Bush is a hero

“Help Cecil Help!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#161099 Apr 9, 2013
lisw wrote:
Willie (and Hip and BH) just to let you know, I appreciate your willingness to have the discussion about the great society. The reason I'm not saying much further is I doubt we will ever see eye to eye. I do believe that most liberals mean well and that it is only a few who wanted to define and own black people for political gain. But can I suggest a good read. It's called the "Invisible Thread". It's non-fiction and not written for any political purpose. it's just a story, but it says so well what I am worried about.
I'm puzzled about one thing, lisw, and maybe I have been all along.

I thought we were talking about public housing and welfare both today and in the past. Were you simply talking about the Great Society, the sixties programs?

“Take It To The Limit”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#161100 Apr 10, 2013
lisw wrote:
Willie (and Hip and BH) just to let you know, I appreciate your willingness to have the discussion about the great society. The reason I'm not saying much further is I doubt we will ever see eye to eye. I do believe that most liberals mean well and that it is only a few who wanted to define and own black people for political gain. But can I suggest a good read. It's called the "Invisible Thread". It's non-fiction and not written for any political purpose. it's just a story, but it says so well what I am worried about.
Hi Lis. I always wonder why some folks goal is to 'see eye to eye' on any given subject. A discussion can be more lively when we Don't see eye to eye. In fact, seeing something from someone else's point of view can give us a new perspective.
If everybody agreed on everything, we'd stagnate and die. BTW, is that what happened to okb? did he stagnate and die? Boy, talk about an opposing view. No matter what ANYONE said, he'd tell 'em they were wrong.
Do you guys miss him?

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#161101 Apr 10, 2013
Rudyard Kiplingesque wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Lis. I always wonder why some folks goal is to 'see eye to eye' on any given subject. A discussion can be more lively when we Don't see eye to eye. In fact, seeing something from someone else's point of view can give us a new perspective.
If everybody agreed on everything, we'd stagnate and die. BTW, is that what happened to okb? did he stagnate and die? Boy, talk about an opposing view. No matter what ANYONE said, he'd tell 'em they were wrong.
Do you guys miss him?
I can only speak for myself, but...

no.

The ones I miss are Higgins, Pernrider, and you.

Glad at least one of you is back.
:)

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#161102 Apr 10, 2013
lisw wrote:
Willie (and Hip and BH) just to let you know, I appreciate your willingness to have the discussion about the great society. The reason I'm not saying much further is I doubt we will ever see eye to eye. I do believe that most liberals mean well and that it is only a few who wanted to define and own black people for political gain. But can I suggest a good read. It's called the "Invisible Thread". It's non-fiction and not written for any political purpose. it's just a story, but it says so well what I am worried about.
The failure to recognize the Southern strategy invented by Nixon's 1968 campaign, and its subsequent fine tuning, complete with dog whistles to an increasingly embittered and struggling working white class anxious for scapegoats (as has been true since reconstruction for economically struggling Southerners and increasingly, Northerners), allows rightists to paint a picture of "liberals" keeping racial minorities captive through "handouts," never mind that the bulk of the "handouts" go to struggling whites. Long sentence. You parse it.

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#161103 Apr 10, 2013
Rudyard Kiplingesque wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Lis. I always wonder why some folks goal is to 'see eye to eye' on any given subject. A discussion can be more lively when we Don't see eye to eye. In fact, seeing something from someone else's point of view can give us a new perspective.
If everybody agreed on everything, we'd stagnate and die. BTW, is that what happened to okb? did he stagnate and die? Boy, talk about an opposing view. No matter what ANYONE said, he'd tell 'em they were wrong.
Do you guys miss him?
This is an old one but..........

..........nah, I'll just RELOAD!

“Help Cecil Help!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#161105 Apr 10, 2013
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>The failure to recognize the Southern strategy invented by Nixon's 1968 campaign, and its subsequent fine tuning, complete with dog whistles to an increasingly embittered and struggling working white class anxious for scapegoats (as has been true since reconstruction for economically struggling Southerners and increasingly, Northerners), allows rightists to paint a picture of "liberals" keeping racial minorities captive through "handouts," never mind that the bulk of the "handouts" go to struggling whites. Long sentence. You parse it.
Those things are true, and relevant to a general discussion of race in American politics, but not to a discussion of the transgressions of liberals.

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#161106 Apr 10, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>Those things are true, and relevant to a general discussion of race in American politics, but not to a discussion of the transgressions of liberals.
Pardon. I must have misunderstood the gist of the discussion.

*quiet cough*
HipGnosis

Dahinda, IL

#161109 Apr 10, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>Those things are true, and relevant to a general discussion of race in American politics, but not to a discussion of the transgressions of liberals.
True enough on point, Yer Honor, but since the corollary topic of vote-pandering was (and is continuously) introduced by the affirmative side of the debate, rebuttal on that point is requested to be allowed into evidence.
;)

“Help Cecil Help!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#161110 Apr 10, 2013
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>True enough on point, Yer Honor, but since the corollary topic of vote-pandering was (and is continuously) introduced by the affirmative side of the debate, rebuttal on that point is requested to be allowed into evidence.
;)
;-}

Permission granted, but ... good luck with that.

Since: Apr 07

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#161111 Apr 10, 2013
Rudyard Kiplingesque wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Lis. I always wonder why some folks goal is to 'see eye to eye' on any given subject. A discussion can be more lively when we Don't see eye to eye. In fact, seeing something from someone else's point of view can give us a new perspective.

If everybody agreed on everything, we'd stagnate and die. BTW, is that what happened to okb? did he stagnate and die? Boy, talk about an opposing view. No matter what ANYONE said, he'd tell 'em they were wrong.
Do you guys miss him?
I do, a little. I wouldn't mind if he came back.

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#161112 Apr 10, 2013
Roberta G wrote:
<quoted text>
I do, a little. I wouldn't mind if he came back.
OMG! Go to yer room and don't come out until I tell ye.
FoolyAutomated

Francesville, IN

#161113 Apr 10, 2013
Since Bush is 14th cousin to queen Elizabeth and Both are Zionists who do not believe in independent nations , why support either ? Which President has NOT been a traitor ?

Since: Apr 07

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#161115 Apr 10, 2013
bad bob wrote:
<quoted text>
OMG! Go to yer room and don't come out until I tell ye.
I take it you don't share my opinion. Gee, that's awful, BB ;) Maybe you should treat yourself to a hot fudge sundae to soothe the pain ;)

Since: Apr 07

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#161116 Apr 10, 2013
FoolyAutomated wrote:
Since Bush is 14th cousin to queen Elizabeth and Both are Zionists who do not believe in independent nations , why support either ? Which President has NOT been a traitor ?
Until the current POTUS, none of them.

Your nick is fitting, since you clearly ARE a fool.

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#161117 Apr 10, 2013
Roberta G wrote:
<quoted text>
Until the current POTUS, none of them.
Your nick is fitting, since you clearly ARE a fool.
None of them has NOT (!) been a traitor?

Sorry, but you just agreed with the fool.
(unintentionally, I'm sure.)

:)

'Nite R.

“Help Cecil Help!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#161118 Apr 10, 2013
FoolyAutomated wrote:
Since Bush is 14th cousin to queen Elizabeth and Both are Zionists who do not believe in independent nations , why support either ? Which President has NOT been a traitor ?
The only things to do after you hear sounds like this are to wipe, flush, and wash your hands before returning to work.
Roberta G

Tucker, GA

#161119 Apr 10, 2013
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>None of them has NOT (!) been a traitor?
Sorry, but you just agreed with the fool.
(unintentionally, I'm sure.)
:)
'Nite R.
LOL. You're right. Nitey night.
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#161120 Apr 11, 2013
* "It Takes a Village." Hillary Clinton

* "We’ve always had kind of a private notion of children. Your kid is yours and totally your responsibility. So long as this retrograde conception prevails we’ll never spend enough money on children. We have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents or kids belong to their families."
Translation: Your kids AREN'T yours.

Melissa Harris-Perry professor of political science @ Tulane University speaking on MSLSD. Oops, sorry. I meant MSNBC.

* And finally, Obama wants all 4 year olds in public pre-school.
=====

This kind of thinking is right out of the Communist Manifesto. "Give us your children and we'll mold them to our way of thinking" and that is the mainstream thinking of democrats in this country today. The average American who supports the current democrat party will often deny it, say they don't agree with it. Their denial (as they cast their votes for such politicians,) is just further proof of the low information Americans which make up the majority in this country. And it's funny to me how they are the ones who often refer to themselves as the free-thinkers.
Once again, they don't have the first clue of what they're voting for.
***
This letter of resignation from a social studies teacher in NY has gone viral and further cements my point on our education system.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sh...
==
An American government who wants more and more of your money, owns the education system, owns your personal healthcare, wants your guns, systematically increases the number of dependants on the government, etc.etc.etc. because they don't think you're smart enough to handle these things on your own is an America I don't know anymore.

I'm spending my money whenever possible on foreign products and foreign travel. I want this ship to hit the rocks ASAP.... so maybe we can start over.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#161121 Apr 11, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
* "It Takes a Village." Hillary Clinton
* "We’ve always had kind of a private notion of children. Your kid is yours and totally your responsibility. So long as this retrograde conception prevails we’ll never spend enough money on children. We have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents or kids belong to their families."
Translation: Your kids AREN'T yours.
Melissa Harris-Perry professor of political science @ Tulane University speaking on MSLSD. Oops, sorry. I meant MSNBC.
* And finally, Obama wants all 4 year olds in public pre-school.
=====
This kind of thinking is right out of the Communist Manifesto. "Give us your children and we'll mold them to our way of thinking" and that is the mainstream thinking of democrats in this country today. The average American who supports the current democrat party will often deny it, say they don't agree with it. Their denial (as they cast their votes for such politicians,) is just further proof of the low information Americans which make up the majority in this country. And it's funny to me how they are the ones who often refer to themselves as the free-thinkers.
Once again, they don't have the first clue of what they're voting for.
***
This letter of resignation from a social studies teacher in NY has gone viral and further cements my point on our education system.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sh...
==
An American government who wants more and more of your money, owns the education system, owns your personal healthcare, wants your guns, systematically increases the number of dependants on the government, etc.etc.etc. because they don't think you're smart enough to handle these things on your own is an America I don't know anymore.
I'm spending my money whenever possible on foreign products and foreign travel. I want this ship to hit the rocks ASAP.... so maybe we can start over.
I picked up some t-shirts in Shanghai.

I'll give you a bargain.
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#161122 Apr 11, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I picked up some t-shirts in Shanghai.
I'll give you a bargain.
Postscript.
I neglected to say I don't buy products from or travel any longer to communist countries. My ethicial postion on that is non-negotiable, so sell your wares elsewhere.

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