Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#161093 Apr 9, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>No, government deserves the credit. "they didn't do that" by themselves.
:)
Don't forget the coach.

“Rainbow: God's covenant ”

Since: May 07

Clearwater and Honolulu

#161094 Apr 9, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>No, government deserves the credit. "they didn't do that" by themselves.
:)
A few things our fine gov has done of late: The U.S. Treasury said that a few obama friends Jay Z and Bounce were licensed for a "people to people cultural exchange" in Cuba. The obama admin is still using people that lost children at Sandy Hook for all its worth with his propaganda on guns. An msnbc add now says your children no longer belong to you, they are part of a collective. A few laws were broken with bugs placed in an office of Mitch McConell.(Hey when you have to smear the right laws mean nothing) And in Prowers county Co. an undersheriff soon to work for DHS (thanks a lot Bush) is saying the gov once again better watch those Christians. Btw I know the msnbc thing isn't gov but its kind of hard to see much a difference anymore. Life is grand under Pres Nixon. I mean obama.

“Rainbow: God's covenant ”

Since: May 07

Clearwater and Honolulu

#161095 Apr 9, 2013
Roberta G wrote:
<quoted text>
Spot-on, Lyndi.
I first heard of Dr. Carson at least 20 years ago, when I read a Reader's Digest article about him. He seems to be exploding into the national consciousness now, and I can't think of a finer role model for young black men and women to look up to--or ANY American child, for that matter :)
Indeed. Of note to me is the guy is a brain surgeon. I have no clue what it takes to get to that level but would think that politics aside people would repect him for his hard work. Since he spoke at the prayer breakfast I've leaned for the left nothing else matters, anyone on the right will be destroyed. And God help you if you are black and on the right. Quite sad indeed.

Since: Jun 08

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#161096 Apr 9, 2013
Willie (and Hip and BH) just to let you know, I appreciate your willingness to have the discussion about the great society. The reason I'm not saying much further is I doubt we will ever see eye to eye. I do believe that most liberals mean well and that it is only a few who wanted to define and own black people for political gain. But can I suggest a good read. It's called the "Invisible Thread". It's non-fiction and not written for any political purpose. it's just a story, but it says so well what I am worried about.

“2016 No Clinton No Bush!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#161097 Apr 9, 2013
lisw wrote:
Willie (and Hip and BH) just to let you know, I appreciate your willingness to have the discussion about the great society. The reason I'm not saying much further is I doubt we will ever see eye to eye. I do believe that most liberals mean well and that it is only a few who wanted to define and own black people for political gain. But can I suggest a good read. It's called the "Invisible Thread". It's non-fiction and not written for any political purpose. it's just a story, but it says so well what I am worried about.
I also thought we'd reached an impasse.

Since: Apr 07

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#161098 Apr 9, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Speaking of what we see, nice avatar.
Well, thank you :)

“2016 No Clinton No Bush!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#161099 Apr 9, 2013
lisw wrote:
Willie (and Hip and BH) just to let you know, I appreciate your willingness to have the discussion about the great society. The reason I'm not saying much further is I doubt we will ever see eye to eye. I do believe that most liberals mean well and that it is only a few who wanted to define and own black people for political gain. But can I suggest a good read. It's called the "Invisible Thread". It's non-fiction and not written for any political purpose. it's just a story, but it says so well what I am worried about.
I'm puzzled about one thing, lisw, and maybe I have been all along.

I thought we were talking about public housing and welfare both today and in the past. Were you simply talking about the Great Society, the sixties programs?

“Take It To The Limit”

Since: Mar 11

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#161100 Apr 10, 2013
lisw wrote:
Willie (and Hip and BH) just to let you know, I appreciate your willingness to have the discussion about the great society. The reason I'm not saying much further is I doubt we will ever see eye to eye. I do believe that most liberals mean well and that it is only a few who wanted to define and own black people for political gain. But can I suggest a good read. It's called the "Invisible Thread". It's non-fiction and not written for any political purpose. it's just a story, but it says so well what I am worried about.
Hi Lis. I always wonder why some folks goal is to 'see eye to eye' on any given subject. A discussion can be more lively when we Don't see eye to eye. In fact, seeing something from someone else's point of view can give us a new perspective.
If everybody agreed on everything, we'd stagnate and die. BTW, is that what happened to okb? did he stagnate and die? Boy, talk about an opposing view. No matter what ANYONE said, he'd tell 'em they were wrong.
Do you guys miss him?

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

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#161101 Apr 10, 2013
Rudyard Kiplingesque wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Lis. I always wonder why some folks goal is to 'see eye to eye' on any given subject. A discussion can be more lively when we Don't see eye to eye. In fact, seeing something from someone else's point of view can give us a new perspective.
If everybody agreed on everything, we'd stagnate and die. BTW, is that what happened to okb? did he stagnate and die? Boy, talk about an opposing view. No matter what ANYONE said, he'd tell 'em they were wrong.
Do you guys miss him?
I can only speak for myself, but...

no.

The ones I miss are Higgins, Pernrider, and you.

Glad at least one of you is back.
:)

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#161102 Apr 10, 2013
lisw wrote:
Willie (and Hip and BH) just to let you know, I appreciate your willingness to have the discussion about the great society. The reason I'm not saying much further is I doubt we will ever see eye to eye. I do believe that most liberals mean well and that it is only a few who wanted to define and own black people for political gain. But can I suggest a good read. It's called the "Invisible Thread". It's non-fiction and not written for any political purpose. it's just a story, but it says so well what I am worried about.
The failure to recognize the Southern strategy invented by Nixon's 1968 campaign, and its subsequent fine tuning, complete with dog whistles to an increasingly embittered and struggling working white class anxious for scapegoats (as has been true since reconstruction for economically struggling Southerners and increasingly, Northerners), allows rightists to paint a picture of "liberals" keeping racial minorities captive through "handouts," never mind that the bulk of the "handouts" go to struggling whites. Long sentence. You parse it.

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#161103 Apr 10, 2013
Rudyard Kiplingesque wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Lis. I always wonder why some folks goal is to 'see eye to eye' on any given subject. A discussion can be more lively when we Don't see eye to eye. In fact, seeing something from someone else's point of view can give us a new perspective.
If everybody agreed on everything, we'd stagnate and die. BTW, is that what happened to okb? did he stagnate and die? Boy, talk about an opposing view. No matter what ANYONE said, he'd tell 'em they were wrong.
Do you guys miss him?
This is an old one but..........

..........nah, I'll just RELOAD!

“2016 No Clinton No Bush!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#161105 Apr 10, 2013
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>The failure to recognize the Southern strategy invented by Nixon's 1968 campaign, and its subsequent fine tuning, complete with dog whistles to an increasingly embittered and struggling working white class anxious for scapegoats (as has been true since reconstruction for economically struggling Southerners and increasingly, Northerners), allows rightists to paint a picture of "liberals" keeping racial minorities captive through "handouts," never mind that the bulk of the "handouts" go to struggling whites. Long sentence. You parse it.
Those things are true, and relevant to a general discussion of race in American politics, but not to a discussion of the transgressions of liberals.

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

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#161106 Apr 10, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>Those things are true, and relevant to a general discussion of race in American politics, but not to a discussion of the transgressions of liberals.
Pardon. I must have misunderstood the gist of the discussion.

*quiet cough*
HipGnosis

Altona, IL

#161109 Apr 10, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>Those things are true, and relevant to a general discussion of race in American politics, but not to a discussion of the transgressions of liberals.
True enough on point, Yer Honor, but since the corollary topic of vote-pandering was (and is continuously) introduced by the affirmative side of the debate, rebuttal on that point is requested to be allowed into evidence.
;)

“2016 No Clinton No Bush!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#161110 Apr 10, 2013
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>True enough on point, Yer Honor, but since the corollary topic of vote-pandering was (and is continuously) introduced by the affirmative side of the debate, rebuttal on that point is requested to be allowed into evidence.
;)
;-}

Permission granted, but ... good luck with that.

Since: Apr 07

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#161111 Apr 10, 2013
Rudyard Kiplingesque wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Lis. I always wonder why some folks goal is to 'see eye to eye' on any given subject. A discussion can be more lively when we Don't see eye to eye. In fact, seeing something from someone else's point of view can give us a new perspective.

If everybody agreed on everything, we'd stagnate and die. BTW, is that what happened to okb? did he stagnate and die? Boy, talk about an opposing view. No matter what ANYONE said, he'd tell 'em they were wrong.
Do you guys miss him?
I do, a little. I wouldn't mind if he came back.

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#161112 Apr 10, 2013
Roberta G wrote:
<quoted text>
I do, a little. I wouldn't mind if he came back.
OMG! Go to yer room and don't come out until I tell ye.
FoolyAutomated

Charlestown, IN

#161113 Apr 10, 2013
Since Bush is 14th cousin to queen Elizabeth and Both are Zionists who do not believe in independent nations , why support either ? Which President has NOT been a traitor ?

Since: Apr 07

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#161115 Apr 10, 2013
bad bob wrote:
<quoted text>
OMG! Go to yer room and don't come out until I tell ye.
I take it you don't share my opinion. Gee, that's awful, BB ;) Maybe you should treat yourself to a hot fudge sundae to soothe the pain ;)

Since: Apr 07

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#161116 Apr 10, 2013
FoolyAutomated wrote:
Since Bush is 14th cousin to queen Elizabeth and Both are Zionists who do not believe in independent nations , why support either ? Which President has NOT been a traitor ?
Until the current POTUS, none of them.

Your nick is fitting, since you clearly ARE a fool.

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