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#162165 May 13, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
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3) Dept of Justice SECRETLY collects phone records of AP Reporters
"Never pick a fight with someone who buys ink by the barrel" -Mark Twain
This may become barry's Waterloo. This action by the obama administration could even wind up pissing off his loyal stenographers in the main-stream media.
It could indeed. Any politician, regardless of party affiliation, who picks on one of the media's own, might as well fall on his own sword. I honestly think that is the ONE & ONLY thing the media will not tolerate from any politician, no matter who the pol is. Not even rock-star media-darling Obama :)

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#162166 May 13, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>I can't help but be reminded of OJ Simpson and his wife's murder and then the storming of a hotel to retrieve his belongings. He got off on the first and on the second claimed he didn't know he was doing anything wrong. Sounds an awful lot like Obama, Benghazi and the IRS.(BTW did you know that when a leather glove gets wet, like with water or blood, it shrinks, alot! But if it doesn't fit you must acquit.)
I think that's where the prosecution really messed up.#1--an expert in leather goods should have given his professional opinions, etc. about the gloves.#2) Simpson drew on the gloves himself at the trial. As a lawyer friend of mine told me, they should have been put on him by a BAILIFF. How easy it must have been for Simpson to pretend they didn't fit :P

Too bad Leroy Jethro Gibbs didn't have charge of gathering evidence ;)

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#162167 May 13, 2013
Roberta G wrote:
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I think that's where the prosecution really messed up.#1--an expert in leather goods should have given his professional opinions, etc. about the gloves.#2) Simpson drew on the gloves himself at the trial. As a lawyer friend of mine told me, they should have been put on him by a BAILIFF. How easy it must have been for Simpson to pretend they didn't fit :P
Too bad Leroy Jethro Gibbs didn't have charge of gathering evidence ;)
Gibbs' hand would have been beet red from all the head slaps.

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#162168 May 13, 2013
bad bob wrote:
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<FOLLOW UP>
Just learned that the estimated time of arrival for a fighter squadron out of Sigonella NAS, near Catania (Sicily), to Benghazi Libya was between 23-25 minutes.
I believe that Africom dropped the ball, and if a terrorist attack was ongoing for 6-7 hours or more, should have requested air strikes. I understand Gates' reluctance, but with the US's high tech in both munitions and pilot radar alerts to avoid incoming SAM missiles, using countermeasures, etc., I don't think the risk was a nearly as high as "advertised.
You're putting your DESIRE for something to have been done (or done wrong) so far beyond our actual capabilities that it's not funny, especially the ease with which you dismiss the threat of SAMs, but I'll play along.

Was there a fighter squadron at Sig (there usually isn't)? What was its ready status (time required to launch)? How were the planes configured and armed, and (if necessary) how long would it take them to be ready for the mission you're tasking them with? What provisions had been made for refueling, if necessary? What intel did we have on SAMs among the militias active in Libya? What intel did we have on the relative positions of the good guys and bad guys (assuming the most positive arrangement of all the questions before, the most critical question of all)?

You have answers to those questions, bob - or is all you've got "well, we're good and we got good stuff and we shoulda done something" going for you?

Without answers to those questions, bob, you might as well re-fight the Battle of Midway or better penetrate the airspace around Hanoi during Rolling Thunder.

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#162169 May 13, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
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My Naval assignment was to knock aircraft out of the sky. What I found troubling was that the aircraft had anti-ship missles that had much longer range than our anti-aircraft missles.(The aircraft could fire at us before we could fire at them). Saddam found out that we had that capability too.
Apparently the sky wasn't dangerous for the two unarmed drones we had flying over the consulate to send video back to the State Dept and the WH. Why would we bother getting our planes in range of their anti-air missles. They were being laser painted, use our smart missles to take them out... you don't need to wait until you see the whites of their eyes anymore.
But, one thing you do need to do... put the attack aircraft in the air.
The danger wasn't from radar controlled missiles on the ground; the air forces took all or most of them out in the first week of the campaign.

The danger was from the terrorist formerly named Muammar with a shoulder mounted weapon taken from Qaddafi's secret stash, and they're heat seeking, not radar guided.

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#162170 May 13, 2013
Roberta G wrote:
I gotta say--BOY, am I glad I've finally got that done :)
That makes two of us.

As you know, I didn't vote for Obama, and to the best of my knowledge, Soros hasn't run - sorry, but I don't have the sort of resources it would take, to revoke his freedom of speech...either personal or corporate.

If I was to post all the similarly politically-oriented efforts in the other direction, which have affected our political scene at LEAST as much as those of Soros, on the part of the Koch brothers, I would be here typing non-stop for three days. You're definitely the more dedicated between us.

Good job.

“The future begins”

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#162171 May 13, 2013
Roberta G wrote:
FINALLY :)
MORE GEORGE SOROS-SUBSIDIZED ORGANIZATIONS:
The Southern Poverty Law Center?

The NAACP?

The Young Women's Christian Association?

Really?

These are among the "leftist" groups that threaten to take down America?

Obviously you didn't write this. But what you've done by pasting it is align yourself with those who oppose - oppose - the democratic ideals that formed this country. You, through them, oppose the free exchange of ideas. You, through them, tacitly abhor the democratic process. You, through them, despise the idea that it's the amalgamating differences that make up the American melting pot that launched us ahead of the globe in the last century and a half. You, through them, would silence - not counter, but silence - any and all views different from your own. You would sanitize our society of dissent from your views. You would homogenize American society for YOUR comfort. How? By marginalizing them, misrepresenting them, demonizing them, making them pariah, labeling them traitors. Why? So your world will feel all cozy and clean....

ONLY for those whose views align with your own.

There ain't nuthin' American about that.

Good gawd. The NAACP. >Still< on the white-hot seat. Like the Prophet said, ain't nuthin' new under the sun.

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#162172 May 13, 2013
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>The Southern Poverty Law Center?
The NAACP?
The Young Women's Christian Association?
Really?
These are among the "leftist" groups that threaten to take down America?
Obviously you didn't write this. But what you've done by pasting it is align yourself with those who oppose - oppose - the democratic ideals that formed this country. You, through them, oppose the free exchange of ideas. You, through them, tacitly abhor the democratic process. You, through them, despise the idea that it's the amalgamating differences that make up the American melting pot that launched us ahead of the globe in the last century and a half. You, through them, would silence - not counter, but silence - any and all views different from your own. You would sanitize our society of dissent from your views. You would homogenize American society for YOUR comfort. How? By marginalizing them, misrepresenting them, demonizing them, making them pariah, labeling them traitors. Why? So your world will feel all cozy and clean....
ONLY for those whose views align with your own.
There ain't nuthin' American about that.
Good gawd. The NAACP. >Still< on the white-hot seat. Like the Prophet said, ain't nuthin' new under the sun.
Well stated.

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#162173 May 13, 2013
Roberta G wrote:
(Continued from ”THE SHARED AGENDAS OF GEORGE SOROS AND BARACK OBAMA”)
Soon thereafter, as one of the first priorities of his presidency, Obama pressured Congress to pass a monumental $787 billion economic-stimulus bill whose text was 1,071 pages long¬ and which few, if any, legislators read before voting on it. Obama stressed the urgency of passing this bill at the earliest possible moment…Notably, the legislation repealed numerous essentials of the 1996 welfare-reform bill against which George Soros had so strongly rebelled. According to a Heritage Foundation report, 32 percent of the new stimulus bill—or an average of $6,700 in “new means-tested welfare spending” for every poor person in the U.S.—was earmarked for social-welfare programs. Such unprecedented levels of spending did not at all trouble Soros, who said:“At times of recession, running a budget deficit is highly desirable.” In December 2009, Obama concurred again—outlining a set of new multibillion-dollar stimulus and jobs proposals while explaining that America must continue to “spend our way out of this recession.
__________
(CONCLUSION)
Now, I could have posted a lot more from this particular website or the others I’ve found, but I trust I’ve made my point. Make no mistake about it, Kat: Soros is the spider at the center of a very large, very well-funded, very leftist web.
Soros is a traitor. T-R-A-I-T-O-R. EVERYTHING he stands for, everything he says, everything he supports with his money and his power is aimed at undermining this nation.
I am not one of those people who sees a plot under every bush, a conspiracy behind every tree. I believe Oswald acted alone, America did not attack itself on September 11, 2001 and FDR did not know about, let alone connive at the attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941. I don’t believe HIV was developed to kill blacks. I don’t even believe the astronauts that have landed on the moon were either privy to or victims of a conspiracy to make people think the moon landing(s) were just highly convincing uses of Hollywood-type special effects: I think the moon landings really DID happen.
But in this particular case, I think there really IS a conspiracy. Soros is indeed actively working to make America a communist, welfare state, and part of a larger One World Government.(Now, THAT part I’ve only just learned—by golly, some people really ARE trying to create a OWG. Who’da thunk it??)
Kat, your original question to me “Why do you believe Obama is Soros’ puppet?” or words to that effect (I’m not going back to double-check). He is definitely Soros’ INSTRUMENT. He shares Soros’ political agenda to the extent that if Soros were to vanish into thin air tomorrow, Obama’s goals for this nation would not be the least bit affected. Summing up, I don’t know that Obama is Soros’ PUPPET, as such. I think it’s more accurate to say that Obama is Soros’ EMPLOYEE.
How did WIR steal BobbiG's avatar?
This scares the bejesus out of me. I keep thinking someone's gonna steal mine and have me saying nice things about obama.
Oh, yeah. The only reason michelle sold her aluminum foil dress is, she said it got wet, shrunk up and didn't fit her anymore.

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#162179 May 13, 2013
Rudyard Kiplingesque wrote:
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How did WIR steal BobbiG's avatar?
This scares the bejesus out of me. I keep thinking someone's gonna steal mine and have me saying nice things about obama.
Oh, yeah. The only reason michelle sold her aluminum foil dress is, she said it got wet, shrunk up and didn't fit her anymore.
I think it was caused by too much lavish vacation dining and the ribs at all the Whitehouse parties... not aluminum shrinkage.
:)

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#162183 May 13, 2013
BobinTX wrote:
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Gibbs' hand would have been beet red from all the head slaps.
Good point :D

With all the rehearsing and filming, do you suppose the actors playing Tony, McGee, Ziva and Abby ever have concussions?

I love the whole bunch of 'em :) I can't believe I only started watching this show over the last couple of years! I should have started on it from the series premiere.

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#162186 May 13, 2013
UidiotRaceMakeWOrldPeace wrote:
<quoted text>You really slap Robertg down to hell! BAHAHAHAHAA
I disagree.

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#162187 May 13, 2013
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>That makes two of us.
As you know, I didn't vote for Obama, and to the best of my knowledge, Soros hasn't run - sorry, but I don't have the sort of resources it would take, to revoke his freedom of speech...either personal or corporate.

If I was to post all the similarly politically-oriented efforts in the other direction, which have affected our political scene at LEAST as much as those of Soros, on the part of the Koch brothers, I would be here typing non-stop for three days. You're definitely the more dedicated between us.
Good job.
Thanks, but I wasn't THAT dedicated. If I had been, I'd have finished and posted all that two weeks ago.

Who said anything about revoking Soros' freedom of speech? I'm gonna say this one more time--and if anyone else on the thread thinks it's meant for them, then it probably is.

That string of posts is NOT meant as a jumping-off point for debating policy(ies). As you said, Kat, for that I could have been typing non-stop for days, and I haven't the slightest inclination to do that. My purpose in all those posts was ONLY to demonstrate the ties between Obama and Soros. Make of the information what you will :)

“I'm here with bells on.”

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#162189 May 13, 2013
UidiotRaceMakeWOrldPeace wrote:
<quoted text>Why
?
Ok then down to earth!
Firstly, because I don't believe in hell...

and secondly, because Roberta is relatively un-slappable...she doen't have the emotional investment in this forum that you evidently do.

:)

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#162191 May 13, 2013
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>The Southern Poverty Law Center?
The NAACP?
The Young Women's Christian Association?
Really?
These are among the "leftist" groups that threaten to take down America?

Obviously you didn't write this. But what you've done by pasting it is align yourself with those who oppose - oppose - the democratic ideals that formed this country. You, through them, oppose the free exchange of ideas. You, through them, tacitly abhor the democratic process. You, through them, despise the idea that it's the amalgamating differences that make up the American melting pot that launched us ahead of the globe in the last century and a half. You, through them, would silence - not counter, but silence - any and all views different from your own. You would sanitize our society of dissent from your views. You would homogenize American society for YOUR comfort. How? By marginalizing them, misrepresenting them, demonizing them, making them pariah, labeling them traitors. Why? So your world will feel all cozy and clean....

ONLY for those whose views align with your own.
There ain't nuthin' American about that.
Good gawd. The NAACP. >Still< on the white-hot seat. Like the Prophet said, ain't nuthin' new under the sun.
I see this post of yours has already garnered two Clueless, one Nuts and one Spam icons. I'm not surprised. Obviously, Hip, you didn't bother to actually READ what those organizations do and stand for.

Some of them actually do work I not only agree with, but even admire. I admire efforts to get people registered to vote who never would have voted before, for instance. And being the fair, honorable, trustworthy (and modest) person I am, where those organizations do work that I can support, I was honor-bound to include them. I am not the kind of person who would deliberately omit information simply because it did not support my case. Hip, you've seriously disappointed me. By now you should know me better than that.

By the way, that post you addressed to me a couple of weeks ago, similar to this one--I plan to address that in the next couple of days, hopefully tomorrow.

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#162192 May 13, 2013
Correction--2 Clueless, 1 Nuts and 1 Disagree icons.

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#162193 May 13, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>You're putting your DESIRE for something to have been done (or done wrong) so far beyond our actual capabilities that it's not funny, especially the ease with which you dismiss the threat of SAMs, but I'll play along.
Was there a fighter squadron at Sig (there usually isn't)? What was its ready status (time required to launch)? How were the planes configured and armed, and (if necessary) how long would it take them to be ready for the mission you're tasking them with? What provisions had been made for refueling, if necessary? What intel did we have on SAMs among the militias active in Libya? What intel did we have on the relative positions of the good guys and bad guys (assuming the most positive arrangement of all the questions before, the most critical question of all)?
You have answers to those questions, bob - or is all you've got "well, we're good and we got good stuff and we shoulda done something" going for you?
Without answers to those questions, bob, you might as well re-fight the Battle of Midway or better penetrate the airspace around Hanoi during Rolling Thunder.
These links may answer some of your questions. I read all 5 of them, considered the source and went from there.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-22307...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2012/10...

http://rt.com/usa/special-forces-benghazi-pur...

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/pr...

http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/05/08/... #

This one I just found very interesting:
http://www.blackfive.net/main/2012/10/bigger-...

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#162194 May 13, 2013
Roberta G wrote:
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Thanks, but I wasn't THAT dedicated. If I had been, I'd have finished and posted all that two weeks ago.
Who said anything about revoking Soros' freedom of speech? I'm gonna say this one more time--and if anyone else on the thread thinks it's meant for them, then it probably is.
That string of posts is NOT meant as a jumping-off point for debating policy(ies). As you said, Kat, for that I could have been typing non-stop for days, and I haven't the slightest inclination to do that. My purpose in all those posts was ONLY to demonstrate the ties between Obama and Soros. Make of the information what you will :)
Given my unwillingness to spend three non-stop days typing, not to mention the countless hours of necessary research, I don't know this for a stone fact - but I'm relatively certain that a detailed synopsis of the Koch Brothers' political agenda, and efforts in the political spectrum, would be a stark indication of their hand in glove associations with Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld, not to mention with the American Legislative Exchange Council...and I am exceptionally opposed to the efforts of THAT worthy body... which seems to be setting policy for Republican candidates across the nation.

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#162196 May 13, 2013
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>'Cos SecDef is just another joe's opinion....
No. Gate's is a politician not a fighter jet pilot.

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

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#162197 May 13, 2013
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>Given my unwillingness to spend three non-stop days typing, not to mention the countless hours of necessary research, I don't know this for a stone fact - but I'm relatively certain that a detailed synopsis of the Koch Brothers' political agenda, and efforts in the political spectrum, would be a stark indication of their hand in glove associations with Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld, not to mention with the American Legislative Exchange Council...and I am exceptionally opposed to the efforts of THAT worthy body... which seems to be setting policy for Republican candidates across the nation.
Are the Koch Bros. spending billions of $$ to change America to their vision of a secular-progressive socialist country? SOROS is!

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