Bush is a hero
lisw

Hamersville, OH

#165252 Jul 15, 2013
Rudyard Kiplingesque wrote:
obama is going to make a speech tomorrow explaining why the GDP numbers are 'wrong'. He won't be specific, just tell everyone that the numbers aare wrong because he says they are wrong.
Of course, his followers will believe evrything he says.
The rest of us will be spending more and getting less, especially at the grocery store.
And he'll say "let me be very clear about this."
lisw

Hamersville, OH

#165253 Jul 15, 2013
Rudyard Kiplingesque wrote:
<quoted text>
Charles Schultz said 'Happiness is a warm puppy.'
Yes, everything is relative. My husband would say "happiness is being able to walk two feet."

“On a sailing ship to nowhere”

Since: Jun 07

Colorado

#165254 Jul 15, 2013
Chris Clearwater wrote:
<quoted text>
This post from last September rings true. Its not as sexy as people calling for justice and blocking street intersections but this news hit today, July 15, 2013.
Economists Across Wall Street Are Axing Their Forecasts For US Growth
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/economists-cut...
76% of Americans are living paycheck-to-paycheck
By Angela Johnson June 24, 2013
NEW YORK (CNNMoney)
Roughly three-quarters of Americans are living paycheck-to-paycheck, with little to no emergency savings, according to a survey released by Bankrate.com Monday.
Fewer than one in four Americans have enough money in their savings account to cover at least six months of expenses, enough to help cushion the blow of a job loss, medical emergency or some other unexpected event, according to the survey of 1,000 adults. Meanwhile, 50% of those surveyed have less than a three-month cushion and 27% had no savings at all.
http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/24/pf/emergency-...

Woe is most of the country.
lisw

Hamersville, OH

#165255 Jul 15, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
You're right.
But you must admit Chris is not an upbeat person.
Why, because he thinks Obama is an idiot? I think Obama is an idiot, it's just the way it is.

“Take It To The Limit”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#165256 Jul 16, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, everything is relative. My husband would say "happiness is being able to walk two feet."

I know that feeling. Thanks to a screw-up by my doctor's nurse, I've been without pain meds for almost two months now. The nurse didn't write down critical information, and my doc drew the wrong conclusions. I told her that when her help screws up, I'm the one that pays for it. She was sympathetic, but still has to go through channels to get me back on my pain killers. For two years, my doc has been encouraging me to up my scrip. I told her that if I used more, then my body would adjust, and I'd need more still, so I prefer to keep it as is.
Anyway, it'll be another week to ten days before the verdict is in.
Know what the original problem was? I had a half a narco in my acetamenophan bottle, and about ten days after my scrip ran out, they needed me to come in and leave a sample. They found remnants of the half narco on the sample, and the nurse noted that I was 'using', even though I told her about the left over pill. there were other factors, but since the nurse didn't believe them, she just didn't write it down. How's that for efficiency?
Clearwater

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#165257 Jul 16, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
You're right.
But you must admit Chris is not an upbeat person.
I just wish to be honest. You are like a doctor that finds out a patient has cancer and would rather lie about it. And you call me messed up. No truth is I'm thankful but have no problem saying this nation is rotting from the inside out. That's beyond tragic but think it good we are honest if we have any kind of chance to fix this with eyes wide open.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#165259 Jul 16, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>Why, because he thinks Obama is an idiot? I think Obama is an idiot, it's just the way it is.
Clearwater is a misanthrope.

To him, we are all born evil.

“Pillars of Creation....”

Since: Jan 11

Into this world we're thrown

#165260 Jul 16, 2013
Pernrider wrote:
<quoted text>
He's on here too much to be as successful as he claims.
I agree 100%. Its why I give him chit about his billing practices.......

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#165262 Jul 16, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>Clearwater is a misanthrope.
To him, we are all born evil.
No, I don't think he has a problem with most people, I think he doesn't trust this administration, or liberals, and for very good reasons.

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#165263 Jul 16, 2013
Clearwater wrote:
<quoted text>I just wish to be honest. You are like a doctor that finds out a patient has cancer and would rather lie about it...
Yeah, wouldn't that be ghastly?

Well, apparently not if the doc is lying about a severely compromised pregnancy...just in CASE the woman might consider not continuing it ...

(Perfectly legal, too...)

“The future begins”

Since: Jul 07

every moment

#165264 Jul 16, 2013
Pernrider wrote:
<quoted text>
76% of Americans are living paycheck-to-paycheck
By Angela Johnson June 24, 2013
NEW YORK (CNNMoney)
Roughly three-quarters of Americans are living paycheck-to-paycheck, with little to no emergency savings, according to a survey released by Bankrate.com Monday.
Fewer than one in four Americans have enough money in their savings account to cover at least six months of expenses, enough to help cushion the blow of a job loss, medical emergency or some other unexpected event, according to the survey of 1,000 adults. Meanwhile, 50% of those surveyed have less than a three-month cushion and 27% had no savings at all.
http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/24/pf/emergency-...
Woe is most of the country.
Oh, the fun we can have with selective data, esp. when we know the target audience, eh?

You know, the paradox in the info above is that, historically, lower savings rates tend to correspond to an increase in spending, ie, consumer confidence. A little proof, you say? Well, when did we see the highest savings rate in the last ten years? That would be about Fall 2008. What was going on then?

Let's compare further - what was the savings rate in, say, Spring '05? Things were "all good" then, right? PSR hovered around 1.5%, at one point briefly dipping below 1%, as I recall.

Since at least the 1960's, living beyond our means is actually a positive econmoic indicator. Not a healthy personal finance strategy, by any means, at least not by my lights, but I tend to be financially conservative compared to the average. But as a national economic indicator, suitable for use in partisan polemics? Not so much.

Since: May 07

Indianapolis, IN

#165265 Jul 16, 2013
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, the fun we can have with selective data, esp. when we know the target audience, eh?...
Hiya Hip. Glad to see you're still around, and apparently still sane!

Taking a cruise through the old haunts; it's been a long time. I see my favorite thread is a writhing wriggling mass of trolls...'tis a pity.

Anyway, just sayin' hey!

“The future begins”

Since: Jul 07

every moment

#165266 Jul 16, 2013
Matt from Akron wrote:
<quoted text>
Hiya Hip. Glad to see you're still around, and apparently still sane!
Taking a cruise through the old haunts; it's been a long time. I see my favorite thread is a writhing wriggling mass of trolls...'tis a pity.
Anyway, just sayin' hey!
Hey yourself, and well met, Levi! Gooda "see" ya still knockin' about. An even keel or two is what's sorely needed, and sadly lacking, in those parts, fer shur, fer shur. But we had our time, and the day and the night were the sixth day, and it was good. Wishing the best to you and yours.
Peace.
HipG

“The future begins”

Since: Jul 07

every moment

#165267 Jul 16, 2013
Pernrider wrote:
<quoted text>
The discussion has been about abortion at 20 weeks and later.
I'm sorry, between the spam and the knee-jerk ad personum drivel, there may have a discussion about Brazilian vs Colombian coffee, for all I know. We all of us, or most of us, only have so much time in the day for leisure, and I don't find the patience anymore to weed thru such as the propriety of the President's underwear (I think you missed that riveting discussion) and stream-of-(barely)consciousnes s blather about historical US crimes against the world.

In the short time I did have, my post was an inquiry to the admittedly snide comment as to what "thinking and caring for all God's children" entails. If it begins at conception, and ends at birth, then for all practical purposes, it appears just a pose. It appears to me an obvious charge, as it apparently appears to all, since it received multiple clumsy misdirections, but not one reply directly on the question. The criticism would at least be negated by those few who oppose abortion, but also support any and all programs, public and private, that demonstrably benefit living children.

“Take It To The Limit”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#165268 Jul 16, 2013
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>I'm sorry, between the spam and the knee-jerk ad personum drivel, there may have a discussion about Brazilian vs Colombian coffee, for all I know. We all of us, or most of us, only have so much time in the day for leisure, and I don't find the patience anymore to weed thru such as the propriety of the President's underwear (I think you missed that riveting discussion) and stream-of-(barely)consciousnes s blather about historical US crimes against the world.
In the short time I did have, my post was an inquiry to the admittedly snide comment as to what "thinking and caring for all God's children" entails. If it begins at conception, and ends at birth, then for all practical purposes, it appears just a pose. It appears to me an obvious charge, as it apparently appears to all, since it received multiple clumsy misdirections, but not one reply directly on the question. The criticism would at least be negated by those few who oppose abortion, but also support any and all programs, public and private, that demonstrably benefit living children.
Can't abort them all. Need plenty to run their war machine.
barry didn't win that Nobel Peace Prize fer nuthin, ya know.

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#165269 Jul 16, 2013
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>I'm sorry, between the spam and the knee-jerk ad personum drivel, there may have a discussion about Brazilian vs Colombian coffee, for all I know. We all of us, or most of us, only have so much time in the day for leisure, and I don't find the patience anymore to weed thru such as the propriety of the President's underwear (I think you missed that riveting discussion) and stream-of-(barely)consciousnes s blather about historical US crimes against the world.
In the short time I did have, my post was an inquiry to the admittedly snide comment as to what "thinking and caring for all God's children" entails. If it begins at conception, and ends at birth, then for all practical purposes, it appears just a pose. It appears to me an obvious charge, as it apparently appears to all, since it received multiple clumsy misdirections, but not one reply directly on the question. The criticism would at least be negated by those few who oppose abortion, but also support any and all programs, public and private, that demonstrably benefit living children.
You won't be finding approval for any of that Commie tripe up in here...disapproval of abortion abounds, but any subsidy which benefits living children, I've discovered, is either categorized as 'subsidizing the lazy', or 'government control of one's life'.

Homey don' play dat.

“Take It To The Limit”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#165270 Jul 17, 2013
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, the fun we can have with selective data, esp. when we know the target audience, eh?
You know, the paradox in the info above is that, historically, lower savings rates tend to correspond to an increase in spending, ie, consumer confidence. A little proof, you say? Well, when did we see the highest savings rate in the last ten years? That would be about Fall 2008. What was going on then?
Let's compare further - what was the savings rate in, say, Spring '05? Things were "all good" then, right? PSR hovered around 1.5%, at one point briefly dipping below 1%, as I recall.
Since at least the 1960's, living beyond our means is actually a positive econmoic indicator. Not a healthy personal finance strategy, by any means, at least not by my lights, but I tend to be financially conservative compared to the average. But as a national economic indicator, suitable for use in partisan polemics? Not so much.
You didn't really address the '76%' part, Hip. That number is pretty high.
Brio

Anonymous Proxy

#165272 Jul 17, 2013
Well, so much people hate him. Still remember the flying shoes or something.

ah.. confuse LOL.
barb

Braidwood, IL

#165273 Jul 17, 2013
It's not about "OIL", it's about protecting the big Companies!
Bush was all about protecting all his buddies who own billion dollar industries overseas. Never mind that our soldiers were being killed so these companies can safely stay there and make their money at our expense.
He bled us dry for all the wrong reasons.

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#165274 Jul 17, 2013
Brio wrote:
Well, so much people hate him. Still remember the flying shoes or something.
ah.. confuse LOL.
Did they stop teaching English in London?

BTW, those people that "hated" President Bush so much, took the journalist outside and beat the daylights out of al-Zaidi for embarrassing the Iraqi people. Prime Minister Maliki tried to protect President Bush from al-Zaidi's shoes. al-Zaidi's fellow journalists immediately apologized to the President for the incident, and the Iraqi judicial system sentenced al-Zaidi to years in prison, of which he actually served nine months.

And yes, you are confused.

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