Bush is a hero
lisw

Delaware, OH

#163018 May 30, 2013
bad bob wrote:
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True, and not all that many non-natives are aware of that.
Another story I found fascinating is that Crazy Horse along with approx 1500 warriors, helped defeat Gen Crook at Rosebud Creek on June 17, in a 6 hour battle,(Crook's 2nd try, and 2nd defeat - took him out of the Bighorn battle). But right afterward, Crazy Horse got word of the Bluecoats converging on Sitting Bull's Annual Meeting of all the local Tribes, which he chose to have at LBH. Anyway, Crazy Horse was now at the south end of the Wolf Mtns, about 15 miles from the Wyo Terr. boundary.
So he and his warriors either rode north thru the Wolf Mtns, or did an end run to the west 13 miles b4 heading north for 20 miles to the LBH (33 total). Either way would not've been an easy ride, but he got there within the 8 days to help take down Custer.
At LBH, witnesses saw Crazy Horse riding back & forth in front of the soldiers yelling and urging his fellow warriors on. Numerous soldiers were shooting at Crazy Horse but he was never hit.
Was the monument to Crazy Horse in the Black Hills ever finished? They were working on it 30 years ago when we were there.

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#163020 May 30, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>Was the monument to Crazy Horse in the Black Hills ever finished? They were working on it 30 years ago when we were there.
Rock structure problems (& funding) has slowed things down a bit Lis.

http://www.npr.org/2013/01/01/167988928/the-s...
lisw

Delaware, OH

#163021 May 30, 2013
bad bob wrote:
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Rock structure problems (& funding) has slowed things down a bit Lis.
http://www.npr.org/2013/01/01/167988928/the-s...
Thanks I didn't know it was started that early. I'm a big fan of Amada Pena. I met him once in Santa Fe. His paintings were almost always of the faces of Native Americans naturally found in the mountains. Maybe they're trying to be too literal with the sculpture.
They started the monument before I was born. If they finish it before I die, I'm going to go see it. Wanna meet me there?
:)

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

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#163022 May 31, 2013
bad bob wrote:
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Rock structure problems (& funding) has slowed things down a bit Lis.
http://www.npr.org/2013/01/01/167988928/the-s...
Some folks/states know how to handle their priorities...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_Mountain

Since: May 13

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#163023 May 31, 2013
no hes not

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#163024 May 31, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks I didn't know it was started that early. I'm a big fan of Amada Pena. I met him once in Santa Fe. His paintings were almost always of the faces of Native Americans naturally found in the mountains. Maybe they're trying to be too literal with the sculpture.
They started the monument before I was born. If they finish it before I die, I'm going to go see it. Wanna meet me there?
:)
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Of course. I'd be delighted. Though hopefully we may have a much sooner opportunity.

About 30 years ago or so, I was driving alone in the Black Hills, and near the center (it was 9-10AM), there was a large clearing, small creek, and some sort of lone store or something off to the left (northeast) side.

I was travelling south and saw up in the hillside trees to the southwest, a large white sculpture of an Indian in full headress sitting on a horse. Much of the horse was hidden by the trees, but the head & back were visible. Course I had no camera.

Anyway, I didn't think much about it until a few years ago, my daughter & I were back there to see relatives (Sturgis) and tour the area. I mentioned my "vision" to some of the older relatives, and NONE of them recalled seeing an Indian on a horse up on the hillside. And they drive thru the area frequently.

My guess is it was some sort of huge model for Crazy Horse to see what a completed memorial might look like.
lisw

Delaware, OH

#163025 May 31, 2013
bad bob wrote:
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<OFF TOPIC>
Of course. I'd be delighted. Though hopefully we may have a much sooner opportunity.
About 30 years ago or so, I was driving alone in the Black Hills, and near the center (it was 9-10AM), there was a large clearing, small creek, and some sort of lone store or something off to the left (northeast) side.
I was travelling south and saw up in the hillside trees to the southwest, a large white sculpture of an Indian in full headress sitting on a horse. Much of the horse was hidden by the trees, but the head & back were visible. Course I had no camera.
Anyway, I didn't think much about it until a few years ago, my daughter & I were back there to see relatives (Sturgis) and tour the area. I mentioned my "vision" to some of the older relatives, and NONE of them recalled seeing an Indian on a horse up on the hillside. And they drive thru the area frequently.
My guess is it was some sort of huge model for Crazy Horse to see what a completed memorial might look like.
Or maybe you have some sort of sixth sense. I'm serious. I know how much that area means to you and when you feel that way I think you have a connection others don't.

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#163026 May 31, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>Or maybe you have some sort of sixth sense. I'm serious. I know how much that area means to you and when you feel that way I think you have a connection others don't.
You think it was seen only in my "mind's eye" and was not actually
there physically? It's possible, but (wow) for a mirage, that was
SOME vision.

I didn't stop at the time because I figured it was just a model. But I think I can find the location, and I'd sure like to ask the business owner if he/she remembers it.
:-)

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#163027 May 31, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
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Some folks/states know how to handle their priorities...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_Mountain
Thanx for the link. Hadn't ever heard of that one b4. Heard of Stone Mtn, but not the carving.
lisw

Delaware, OH

#163028 May 31, 2013
bad bob wrote:
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You think it was seen only in my "mind's eye" and was not actually
there physically? It's possible, but (wow) for a mirage, that was
SOME vision.
I didn't stop at the time because I figured it was just a model. But I think I can find the location, and I'd sure like to ask the business owner if he/she remembers it.
:-)
I'm not saying you're nuts or anything, I'm just thinking that's a mighty big model.

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#163030 May 31, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>I'm not saying you're nuts or anything, I'm just thinking that's a mighty big model.
Oh it's quite all right Lis, I AM.

Did a virtual tour (satellite) of the Black Hills about 2 hrs ago, and noticed that there have been quite a few buildings, both residential & commercial added to the area, so now I'm not so sure I could find the spot again. I did see a couple places that COULD have been the area.

If the model actually existed, it was probably made of plastic or some other lite material, even styrofoam perhaps, as pillars and many other architecural features are commonly made, though likely not so common 30+ years ago. IDK.

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#163031 May 31, 2013
bad bob wrote:
<quoted text>
<OFF TOPIC>
Of course. I'd be delighted. Though hopefully we may have a much sooner opportunity.

About 30 years ago or so, I was driving alone in the Black Hills, and near the center (it was 9-10AM), there was a large clearing, small creek, and some sort of lone store or something off to the left (northeast) side.

I was travelling south and saw up in the hillside trees to the southwest, a large white sculpture of an Indian in full headress sitting on a horse. Much of the horse was hidden by the trees, but the head & back were visible. Course I had no camera.

Anyway, I didn't think much about it until a few years ago, my daughter & I were back there to see relatives (Sturgis) and tour the area. I mentioned my "vision" to some of the older relatives, and NONE of them recalled seeing an Indian on a horse up on the hillside. And they drive thru the area frequently.

My guess is it was some sort of huge model for Crazy Horse to see what a completed memorial might look like.
Correction: 2nd paragraph s/h/b
....off to the left (SOUTHeast) side.

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#163032 May 31, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>I'm not saying you're nuts or anything, I'm just thinking that's a mighty big model.
Lis, the model was a reduced scale, and didn't exactly dominate the landscape as one might think in looking at the scale of the current memorial.

If I had to guess, I'd say the model was about 2 1/2 times avg human size. So using avg height 6', the model may've been 12-15'
from the ground, enough to expose the top 1/3 above the pine trees.

“"Tanners Flat" U dummy”

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#163033 May 31, 2013
Rudyard Kiplingesque wrote:
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Hmmm, Natives didn't call it,'The Little Big Horn'. It was known to them as 'The greasy grass' so Both quotes are wrong.
Just sayin'.
That's not sayin' much.

Maybe john wooden-legs got the name of the battle wrong....according to you, but sarah palin mis-attributed the quote and twisted the meaning of it.

On your scale broken scale, these two balance out.

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#163034 May 31, 2013
Yellow Star Seed is Back wrote:
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That's not sayin' much.
Maybe john wooden-legs got the name of the battle wrong....according to you, but sarah palin mis-attributed the quote and twisted the meaning of it.
On your scale broken scale, these two balance out.
Errors of this type are common everywhere, and on BOTH sides. But because politicians do it, it gets more ink & air time from an opposition's attempt to cast the person in the worst possible light.

Most, who are already aware of this, assign the merit % deemed worthy at the time, and move on from there.

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

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#163035 May 31, 2013
bad bob wrote:
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Oh it's quite all right Lis, I AM.
Did a virtual tour (satellite) of the Black Hills about 2 hrs ago, and noticed that there have been quite a few buildings, both residential & commercial added to the area, so now I'm not so sure I could find the spot again. I did see a couple places that COULD have been the area.
If the model actually existed, it was probably made of plastic or some other lite material, even styrofoam perhaps, as pillars and many other architecural features are commonly made, though likely not so common 30+ years ago. IDK.
http://crazyhorsememorial.org/

Since: Apr 07

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#163036 May 31, 2013
In case any of you didn't notice the correlation, Sister Katlyn has not posted here since before the tornado hit Moore, OK last week. Now there's a whole bunch of tornadoes hitting the same area and other points near Oklahoma City. I am praying for her and anyone else living in that area and I ask that each of you do the same. If you don't believe in God or prayer, please at least wish for her safety and that the area will be spared as much as possible.

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#163037 May 31, 2013
DANGER-DANGER-DANGER

Check Nat'l Weather right now

Huge system with multiple tornadoes has moved in to OK City area and has reportedly entered suburbs.

OKC and Moore are being hit again, and I-35 north & south in OKC is bumper to bumper with folks scrambling to get out. Tornado is expected to tear across I-35. Sitting ducks comes to mind.

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#163038 May 31, 2013
bad bob wrote:
DANGER-DANGER-DANGER
Check Nat'l Weather right now
Huge system with multiple tornadoes has moved in to OK City area and has reportedly entered suburbs.
OKC and Moore are being hit again, and I-35 north & south in OKC is bumper to bumper with folks scrambling to get out. Tornado is expected to tear across I-35. Sitting ducks comes to mind.
So do bulls'eyes :s
lisw

Delaware, OH

#163039 May 31, 2013
bad bob wrote:
DANGER-DANGER-DANGER
Check Nat'l Weather right now
Huge system with multiple tornadoes has moved in to OK City area and has reportedly entered suburbs.
OKC and Moore are being hit again, and I-35 north & south in OKC is bumper to bumper with folks scrambling to get out. Tornado is expected to tear across I-35. Sitting ducks comes to mind.
Please tell me you are kidding. That is so awful. Roberta I don't know if it helps but Kathryn seems to be okay. I've seen her on another thread all week.

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