Bush is a hero

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#163517 Jun 17, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>Hold on a minute here.
While it's possible that some of the armaments/munitions supplied by Americans (with matching Saudi funds through Pakistan to the 'Mujaheddin' have been used against our forces in the conflicts we've been involved in over the past 13 years, the majority of them were depleted in the two years of civil war after the Russians pulled out, the years of infighting between the 'Mujaheddin', and in the losing conflict against the Taliban.
As to whether Obama is taking a wise course ... that's debatable at best. I worry that he may have waited too long, so long in fact that radical Islamic elements have taken over (or in a position to take over) the Syrian opposition.
I'm not sure you can compare the decision by Obama with the decision by Reagan in the first place, because there is no Cold War going on right now. Reagan's decision was made primarily to hurt the Russians, and the only effective way he could do that effectively was to delegate to Pakistan who received the aid.
It wasn't reagan. It was Texas congressman Charlie wilson who waged the covert war on russia. That is if you believe what was in the movie. I know, suspect source, but that's the way they put it.
You're right that they did use much of the munitions during the conflict. That war was over in '87, a long time to hold on to weaponry. They may have used the rest against the taliban, or to take out habib across the valley for using too much grazing land.

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

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#163518 Jun 17, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
"the regulars..... the regulars."
BREAKING NEWS TO WILLIE:
There aren't enough "regulars posters" in here to play a game badminton.
===
Let me see if I'm getting the rest of it right.
The transformation of a Topix FORUM (from the good ole days)
The "good ole days" being when the regulars were bashing, or trying to defend Bush policies. Policies such as overspending, the national debt, the size of the federal government, the Patriot Act, immigration enforcement, over regulation, and feeling that we were getting involved in international conflicts where some felt there was a questionable threat by those countries to the USA... even though those actions were approved by the UN, a bi-partisan majotity of both Houses of Congress, and of course, the former President, who had the same information as President Bush.
Lyndi wrote:
has your shorts tangled up and you have a compulsion to tell us you're "disillusioned" making conversation about topics like Obama's efforts to fundamentally transform the NATION not possible because posters on here won't discuss it using your strict guidelines.
It's not as much fun for Willie now that obama has adopted all those policies, and increased their burdens in spades. In addition, people are presenting facts, not feelings, to show this administrations involvement in so many scandals that they're making Nixon look like a saint.

It has to bother Willie tremendously that barry is being compared to either Richard Nixon, who actually turned out to be a crook in spite of his obama-like denials, or Jimmy Carter who was a disaster for the American economy.
Lyndi wrote:
Someday I'll explain to you what "nuts" means.
To Willie, we're "nuts" because we're not still bashing President Bush and his policies,(the "good ole days"), and ignoring the fact that obama has adopted, and expanded, almost all of them, while running the most secretive and corrupt administration that we've seen in decades.

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

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#163519 Jun 17, 2013
Miner49 wrote:
"Wait a minute, if Obama was the secret Muslim terrorist the teabaggers say he is wouldn't he already be giving weapons to the Muslim rebels in Syria?
Are you really this stupid, or is it just an act?"
Bobin, Reagan supplied the Afghan Muslim rebels with small arms and munitions including tons of C4 and Stinger man-portable SAMs that have been used against American troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.
If Obama was truly supporting terrorists he would aid the Muslim rebels like Reagan did.
It seems Obama is a little wiser than Reagan when it comes to arming our enemies...
I guess it's not an act, you really are that stupid.

Did you want to bring in President Lincoln into the discussion too? After all, he's dead too, and many of the weapons used by the South against the North were formerly Union weapons.

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

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#163520 Jun 17, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
Would you like to play WHEEL OF FORTUNE?
L-W
INF-RMATI-N
V-TER
Buy a vowel!
I'm betting he'll buy a "U".

“2016 No Clinton No Bush!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#163521 Jun 17, 2013
Rudyard Kiplingesque wrote:
<quoted text>
It wasn't reagan. It was Texas congressman Charlie wilson who waged the covert war on russia. That is if you believe what was in the movie. I know, suspect source, but that's the way they put it.
You're right that they did use much of the munitions during the conflict. That war was over in '87, a long time to hold on to weaponry. They may have used the rest against the taliban, or to take out habib across the valley for using too much grazing land.
Oh, weapons have a long shelf life - I seem to recall some IEDs in Iraq being made from WWII Russian land mines, and Iran deploying even older sea mines at one point or another.

It's entirely possible that an Afghan warlord had a stash of weapons left over that have were later used against us. Iraqi insurgents didn't need outside supplies; we left Saddam's weapons stashes wide open.

Wilson's role was huge (didn't see the movie, but read the book it's based on) early on, mostly on the money and kinds of weapons provided. After he's set things in motion, however, the Reagan Administration was responsible for implementing policy.
hardingurs

Mckeesport, PA

#163522 Jun 17, 2013
youtube.com/watch... …… What Excuses now?
Bush Had to bethe Greatist

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

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#163523 Jun 17, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
The Family Obama has toned down their upcoming trip to Africa. Final costs are still being tallied but they have cancelled their plans to include a safari..... which is very, very GOOD.
Excellent... maybe barry can use the money he was planning to spend on his lavish vacations to organize safaris in our White House for grade school kids.
Jim Mora

Rochester, MN

#163524 Jun 17, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, weapons have a long shelf life - I seem to recall some IEDs in Iraq being made from WWII Russian land mines, and Iran deploying even older sea mines at one point or another.
It's entirely possible that an Afghan warlord had a stash of weapons left over that have were later used against us. Iraqi insurgents didn't need outside supplies; we left Saddam's weapons stashes wide open.
Wilson's role was huge (didn't see the movie, but read the book it's based on) early on, mostly on the money and kinds of weapons provided. After he's set things in motion, however, the Reagan Administration was responsible for implementing policy.
Policy? you talkin bout, Policy? Are you kiddin me, Policy

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#163525 Jun 17, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>I just don't understand the lack of integrity. If Obama did something I agreed with I said so. It hasn't been anything lately but I agreed with Bush on the patriot act and I agree with Obama. I find his motives suspect is all. I was quick to say Hillary worked hard, not realizing until later that she worked hard at something else that she should have been against.
Why make the so called disillusionment about the posters. If you don't give a rats patootie for them why does it matter. Apparently it didn't matter for 6 years and I know that not much has changed because I've been here five. The only thing that changed is the president.
Obama's leading from behind and allowing his cabinet & staff to make some decisions. Obama claims he "didn't know about...", or "just found out about...", etc., etc. All BS. That leaves Obama with the "plausible deniability" option, but that's not the
way a US President should lead. I'm sure his staffers are quick to inform him about EVERYthing.

BTW you and WWA were the 1st ones in here, followed by WWW about 4 weeks later or so, and then me about 4-8 weeks after that.

“2016 No Clinton No Bush!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#163526 Jun 17, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
<quoted text>
The "good ole days" being when the regulars were bashing, or trying to defend Bush policies. Policies such as overspending, the national debt, the size of the federal government, the Patriot Act, immigration enforcement, over regulation, and feeling that we were getting involved in international conflicts where some felt there was a questionable threat by those countries to the USA... even though those actions were approved by the UN, a bi-partisan majotity of both Houses of Congress, and of course, the former President, who had the same information as President Bush.
<quoted text>
It's not as much fun for Willie now that obama has adopted all those policies, and increased their burdens in spades. In addition, people are presenting facts, not feelings, to show this administrations involvement in so many scandals that they're making Nixon look like a saint.
It has to bother Willie tremendously that barry is being compared to either Richard Nixon, who actually turned out to be a crook in spite of his obama-like denials, or Jimmy Carter who was a disaster for the American economy.
<quoted text>
To Willie, we're "nuts" because we're not still bashing President Bush and his policies,(the "good ole days"), and ignoring the fact that obama has adopted, and expanded, almost all of them, while running the most secretive and corrupt administration that we've seen in decades.
What reason (besides the fact that I'm a liberal) do you have for assuming I ever opposed the Iraq war?

Since: Apr 07

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#163527 Jun 17, 2013
Miner49 wrote:
"Wait a minute, if Obama was the secret Muslim terrorist the teabaggers say he is wouldn't he already be giving weapons to the Muslim rebels in Syria?
Are you really this stupid, or is it just an act?"

Bobin, Reagan supplied the Afghan Muslim rebels with small arms and munitions including tons of C4 and Stinger man-portable SAMs that have been used against American troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.
If Obama was truly supporting terrorists he would aid the Muslim rebels like Reagan did.
It seems Obama is a little wiser than Reagan when it comes to arming our enemies...
Are you really this stupid or is just an act?

Unlike many others, I never thought all that much of Reagan. But OBAMA is the pits :P

“Rainbow: God's covenant ”

Since: May 07

Clearwater and Honolulu

#163528 Jun 17, 2013
Roberta G wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you really this stupid or is just an act?
Unlike many others, I never thought all that much of Reagan. But OBAMA is the pits :P
I didn't read anything past teabaggers. Don't have time for the crap right now.

“zero nuclear weapons”

Since: Sep 08

Perryville

#163529 Jun 17, 2013
Ok this is for the (people who believed) that President Obama is in secret a Muslim and not the legal President.

He was vetted my many branches of the government If that is true why didn't one of these agencies speak up.

Or how about this why didn't the different intelligence agencies of the world say something??

Or do you think that President Obama has the control to keep them all quite???

Bet none of you can give a good responce

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

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#163530 Jun 17, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>What reason (besides the fact that I'm a liberal) do you have for assuming I ever opposed the Iraq war?
How would I know which of Bush's policies you opposed, or of which of his policies you approved, I only joined three years ago. I was defining what was being discussed in "the good ole days", not what you believed.

Did you support President Bush's invasion of Iraq, like the majority of Americans?

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

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#163531 Jun 17, 2013
Roberta G wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you really this stupid or is just an act?
Unlike many others, I never thought all that much of Reagan.
Blasphemer!
:)
Roberta G wrote:
But OBAMA is the pits :P
Gospel.

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#163532 Jun 17, 2013
Chris Clearwater wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't read anything past teabaggers. Don't have time for the crap right now.
Yep, and I'm not wasting time with some newbie yahoo that doesn't know how to use the "reply" button.

Like Lyndi said, even a monkee would be curious about it.
lisw

Sardinia, OH

#163533 Jun 17, 2013
nebka wrote:
Ok this is for the (people who believed) that President Obama is in secret a Muslim and not the legal President.
He was vetted my many branches of the government If that is true why didn't one of these agencies speak up.
Or how about this why didn't the different intelligence agencies of the world say something??
Or do you think that President Obama has the control to keep them all quite???
Bet none of you can give a good responce
Are you kidding me? Obama is mired in the worst scandals that this country has ever seen and you think anyone is worried about his birth certificate let alone whether he is Muslim?

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#163534 Jun 17, 2013
nebka wrote:
Ok this is for the (people who believed) that President Obama is in secret a Muslim and not the legal President.
He was vetted my many branches of the government If that is true why didn't one of these agencies speak up.
Or how about this why didn't the different intelligence agencies of the world say something??
Or do you think that President Obama has the control to keep them all quite???
Bet none of you can give a good responce
Aw Nebbie. You know the answer, but yer just too blind to see.

Where's Obama from? C-H-I-C-A-G-O. And what's Chicago known for, besides great pan pizzas? That's right, the mob. Obama's owns the Syndicate, and issues directives all over the globe. Ya either keep "quite", or Guido stops by and cracks yer face.

C'mon now Nebula, this is elementary. I can't do ALL yer leg work for ya.

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#163535 Jun 17, 2013
nebka wrote:
Ok this is for the (people who believed) that President Obama is in secret a Muslim and not the legal President.
He was vetted my many branches of the government
Really, which ones? The only one that I know that vetted barry was the Clinton campaign.
nebka wrote:
If that is true why didn't one of these agencies speak up.
Why would agencies speak up about something they never investigated?

The one exception was Hillary's campaign, which claimed to have investigated obama, and stated that barry was not a natural born citizen.
nebka wrote:
Or how about this why didn't the different intelligence agencies of the world say something??
Why would they care, or investigate, a U.S. candidate?
nebka wrote:
Or do you think that President Obama has the control to keep them all quite???
obama didn't need to keep them all "quite"... as they never ran an investigation on all of the many Democratic candidates.
nebka wrote:
Bet none of you can give a good responce
It's sometimes hard to come up with a good "responce" to silly assumptions.

When did Perryville drop English as required curriculum?

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#163536 Jun 17, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
<quoted text>
How would I know which of Bush's policies you opposed, or of which of his policies you approved, I only joined three years ago. I was defining what was being discussed in "the good ole days", not what you believed.
Did you support President Bush's invasion of Iraq, like the majority of Americans?
He's mentioned a few times that he supported the Iraq war, but NOT the manner that it was waged when we got there. You may've been on one of yer prolonged absences.

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