Bush is a hero
lisw

Carroll, OH

#162579 May 21, 2013
Roberta G wrote:
AND WHERE OH WHERE IS DS HIGGINS HIDING HIMSELF?!?
DS, old friend, whereever you are, I miss you and I know I'm not the only one.
I miss him too. But I think I understand. It is difficult to tolerate the unbelievable defense of a president who not only is doing a poor job but is hurting this country and its people.

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Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#162581 May 21, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>Please don't complain someone else being childish and stupid while repeating the 'low info voter' line.
It makes you look, well, childish and stupid in your own right.
You have your opinion, same as anyone else.

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#162582 May 21, 2013
bad bob wrote:
<quoted text>
<Attempt #2>
Was planning to skip comment on this one, but it's so utterly childish & inane, I just couldn't let it go.
The gist is that the OPPOSITION (in here and elsewhere) is so ingrained in taking this beloved President down, that NO one cares
a whit about the 4 murdered victims, including Amb Cris Stevens in Benghazi, Libya.
One would think that you'd be just as interested in seeing full disclosure on EVERY single "scandal" as anyone else, regardless of
the picture it paints of your ELECTED President and his Administration. No. You'd rather speculate arrogantly that the opposition couldn't possibly care about the 4 murders in Benghazi. Or could it be that you'd also like to shift all the attention away from this beleaguered admin, if for nothing else, than for them to have time to regroup, or at least catch a breath of air?
Course, with help from some of the MSM, the main focus is how much the GOP stands to gain by endless Congressional hearings trying to get to the truth. Or as the Dems call it, "the latest witch hunt".
Problem is, this Administration is shooting ITSELF in the foot, with absolutely NO help from the GOP. And not just once (F & F), but one right after the other; Benghazi, IRS profiling, AP intrusion, Fox News' James Rosen's privacy invasion, and I believe there are more, out of different Obama departments.
So actually, your bored state doesn't seem to be so important anymore (IMO). Nah. I might be a bit more concerned about being one of the "enablers" that got this joker elected, TWICE!
That is, depending on the outcomes of the current "laundry list" of problems. The low-info supporters still LOVE Obama, no matter how hot the water gets.
Just a Republican witch hunt???

Lois Lerner, a top IRS official in the non-profit division that paralyzed Tea Party groups with ongoing harassment, is expected to invoke the Fifth Amendment and refuse to answer questions during Congressional testimony schedule before the House Oversight Committee on Wednesday.

I know I'd never have to invoke the fifth for anything I did on my job. Why would she need to invoke the fifth if these activities were conducted by a couple of low level flunkies? Why would a public employee not want to answer questions from the peoples committee to oversee programs?

The minute that Lois Lerner refuses to answer questions from the peoples oversight committee as to what she was doing on her job, thereby refusing to tell us what she did for the money we pay her, we no longer need such an employee, and she should be immediately fired.

She may have a Constitutional right to invoke the Fifth Amendment, but she has no right to a public job where she will not disclose what she did/does for the $$$ we pay her.

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#162583 May 21, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>Please don't complain someone else being childish and stupid while repeating the 'low info voter' line.
It makes you look, well, childish and stupid in your own right.
Says one of the "low information voters". In your case though, it's not that you believe the nonsense that this administration puts out, you bury your head in the sand so you don't hear the logic of the opponent.
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#162584 May 22, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
<quoted text>

Lois Lerner, a top IRS official in the non-profit division that paralyzed Tea Party groups with ongoing harassment, is expected to invoke the Fifth Amendment and refuse to answer questions during Congressional testimony schedule before the House Oversight Committee on Wednesday.
Sooooooooo, since old Lois, head of the exempt organizations division, probably won’t answer any questions on what she knew that also means she probably won’t say why she sat on the information for so long before it became public.

Her attorney asked committee Darrell Issa, in a letter if she could skip Wednesday’s hearing since she would be pleading the Fifth. He argued in the letter that forcing her to appear “would have no purpose other than to embarrass or burden her."

Awwww gee. Lois might be embarrassed or burdened by having to show up and plead the 5th multiple times. Too bad for you, Lois!
==
If that were a court of law, the jury would be instructed to not assume guilt becuase of her taking the 5th. In a senate hearing which isn't a court of law, those same instructions don't apply.

If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck.......
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#162585 May 22, 2013
HipGnozizzzzz wrote:
<quoted text>Careful. She can reference ********, but if any male responds on the topic she introduced she'll pull on her Miss Prim bonnet and accuse you of not talkin' proper to the womenfolk.
You don't KNOW what I was referencing. Here. Allow me to give you a typical liberal leftie noncommital response which is common fare for your nontransparent ilk. I could plead the 5th or tell you I'm not a very competent writer but let's try this one on for size instead.
Ready?

Perhaps I was simply suggesting that Catcher get off his knees and stop shining Obama's shoes.
lisw

Carroll, OH

#162586 May 22, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
<quoted text>
Just a Republican witch hunt???
Lois Lerner, a top IRS official in the non-profit division that paralyzed Tea Party groups with ongoing harassment, is expected to invoke the Fifth Amendment and refuse to answer questions during Congressional testimony schedule before the House Oversight Committee on Wednesday.
I know I'd never have to invoke the fifth for anything I did on my job. Why would she need to invoke the fifth if these activities were conducted by a couple of low level flunkies? Why would a public employee not want to answer questions from the peoples committee to oversee programs?
The minute that Lois Lerner refuses to answer questions from the peoples oversight committee as to what she was doing on her job, thereby refusing to tell us what she did for the money we pay her, we no longer need such an employee, and she should be immediately fired.
She may have a Constitutional right to invoke the Fifth Amendment, but she has no right to a public job where she will not disclose what she did/does for the $$$ we pay her.
Good point. As an employee she has an obligation to report her movements.
The day after the election many of the paralyzed groups were unparalyzed. Hmm, wonder why. So much cheating going on in that election. Multiple votes per person, intimidation of union members to vote the way the union commanded, now IRS plan to cripple the opposing candidates. Lyndi if you are right about the long term plan to intimidate voters from donating to republican candidates. They broke this themselves so they could try to control it to be just a couple mixed up underlings because they thought it would throw attention off of Benghazi. Instead it has been found to be much larger and just shows this administration cannot be trusted about anything.
lisw

Carroll, OH

#162587 May 22, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't KNOW what I was referencing. Here. Allow me to give you a typical liberal leftie noncommital response which is common fare for your nontransparent ilk. I could plead the 5th or tell you I'm not a very competent writer but let's try this one on for size instead.
Ready?
Perhaps I was simply suggesting that Catcher get off his knees and stop shining Obama's shoes.
Heh-heh.

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#162588 May 22, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>You don't KNOW what I was referencing. Here. Allow me to give you a typical liberal leftie noncommital response which is common fare for your nontransparent ilk. I could plead the 5th or tell you I'm not a very competent writer but let's try this one on for size instead.
Ready?
Perhaps I was simply suggesting that Catcher get off his knees and stop shining Obama's shoes.
I thought you were suggesting that Catcher get off his knees and stop sharpening the crease in obama's slacks, the creases that make barry pResidential material to some.

I wonder what Catcher thought you meant...

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Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#162589 May 22, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
<quoted text>
Says one of the "low information voters". In your case though, it's not that you believe the nonsense that this administration puts out, you bury your head in the sand so you don't hear the logic of the opponent.
Don't confuse rejecting 'logic' with not hearing it, bobin.

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Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#162591 May 22, 2013
So now Lois Lerner is doing a Monica Goodling ... in the words of John Prine, "The faces change, the lines all stay the same."
lisw

Carroll, OH

#162593 May 22, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
So now Lois Lerner is doing a Monica Goodling ... in the words of John Prine, "The faces change, the lines all stay the same."
And in your mind that makes it just another day in paradise. Brilliant...

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#162594 May 22, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
So now Lois Lerner is doing a Monica Goodling ... in the words of John Prine, "The faces change, the lines all stay the same."
Why would a public employee refuse to tell the people's oversight committee what she did or does? Does she deserve to continue to receive a paycheck from those same people that she refuses to tell what she did/does to earn it? Should she be fired immediately?
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#162595 May 22, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
So now Lois Lerner is doing a Monica Goodling ... in the words of John Prine, "The faces change, the lines all stay the same."
... and back to Bush we go. That's okay. I understand your need to do that.


In more recent history and probably fresher in everyones mind than Monica Goodling would be the Fifth Amendment having been cited during probes of the Solyndra energy loan in 2011 and the General Services Administration (overseeing the ridiculously lavish 2010 Las Vegas convention) both of which occured under Obama and both of which had to do with the use, abuse and misuse of taxpayer money. Now we have behind door number #3----> one Ms. Lois Lerner, who surprise, surprise also has to do with taxpayers and their money.

Do you see a pattern here?

Do you see a pattern here?
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#162596 May 22, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
<quoted text>
Does she deserve to continue to receive a paycheck from those same people that she refuses to tell what she did/does to earn it? Should she be fired immediately?
Why shouldn't she get paid? She hasn't been found guilty of anything and before she's fired, a full investigation would have to be completed and she'd have to be found culpable.
===

Here you go. This will make your day. The Department of Defense confirms that accused Fort Hood shooter Major Hasan has now been paid more than $278,000 since the Nov. 2009 shooting that left 13 dead and 32 injured. The Army said under the Military Code of Justice, Hasan’s salary cannot be suspended unless he is proven guilty.

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#162597 May 22, 2013
bad bob wrote:
<quoted text>
<Attempt #2>
Was planning to skip comment on this one, but it's so utterly childish & inane, I just couldn't let it go.
The gist is that the OPPOSITION (in here and elsewhere) is so ingrained in taking this beloved President down, that NO one cares
a whit about the 4 murdered victims, including Amb Cris Stevens in Benghazi, Libya.

One would think that you'd be just as interested in seeing full disclosure on EVERY single "scandal" as anyone else, regardless of
the picture it paints of your ELECTED President and his Administration. No. You'd rather speculate arrogantly that the opposition couldn't possibly care about the 4 murders in Benghazi. Or could it be that you'd also like to shift all the attention away from this beleaguered admin, if for nothing else, than for them to have time to regroup, or at least catch a breath of air?

Course, with help from some of the MSM, the main focus is how much the GOP stands to gain by endless Congressional hearings trying to get to the truth. Or as the Dems call it, "the latest witch hunt".
Problem is, this Administration is shooting ITSELF in the foot, with absolutely NO help from the GOP. And not just once (F & F), but one right after the other; Benghazi, IRS profiling, AP intrusion, Fox News' James Rosen's privacy invasion, and I believe there are more, out of different Obama departments.

So actually, your bored state doesn't seem to be so important anymore (IMO). Nah. I might be a bit more concerned about being one of the "enablers" that got this joker elected, TWICE!
That is, depending on the outcomes of the current "laundry list" of problems. The low-info supporters still LOVE Obama, no matter how hot the water gets.
And YOU liked MINE?? Bravo, BB :)

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#162598 May 22, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
So now Lois Lerner is doing a Monica Goodling ... in the words of John Prine, "The faces change, the lines all stay the same."
Then it's time to change the lines. Obama is horrible, an ideologue who will stop at nothing to force his vision of a socialist America on Americans. Even if you don't believe that, Willie, I can't believe that YOU, of all people, are so blind as to think he's been a GOOD President. For heaven's sake, Willie, STOP MAKING EXCUSES for this travesty of a President.

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#162599 May 22, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
... and back to Bush we go. That's okay. I understand your need to do that.
In more recent history and probably fresher in everyones mind than Monica Goodling would be the Fifth Amendment having been cited during probes of the Solyndra energy loan in 2011 and the General Services Administration (overseeing the ridiculously lavish 2010 Las Vegas convention) both of which occured under Obama and both of which had to do with the use, abuse and misuse of taxpayer money. Now we have behind door number #3----> one Ms. Lois Lerner, who surprise, surprise also has to do with taxpayers and their money.
Do you see a pattern here?
Do you see a pattern here?
Willie? Probably not.

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Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#162600 May 22, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
<quoted text>
Why would a public employee refuse to tell the people's oversight committee what she did or does? Does she deserve to continue to receive a paycheck from those same people that she refuses to tell what she did/does to earn it? Should she be fired immediately?
I don't know whether the IRS employee is making some kind of political statement about the inquiry or is genuinely concerned about self incrimination in criminal acts, but if I was to guess it would be the former.

I don't know if she CAN be fired for exercising her 5th amendment rights, although there are different rules for political appointees and civil service employees.

I'm only casually familiar with the legal precedents regarding exercising 5th amendment rights before Congress, but I think it mostly goes back to the 50s/McCarthy era.

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Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#162601 May 22, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
... and back to Bush we go. That's okay. I understand your need to do that.
In more recent history and probably fresher in everyones mind than Monica Goodling would be the Fifth Amendment having been cited during probes of the Solyndra energy loan in 2011 and the General Services Administration (overseeing the ridiculously lavish 2010 Las Vegas convention) both of which occured under Obama and both of which had to do with the use, abuse and misuse of taxpayer money. Now we have behind door number #3----> one Ms. Lois Lerner, who surprise, surprise also has to do with taxpayers and their money.
Do you see a pattern here?
Do you see a pattern here?
You need Karl or a hyper-partisan shill like him to come back and play a game of scandal tit-for-tat with you.

As I've told you before, I'm not interested.

I do see a pattern here. That's why I mentioned Goodling, but it's not to change the subject to Bush.

The pattern occurs in the balance between the legislative and the executive. The pattern occurs in the political machinations around the majority's use (abuse?) of the legislative branch's investigative authority of the executive for political purposes.

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