an abomination that Holder thinks he can change the constitution and retry Zimmerman.
They should have charged him with manslaughter, but they went for second degree murder which they should have known unless the jury was affected by politics they would not get a conviction. They bet wrong.
Why wouldn't holder think he could get away with a new trial? this administration has done whatever it wants from day one, without regard to the letter of the law, nor the spirit of the law.
As for treyvon, I don't give a rip whether he was a druggie or not. I only know he is dead, and some people are celebrating the fact that his killer got away with it. Nothing further said or done is going to change those basic facts. I still reserve the right to be disgusted with their glee.

“Help Cecil Help!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#165525 Jul 26, 2013
lisw wrote:
The bottom line is this. George Zimmerman was found not guilty by a court of law. Unless there was jury tampering it is unconstitutional to try him again. Civil suites can be filed but it is an abomination that Holder thinks he can change the constitution and retry Zimmerman.
They should have charged him with manslaughter, but they went for second degree murder which they should have known unless the jury was affected by politics they would not get a conviction. They bet wrong.
Holy histrionics, Batman!

I realize Holder ain't the most popular guy, but there is nothing unconstitutional (a word that is rapidly becoming meaningless due to seemingly never ending misuse) about a DOJ review of the events in question.

As much will come of the DOJ review of the facts in the Zimmerman case as came of Rush Limbaugh's threat to sue the NFL.

As to a civil suit ... I'm sure the families of Nicole Brown and Ronald Goldman would disagree with your characterization of their actions as an abomination. I'm not comparing the two cases, mind you, but under the law - the same system of laws that allows Zimmerman to walk free - it is as much the right of Trayvon's parents as it was of the Browns and the Goldmans.

“Help Cecil Help!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#165526 Jul 26, 2013
Rudyard Kiplingesque wrote:
<quoted text>
Why wouldn't holder think he could get away with a new trial? this administration has done whatever it wants from day one, without regard to the letter of the law, nor the spirit of the law.
As for treyvon, I don't give a rip whether he was a druggie or not. I only know he is dead, and some people are celebrating the fact that his killer got away with it. Nothing further said or done is going to change those basic facts. I still reserve the right to be disgusted with their glee.
Hate to cloud the issue with relevant facts, but in the abstract there is nothing illegal, unconstitutional, immoral, or fattening about the Federal government filing additional charges over an incident over which an accused as been acquitted in state courts. Double jeopardy doesn't apply across jurisdictional lines or for different charges (murder and depriving someone of their civil rights, for example).

I've been wrong before, but based on the evidence I think it's about as likely that federal charges will filed against Zimmerman as there is of John Boehner announcing he's leaving the Republicans for the Democrats.

“On a sailing ship to nowhere”

Since: Jun 07

Colorado

#165527 Jul 26, 2013
Rudyard Kiplingesque wrote:
<quoted text>

As for treyvon, I don't give a rip whether he was a druggie or not. I only know he is dead, and some people are celebrating the fact that his killer got away with it. Nothing further said or done is going to change those basic facts. I still reserve the right to be disgusted with their glee.
I don't know of anyone who is gleeful that Trayvon is dead. This is a horrible tragedy. Those who are glad for Zimmerman don't believe he is guilty of 1st degree murder or 2nd degree murder, or manslaughter and they don't believe it was racially motivated. He is guilty of making some bad decisions in following Trayvon. That's not a crime.
Trayvon reminds me of lots of kids who are not bad kids but they like living on the edge and participating in unlawful acts. His doing the things he did did not deserve death. He made a bad and life altering decision to physically confront a man who happened to be carrying a weapon.
Now, you do have the right to ask why George Zimmerman, with his background, was able to pass a background check and get a conceal carry permit. I also would like to know the answer to that. If he assaulted a police officer he should not have cleared a check.
So, why were the charges dropped? Is it because his dad is a judge? Those are valid questions.
US a World War Monger

United States

#165528 Jul 26, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>Holy histrionics, Batman!
I realize Holder ain't the most popular guy, but there is nothing unconstitutional (a word that is rapidly becoming meaningless due to seemingly never ending misuse) about a DOJ review of the events in question.
As much will come of the DOJ review of the facts in the Zimmerman case as came of Rush Limbaugh's threat to sue the NFL.
As to a civil suit ... I'm sure the families of Nicole Brown and Ronald Goldman would disagree with your characterization of their actions as an abomination. I'm not comparing the two cases, mind you, but under the law - the same system of laws that allows Zimmerman to walk free - it is as much the right of Trayvon's parents as it was of the Browns and the Goldmans.
U think Pres. O will will give the executive order to override and demand that the DOJ , for another trial to be open?

“Help Cecil Help!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#165529 Jul 26, 2013
Pernrider wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know of anyone who is gleeful that Trayvon is dead. This is a horrible tragedy. Those who are glad for Zimmerman don't believe he is guilty of 1st degree murder or 2nd degree murder, or manslaughter and they don't believe it was racially motivated. He is guilty of making some bad decisions in following Trayvon. That's not a crime.
Trayvon reminds me of lots of kids who are not bad kids but they like living on the edge and participating in unlawful acts. His doing the things he did did not deserve death. He made a bad and life altering decision to physically confront a man who happened to be carrying a weapon.
Now, you do have the right to ask why George Zimmerman, with his background, was able to pass a background check and get a conceal carry permit. I also would like to know the answer to that. If he assaulted a police officer he should not have cleared a check.
So, why were the charges dropped? Is it because his dad is a judge? Those are valid questions.
I believe you are speaking for yourself, but I don't think you can make a blanket statement for everyone speaking out on the verdict.

Some people are gleeful. You can hear it (or read it) through their denials.

What they are gleeful about ...that's anybody's guess.

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