Bush is a hero

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#162789 May 25, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
<quoted text>
I won't be holding my breath for either the link to the Beghazi Consulate, or your apology... but I will know, as will everyone else, that Yellow Stain has been talking out of his butt, once again!
Global Idiot has sqwaaaked several times about there being no Consulate in Benghazi. From Wiki:

"The political title Consul is used for the official representatives of the government of one state in the territory of another, normally acting to assist and protect the citizens of the consul's own country, and to facilitate trade and friendship between the peoples of the two countries. A CONSUL is distinguished from an ABMASSADOR, the latter being a representative from one head of state to another. There can be only ONE ambassador from one country to another, representing the first country's head of state to that of the second, and his or her duties revolve around diplomatic relations between the two countries; however, there may be SEVERAL CONSULS, one in each of SEVERAL MAIN CITIES, providing assistance with bureaucratic issues to both the citizens of the consul's own country travelling or living abroad and to the citizens of the country the consul resides in who wish to travel to or trade with the consul's country."

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#162790 May 25, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>The security thing seems like a no brainer to me. If they ask for more security GIVE IT TO THEM! oops sorry Hip I used all caps there and that certainly negates what I say. I repeat, give it to them.
Of course. UNfortunately, something more sinister happened in Benghazi, and this admin appears to be doing everything it can to cover it up. Likely gross negligence.

Dan Pfeiffer declared Barry was being updated, but said "which room the President was in, is irrelevant". I believe Barry had gone beddy bye, as he was leaving for Nevada the next day, and did not want to be disturbed. In the meantime, the worst possible scenario in Benghazi actually occured, and now Barry can't disclose what he was doing. <Speculation only>

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#162791 May 25, 2013
bad bob wrote:
<quoted text>
Global Idiot has sqwaaaked several times about there being no Consulate in Benghazi. From Wiki:
"The political title Consul is used for the official representatives of the government of one state in the territory of another, normally acting to assist and protect the citizens of the consul's own country, and to facilitate trade and friendship between the peoples of the two countries. A CONSUL is distinguished from an ABMASSADOR, the latter being a representative from one head of state to another. There can be only ONE ambassador from one country to another, representing the first country's head of state to that of the second, and his or her duties revolve around diplomatic relations between the two countries; however, there may be SEVERAL CONSULS, one in each of SEVERAL MAIN CITIES, providing assistance with bureaucratic issues to both the citizens of the consul's own country travelling or living abroad and to the citizens of the country the consul resides in who wish to travel to or trade with the consul's country."
Wiki is correct.

What's your point?

“Rainbow: God's covenant ”

Since: May 07

Clearwater, FL

#162792 May 25, 2013
bad bob wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course. UNfortunately, something more sinister happened in Benghazi, and this admin appears to be doing everything it can to cover it up. Likely gross negligence.
Dan Pfeiffer declared Barry was being updated, but said "which room the President was in, is irrelevant". I believe Barry had gone beddy bye, as he was leaving for Nevada the next day, and did not want to be disturbed. In the meantime, the worst possible scenario in Benghazi actually occured, and now Barry can't disclose what he was doing. <Speculation only>
Gun running.

“Rainbow: God's covenant ”

Since: May 07

Clearwater, FL

#162793 May 25, 2013
Through shipping records, Fox News has confirmed that the Libyan-flagged vessel Al Entisar, which means “The Victory,” was received in the Turkish port of Iskenderun — 35 miles from the Syrian border — on Sept. 6, just five days before Ambassador Chris Stevens, information management officer Sean Smith and former Navy Seals Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty were killed during an extended assault by more than 100 Islamist militants.

According to an initial Sept. 14 report by the Times of London, Al Entisar was carrying 400 tons of cargo. Some of it was humanitarian, but also reportedly weapons, described by the report as the largest consignment of weapons headed for Syria’s rebels on the frontlines.

“This is the Libyan ship … which is basically carrying weapons that are found in Libya,” said Walid Phares, a Fox News Middle East and terrorism analyst.“So the ship came all the way up to Iskenderun in Turkey. Now from the information that is available, there was aid material, but there were also weapons, a lot of weapons.”

The cargo reportedly included surface-to-air anti-aircraft missiles, RPG’s and Russian-designed shoulder-launched missiles known as MANPADS.

The ship’s Libyan captain told the Times of London that “I can only talk about the medicine and humanitarian aid” for the Syrian rebels. It was reported there was a fight about the weapons and who got what “between the free Syrian Army and the Muslim Brotherhood.”

http://www.libertynews.com/2013/05/benghazi-t...

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#162795 May 25, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Wiki is correct.
What's your point?
LOL, I figured you were dumb, but.....!
Maybe if you read, it'll come to you.

“The future begins”

Since: Jul 07

every moment

#162796 May 25, 2013
bad bob wrote:
<quoted text>You actually want more investigations into the wars in Iraq & Afghanistan?? Why, because YOU declared the wars illegal? And you DO realize that even on the remote possibility that BushCo is found guilty of any wrongdoing, that your Rookie-In-Chief would be just as guilty for continuing the same policy?
And the games continue.

Are you receiving some kind of edited version or what? You're working my words every which way but true while at the same time dodging the actual points raised. Hell, you all are doing the exact same dance.

OK, I'll write slowly. I did >not< at any time say that I wanted "more investigations into the wars in Iraq" (and said nothing at all about Afghanistan). What I said was in fact the very opposite of that, and said so to previous posters who demanded such investigations. It's common knowledge today that the justifications presented, and initial conduct of the war, were inept at best, and in some instances possibly criminal. By whom? Who knew what and when? How high up did it go? We could only know from investigation. BUT >like I said< to previous posters, the type of "investigations" that tend to come from them are divisive and fruitless and produce only campaign fluff.

I then used it as a contrast in the current setting - IF 4 American deaths were so important, what about the 40,000+ in Iraq, which every one were the direct result of those initial flawed justifications, ie, they would not have happened, up to the last soldier killed or wounded in-country in Iraq, were it not for that.

I find the contracts striking. Here you all demand perfection in the after-action reports of a chaotic and violent nighttime uprising, but you're oh so forgiving of the tragic monumental mistakes in the justifications and execution of a PLANNED invasion.

Again, to be clear - I am not demanding investigations, YOU all are. I just think it abundantly clear when 40K American casualties, the first death less than a decade ago, are dismissed as "old news", that your (collective) demands today are baldly hypocritical and cynically political.
bad bob wrote:
<quoted text>And I'm pretty sure everyone is aware NOTHING has been done about Consulate security. That is up until yesterday, when "Bare" vowed to "close the security gap overseas" (para). Better late than never, huh!
False (surprised? Not me).

But, OK, so IF it's about American lives, where is the uproar over >your perception< that nothing has changed? Does Congress still have oversight and control the purse-strings or not? Why are we not demanding increased security no matter the cost and THEN, when that is accomplished, investigate to their heart's content?

The answer is simple, and it has little to do with American LIVES. American dead, maybe. We do love to mortify our flesh over the dead, when it suits us, but, I'm sorry, I'm just not seeing the outpouring of concern for American LIVES, ten years ago OR now.....

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#162797 May 25, 2013
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>
OK, I'll write slowly. I did >not< at any time say that I wanted "more investigations into the wars in Iraq" (and said nothing at all about Afghanistan). What I said was in fact the very opposite of that, and said so to previous posters who demanded such investigations. It's common knowledge today that the justifications presented, and initial conduct of the war, were inept at best, and in some instances possibly criminal. By whom? Who knew what and when? How high up did it go? We could only know from investigation. BUT >like I said< to previous posters, the type of "investigations" that tend to come from them are divisive and fruitless and produce only campaign fluff.
I then used it as a contrast in the current setting - IF 4 American deaths were so important, what about the 40,000+ in Iraq, which every one were the direct result of those initial flawed justifications, ie, they would not have happened, up to the last soldier killed or wounded in-country in Iraq, were it not for that.
I find the contracts striking. Here you all demand perfection in the after-action reports of a chaotic and violent nighttime uprising, but you're oh so forgiving of the tragic monumental mistakes in the justifications and execution of a PLANNED invasion.
OK so ya don't want a freakin' investigation. Ya want OUTRAGE, the same OUTRAGE shown over the 4 deaths in Benghazi. OHHH, you want outrage from US, the same people in here calling for Obama's head on a stick!

Well there was plenty of "outrage" over Iraq. Plenty of "outrage" over Afghanistan (which you didn't mention of course). There was (and still is) global outrage over the wars. Maybe you missed all that.

I supported those wars, and would do it again if necessary. So if yer lookin' for ME to show outrage over wars I supported, you can FORGET IT!

"Demand perfection in the after-action reports"??? That statement is so downright ridiculous, it doesn't deserve a reply. But I'll tell ya this. Your prince has gotten himself (admin) into one scandal after another, and the obvious pattern shows one coverup after another. Sooner or later, SOMEone (in the admin) is gonna talk. When that happens, the dominoes usually tumble soon after, exposing the ugly TRUTH!
lisw

Carroll, OH

#162798 May 25, 2013
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>
And the games continue.
Are you receiving some kind of edited version or what? You're working my words every which way but true while at the same time dodging the actual points raised. Hell, you all are doing the exact same dance.
OK, I'll write slowly. I did >not< at any time say that I wanted "more investigations into the wars in Iraq" (and said nothing at all about Afghanistan). What I said was in fact the very opposite of that, and said so to previous posters who demanded such investigations. It's common knowledge today that the justifications presented, and initial conduct of the war, were inept at best, and in some instances possibly criminal. By whom? Who knew what and when? How high up did it go? We could only know from investigation. BUT >like I said< to previous posters, the type of "investigations" that tend to come from them are divisive and fruitless and produce only campaign fluff.
I then used it as a contrast in the current setting - IF 4 American deaths were so important, what about the 40,000+ in Iraq, which every one were the direct result of those initial flawed justifications, ie, they would not have happened, up to the last soldier killed or wounded in-country in Iraq, were it not for that.
I find the contracts striking. Here you all demand perfection in the after-action reports of a chaotic and violent nighttime uprising, but you're oh so forgiving of the tragic monumental mistakes in the justifications and execution of a PLANNED invasion.
Again, to be clear - I am not demanding investigations, YOU all are. I just think it abundantly clear when 40K American casualties, the first death less than a decade ago, are dismissed as "old news", that your (collective) demands today are baldly hypocritical and cynically political.
<quoted text>False (surprised? Not me).
But, OK, so IF it's about American lives, where is the uproar over >your perception< that nothing has changed? Does Congress still have oversight and control the purse-strings or not? Why are we not demanding increased security no matter the cost and THEN, when that is accomplished, investigate to their heart's content?
The answer is simple, and it has little to do with American LIVES. American dead, maybe. We do love to mortify our flesh over the dead, when it suits us, but, I'm sorry, I'm just not seeing the outpouring of concern for American LIVES, ten years ago OR now.....
What "uprising" are you talking about? Are you still stuck on the old talking points that it was a demonstration. There was no "uprising" It was an attack, plain and simple, planned, and all that. And it was known that there would be an attack. Usually if you know you plan your defenses.
You have alot of nerve saying there was no concern for american lives during the Iraq and Afghan wars. There was and is and always will be. Please make sure that you are honest about the numbers There may have been 40,000 injuries but it is more like 7000 deaths. I can't help but compare that to 54,000 deaths during the Vietnam war. That is not to minimize the injured at all, as many will go forward without limbs and with terrible memories. But they tried not to let those people die and each soldier knows they did everything they could to help their brother. Big difference from Benghazi where they were told "don't help" Can you even imagine what that felt like to a soldier? Were you ever a soldier?

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#162799 May 25, 2013
bad bob wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL, I figured you were dumb, but.....!
Maybe if you read, it'll come to you.
Read what?

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#162800 May 25, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>What "uprising" are you talking about? Are you still stuck on the old talking points that it was a demonstration. There was no "uprising" It was an attack, plain and simple, planned, and all that. And it was known that there would be an attack. Usually if you know you plan your defenses.
You have alot of nerve saying there was no concern for american lives during the Iraq and Afghan wars. There was and is and always will be. Please make sure that you are honest about the numbers There may have been 40,000 injuries but it is more like 7000 deaths. I can't help but compare that to 54,000 deaths during the Vietnam war. That is not to minimize the injured at all, as many will go forward without limbs and with terrible memories. But they tried not to let those people die and each soldier knows they did everything they could to help their brother. Big difference from Benghazi where they were told "don't help" Can you even imagine what that felt like to a soldier? Were you ever a soldier?
Were you?
lisw

Carroll, OH

#162801 May 25, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Were you?
No but I married one and I know how he feels. it shouldn't be important though. Translate it to "were you ever a ...father, husband, brother,... all of those also are things where you'd lay down your life for another.

“"Tanners Flat" U dummy”

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#162802 May 26, 2013
Roberta G wrote:
<quoted text>
Reported.


Did you report LisW's? I bet not, you are a hypocrite. What did jesus despise most?!? Hypocrisy!

You are a silly little girl, my 14 year old daughter is more mature than you.

“"Tanners Flat" U dummy”

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#162803 May 26, 2013
#1 Why would I apologize

#2 and why do you feel you need one from me?!?!?

Your post should be directed at RobertaG who suggested to me that an american consulate in bengazi was attacked.....to which I questioned why we have one in bengazi in the first place.

If anyone deserves an apology it is me for having to respond back repeatedly to straighten you out on the facts of the matter, altho I don't need an apology from you or expect one.
BobinTX wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
Your apology would be nice too, although I don't think it's ever expected when liberals find out that they're wrong, again.
Perhaps you would be so kind as to provide the link to our U.S. Consulate in Benghazi. Here's the one for the U.S. Embassy in Libya.
http://libya.usembassy.gov/
I'll leave it up to you to provide the non-existant link to the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi.
As an example, here's the link for our Alexandria, Egypt U.S. Consulate.
http://egypt.usembassy.gov/acalex.html
Which, of course, is a different link than the U.S. Embassy, which is located in Cairo.
http://egypt.usembassy.gov/index.html
I won't be holding my breath for either the link to the Beghazi Consulate, or your apology... but I will know, as will everyone else, that Yellow Stain has been talking out of his butt, once again!

“The future begins”

Since: Jul 07

every moment

#162804 May 26, 2013
bad bob wrote:
<quoted text>
OK so ya don't want a freakin' investigation. Ya want OUTRAGE, the same OUTRAGE shown over the 4 deaths in Benghazi. OHHH, you want outrage from US, the same people in here calling for Obama's head on a stick!
Well there was plenty of "outrage" over Iraq. Plenty of "outrage" over Afghanistan (which you didn't mention of course). There was (and still is) global outrage over the wars. Maybe you missed all that.
I supported those wars, and would do it again if necessary. So if yer lookin' for ME to show outrage over wars I supported, you can FORGET IT!
"Demand perfection in the after-action reports"??? That statement is so downright ridiculous, it doesn't deserve a reply. But I'll tell ya this. Your prince has gotten himself (admin) into one scandal after another, and the obvious pattern shows one coverup after another. Sooner or later, SOMEone (in the admin) is gonna talk. When that happens, the dominoes usually tumble soon after, exposing the ugly TRUTH!
bob, I haven't said anything like that either. What I'm looking for is simple consistency. Don't see it. Previous admin spent like drunken sailors. No right-based demands for fiscal responsibility. Previous admin played fast and loose with liberties in the name of security. No right-based demands for culpability. Previous admin outed national security personnel for political gain. No right-based demands for investigation. Previous admin simply >lost< billions overseas in nations over-run with people committed to our destruction. No right-based demands for "the trail". Previous admin advanced false information to justify the invasion of a sovereign state, and totally screwed the pooch in execution of said invasion, resulting ultimately in 40K American casualties. No right-based demands for who, what, why, or when.

Not outrage. Not demanding "investigations". Consistency. That's all.

But I'll say this - you jumped in, which is great. But I've already acknowledged that you, and a couple others to lesser degrees, are straightforward and open about your motive and intent. It's those pretending (or fooling themselves?) it's NOT about ideological gotcha and political payback to whom I've been skeptical.

“The future begins”

Since: Jul 07

every moment

#162805 May 26, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>What "uprising" are you talking about? Are you still stuck on the old talking points that it was a demonstration. There was no "uprising" It was an attack, plain and simple, planned, and all that. And it was known that there would be an attack. Usually if you know you plan your defenses.
You have alot of nerve saying there was no concern for american lives during the Iraq and Afghan wars. There was and is and always will be. Please make sure that you are honest about the numbers There may have been 40,000 injuries but it is more like 7000 deaths. I can't help but compare that to 54,000 deaths during the Vietnam war. That is not to minimize the injured at all, as many will go forward without limbs and with terrible memories. But they tried not to let those people die and each soldier knows they did everything they could to help their brother. Big difference from Benghazi where they were told "don't help" Can you even imagine what that felt like to a soldier? Were you ever a soldier?
>big grin here< Really? Uprising vs attack? That is a salient distinction for you?

"...ya do the hokey-pokey
and ya turn it all about.
That's what it's all about."

>smiley face here<

“"Tanners Flat" U dummy”

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#162806 May 26, 2013
Roberta G wrote:
<quoted text>
Reported.
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>If the name fits it's not namecalling.

The name fits like a glove and other posters agree completely based on the judge-its.

BTW-You have an overbearing ego and that is at the root of your perceived issues. You aren't an authority, you haven't been granted authority, you haven't earned the right to act as an authority, you are a "self appointed authority" like george zimmerman and likewise you often get pummeled for overreaching and overreacting.
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#162807 May 26, 2013
Yellow Star Seed is Back wrote:
#1 Why would I apologize
#2 and why do you feel you need one from me?!?!?
Your post should be directed at RobertaG who suggested to me that an american consulate in bengazi was attacked.....to which I questioned why we have one in bengazi in the first place.
If anyone deserves an apology it is me for having to respond back repeatedly to straighten you out on the facts of the matter, altho I don't need an apology from you or expect one.
<quoted text>
...and I respectfully ask that you learn how to correctly spell the words: Benghazi and Libya. They are not spelled: bengazi and libia.

Four Americans serving this country, protecting your freedoms and representing the United States to the very best of their ability were killed there and the very least you can do is write the names of the city and country where they died with care and accuracy.

It's Memorial Day week-end. I hope you take a moment to remember what that means.

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#162808 May 26, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
...and I respectfully ask that you learn how to correctly spell the words: Benghazi and Libya. They are not spelled: bengazi and libia.
Four Americans serving this country, protecting your freedoms and representing the United States to the very best of their ability were killed there and the very least you can do is write the names of the city and country where they died with care and accuracy.
It's Memorial Day week-end. I hope you take a moment to remember what that means.
Out of ammo today I guess.

Off to the gym.

“Take It To The Limit”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#162809 May 26, 2013
Hip brought up something that mainstream media, the public, and probably most of the world has forgotten. Billions of dollars just disappeared. Not just in bits and pieces, either. I remember a report that a Cargo container full of hundred dollar bills 'went missing'. Nine billion dollars in one shot. I asked back then, 2007, or so, How much did lil georgie get?
All pols know one thing that's written in stone. The public has a Very short memory. Hell, I'd stash a billion dollars for five years. sit on it until everyone forgot about it. Better than the lottery.
Think maybe That's why george w. bush has been quiet as a church mouse since leaving office?
and that nine was only part of the money 'misplaced' over there. one report said that as much as forty five billion is unaccounted for.
Again, how much of it went into gw bush's pocket?

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