Bush is a hero

“On a sailing ship to nowhere”

Since: Jun 07

Colorado

#164214 Jul 3, 2013
miner49er wrote:
Pernie, that hasn't worked so far, a quick look at the facts offers a reality check:
"Invaders in the history of Afghanistan include Alexander the Great, Genghis Khan, Timur, the Mughal Empire, Russian Tsars, the British Empire (twice), the Soviet Union, and currently a coalition force of NATO troops, the majority of which are from the United States, following the US-led invasion which began on October 7, 2001, Operation Enduring Freedom."
Even mighty Soviet Russia withdrew after 10 years of bloodshed.
Don't you know American troops are being slaughtered to secure the pipeline routes for Big Energy companies?
"The Trans-Afghanistan Pipeline (also known as Turkmenistan–Afghanistan–Pakis tan–India Pipeline, TAP or TAPI) is a proposed natural gas pipeline being developed by the Asian Development Bank.[1][2][3] The pipeline will transport Caspian Sea natural gas from Turkmenistan through Afghanistan into Pakistan and then to India."
"At the end of 1990s, the American Unocal Corporation considered in addition to the Trans-Afghanistan Gas Pipeline building also a 1,000 miles (1,600 km) long 1,000,000 barrels per day (~5.0×10^7 t/a) oil pipeline to link Türkmenabat (former Chardzou), Turkmenistan to Pakistan's Arabian Sea Coast. Through the Omsk (Russia)– Pavlodar (Kasakhstan)– Shymkent – Türkmenabat pipeline, it would provide a possible alternative export route for regional oil production from the Caspian Sea. The pipeline was expected to cost US$2.5 billion. However, due to political and security instability, this project was dismissed."
American should stop bombing the Muslim countries and withdraw our occupation forces now.
I don't disagree with you regarding us getting out of Afghanistan. We should not be there. Unfortunately this President decided to escalate what was already a bad idea. Now the whole ME is on fire.

And yes, I realize that much of what we do is to secure oil from these countries.
If we opened the gates to more drilling here at home it would save the lives of American troops and bring them home. Those ME countries don't want us to do that. They play this game on both sides of the dividing line. It ain't just Big Oil, it's the financial lifeblood of the ME.
miner49er

Rupert, WV

#164215 Jul 3, 2013
Lyndi, the editorial was just empty speech.

You want Obama to intervene in Syria, but not Egypt, Iran but not Palestine, etc.

There's no consistancy to your position.

"American Exceptionalism" is just doublespeak for American Imperialism.

And where was your peotest when Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld started their War of Lies that left 116,000 Iraqi civilians dead?
lisw

Hamersville, OH

#164216 Jul 3, 2013
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>I'm hard to like because I don't like you. And one of these days, you'll write 'a lot' correctly - but I'll probably be dead by then. You can throw a party, and have a big banner:
"Sister Kathryn: We loathed her a lot"
Something to look forward to.
:)
I don't loathe you, I just have tried to like you then and I tried to like you now.
Kind of petty to throw in grammar mistakes, that's an example of why it's hard. I'll quit trying. Some things just ain't going to happen.
lisw

Hamersville, OH

#164217 Jul 3, 2013
Pernrider wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's talk Benghazi
I wish we could. To me it is the "real" scandal. I believe that the others were craftily let out for the sake of losing Benghazi in the mess.
lisw

Hamersville, OH

#164218 Jul 3, 2013
Pernrider wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't disagree with you regarding us getting out of Afghanistan. We should not be there. Unfortunately this President decided to escalate what was already a bad idea. Now the whole ME is on fire.
And yes, I realize that much of what we do is to secure oil from these countries.
If we opened the gates to more drilling here at home it would save the lives of American troops and bring them home. Those ME countries don't want us to do that. They play this game on both sides of the dividing line. It ain't just Big Oil, it's the financial lifeblood of the ME.
It is that, but what is sad is that the people of the middle east can't get fuel while they sit on lots of it. They were the ones that opted not to build refineries and ship it here. So the despots get rich but the people remain poor. I think the best thing we can do for ourselves and the middle east is to drill here, quit buying there, and they will have to find a way to use their most abundant resource that benefits their population. Why our politicians are not as smart as we are, I will never understand.
:)

“On a sailing ship to nowhere”

Since: Jun 07

Colorado

#164219 Jul 3, 2013
miner49er wrote:
Lyndi, the editorial was just empty speech.
You want Obama to intervene in Syria, but not Egypt, Iran but not Palestine, etc.
There's no consistancy to your position.
"American Exceptionalism" is just doublespeak for American Imperialism.
And where was your peotest when Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld started their War of Lies that left 116,000 Iraqi civilians dead?
Let's not start with Bush/Cheney...it started Long long long before that.

No to Syria. Let them kill each other. We'll deal with whoever wins. The US interference is nothing new to the ME. All of Europe has done it since the first Crusade. Now, I'd say their attempt to make Europe a Muslim Caliphate through continual warfare might have had a bit to do with it... but, just a bit. Shout out to the Gates of Vienna!

“On a sailing ship to nowhere”

Since: Jun 07

Colorado

#164220 Jul 3, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>I wish we could. To me it is the "real" scandal. I believe that the others were craftily let out for the sake of losing Benghazi in the mess.
Lisw, this thing is so dirty and I think so big it may just eventually come out. And yes, I think you're right in regards to other scandals being leaked in order to allow time to cover the crime that was Benghazi.

“On a sailing ship to nowhere”

Since: Jun 07

Colorado

#164221 Jul 3, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>It is that, but what is sad is that the people of the middle east can't get fuel while they sit on lots of it. They were the ones that opted not to build refineries and ship it here. So the despots get rich but the people remain poor. I think the best thing we can do for ourselves and the middle east is to drill here, quit buying there, and they will have to find a way to use their most abundant resource that benefits their population. Why our politicians are not as smart as we are, I will never understand.
:)
You know, Willie is good for some things, and I am so glad he posted these a few days ago:
Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.- Mark Twain, a Biography

All Congresses and Parliaments have a kindly feeling for idiots, and a compassion for them, on account of personal experience and heredity.- Mark Twain's Autobiography; also in Mark Twain in Eruption
miner49er

Rupert, WV

#164222 Jul 3, 2013
Pern, here again is the inconsistencey:

The editorial you posted scolded Obama for his meager support for the Syrian rebels:

"His belated decision to send small arms to some Syrian rebels means he aims to delay defeat instead of going for victory. "

So Obama should be "going for victory", fully supporting the rebels.

Then you post:

"No to Syria. Let them kill each other. We'll deal with whoever wins.".

Pernie, that's the same view your editorial accused Obama of employing.

“On a sailing ship to nowhere”

Since: Jun 07

Colorado

#164223 Jul 3, 2013
miner49er wrote:
Pern, here again is the inconsistencey:
The editorial you posted scolded Obama for his meager support for the Syrian rebels:
"His belated decision to send small arms to some Syrian rebels means he aims to delay defeat instead of going for victory. "
So Obama should be "going for victory", fully supporting the rebels.
Then you post:
"No to Syria. Let them kill each other. We'll deal with whoever wins.".
Pernie, that's the same view your editorial accused Obama of employing.
The only reason I posted that article was because it was talking about the beheading of the Syrian priest. I do not support the gov in regards to arming Syrian rebels.

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#164224 Jul 3, 2013
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>Aww...come on now, bob. I didn't start this conversation. The original topic was low information Congresscritters. I just provided an example, and bobinTX grabbed hold and took off running with it.
Take it up with him.
Besides, there've been 'a lot' of other discussions going on...we've had posts about Mike Huckabee, Gay NBA players, Obama’s failed negotiations with the NFL, Filpino versus Thai food, Tolerance-Paula Deen-and Chick-fil-a, Harvard Medical School, The Fourth of July, and the appalling lack of courtesy running around loose...heck, we've even had an English lesson.
Lighten up.
And good morning to you too, bob.
Bullscat! NONE of yer A-list of off-topics dominated the thread like the abortion issue (or Bible Study 101).

Doesn't matter who STARTED the runaway train. Once it gets a certain distance down the track, it's time to reroute the [email protected] thing.

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#164225 Jul 3, 2013
miner49er wrote:
Pern, here again is the inconsistencey:
The editorial you posted scolded Obama for his meager support for the Syrian rebels:
"His belated decision to send small arms to some Syrian rebels means he aims to delay defeat instead of going for victory. "
So Obama should be "going for victory", fully supporting the rebels.
Then you post:
"No to Syria. Let them kill each other. We'll deal with whoever wins.".
Pernie, that's the same view your editorial accused Obama of employing.
One of the things that happen when you REVOLT against posting with the reply button is that you lose track of who said what to whom.

Lyndi posted the lengthy letter, not Pernrider. Stubborn jacka$$!

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#164226 Jul 3, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>I don't loathe you, I just have tried to like you then and I tried to like you now.
Kind of petty to throw in grammar mistakes, that's an example of why it's hard. I'll quit trying. Some things just ain't going to happen.
Don't sell yourself short lis....you're one of the most trying people I know.
miner49er

Rupert, WV

#164227 Jul 3, 2013
No, Pernrider quoted my post to Lyndi about the editorial in post #169219, I was addressing both of them to point out the inconsistant conservative position.

Jackass right back atcha!

Fascinating...

“Take It To The Limit”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#164228 Jul 3, 2013
Look at miner, peeing into the wind, and thinking it's raining.

“Rainbow: God's covenant ”

Since: May 07

Clearwater, FL

#164229 Jul 3, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Woe is you.
Participated in any book burnings today? Might want to add this to your list.

Breakthrough: Our Guerilla War to Expose Fraud and Save Democracy

http://www.amazon.com/James-OKeefe/e/B00DMEDB...

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#164230 Jul 3, 2013
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>Don't sell yourself short lis....you're one of the most trying people I know.
Yet instead of ignoring her to avoid trouble, yer too weak to resist taking cheap shots. Yeah yer a freakin' pillar.

“Rainbow: God's covenant ”

Since: May 07

Clearwater, FL

#164231 Jul 3, 2013
miner49er wrote:
Chris, here in the WV we're all too familiar with the War on Coalfields Residents being waged by the coal companies.
Toxic slurry spills, acid mine drainage, selenium discharges, overloaded coal trucks tearing up the roads and causing accidents, coal operators violating contracts cutting benefits and retirement for disabled workers and their widows, power plant lung-busting emissions causing COPD, etc.
Chris, I understand that in your location of "Clearwater and Honolulu" you may not know the true cost of coal but here in Appalachia we're paying a high price as King Coal destroys God's beautiful Creation in order to run your air conditioning as you watch cable TV and sip your drinks with little umbrellas...
No worry. I got rid of cable tv and we don't drink here. If Obama has his way at some point only kings like himself have a/c. The folks won't be able to afford it. Gee, I wonder what will happen to not only quality of life but life expectancy rates in this a/c free world libs are working towards?

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#164232 Jul 3, 2013
Chris Clearwater wrote:
<quoted text>
Participated in any book burnings today? Might want to add this to your list.
Breakthrough: Our Guerilla War to Expose Fraud and Save Democracy
http://www.amazon.com/James-OKeefe/e/B00DMEDB...
So your god killed off Breitbart and gave us this dude.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#164233 Jul 3, 2013
Chris Clearwater wrote:
<quoted text>
No worry. I got rid of cable tv and we don't drink here. If Obama has his way at some point only kings like himself have a/c. The folks won't be able to afford it. Gee, I wonder what will happen to not only quality of life but life expectancy rates in this a/c free world libs are working towards?
Woe is you.

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