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#161042 Apr 6, 2013
Things THAT OUR CORRUPTED US Media won't tell you!

Journalist and Activist Allan Nairn Reviews Obama’s First Year in Office
interviewed by Amy Goodman and Anjali Kamat

In Somalia, Bush backed Ethiopia in an invasion of Somalia, basically an Ethiopian-US invasion of Somalia. Now Obama is pumping in new arms, new weapons, into the midst of the killing and chaos there. Somalis are streaming into Yemen as refugees. The already disastrous level of hunger and starvation is increasing. His body count probably exceeds that of Bush.

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#161043 Apr 7, 2013
The reason The United States didn't sign that was because it would have given outside forces influence in our government, which, I believe, goes against the Constitution.
I believe this decision to be correct. Any international law should stop at our borders. I also believe that that C*nt hillary tried to sell us down the river when she signed the small arms agreement with the UN several years ago. She signed another one just prior to her resignation, and That one finally drew fire from the media. The government is trying to use the UN to end-run the Bill Of Rights. And wouldn't you know? That candy-ass obama is all for it.
Reports show that there are Three Hundred MILLION hand guns loose in this country. With that many weapons 'laying around', If "guncrazy" Would be a whole lot worse if gun control didn't work, don't ya think?
Don't need to take away the guns. Besides, if a body Really wanted to kill someone, there's plenty of ways to do it without a GUN. knives, clubs, rocks, hit&run, blow 'em up, and on and on.
A comedian, some time back, said that his sister took away all the violent toys from her kid. Later on he went into the child's room, and the kid was running his toys over with his toy trucks.
If you took away the guns, I doubt that murders would cease, or even drop in the current rate. More than likely, people would resort to knives. What then? Is Uncle Sam gonna take away all of our sharp objects?

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#161044 Apr 7, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>I'm glad your back, BH.
It makes sense what you're saying, but I can't help but notice that many immigrants came, were hated, lived poor and by the next generation broke out and went elsewhere, whereas many african americans remain in a viscious cycle generation after generation. I can't help but feel if the projects had not occurred, that if the great society had not occurred that full integration would have occurred and we wouldn't be having this discussion. I think with all of the "help" we are giving new immigrants we will see other groups put into that viscious cycle. Obviously it's just a theory, I can't prove it.
I would suggest that the black "immigrant" experience is unique and finds no parallel with that of any other non-WASP grouping. We're talking about centuries of pervasive systemic, institutionalized societal bias predicated on hair and facial characteristics and skin color. This bias ran (runs?) throughout society, from top to bottom, endorsed by all levels of gov't and confirmed by Supreme Court decisions. 100 years after "emancipation" they were still knocking against the same stone ceiling in different guise. Did many give up fighting? Unfortunately yes. But it wasn't because of public housing - it was because many still couldn't find a living-wage job or simple respect from an allegedly enlightened society. Is public housing an ideal fix? Heck no, but it might be instructional to recall the tenement housing available on the "free market" that was many poor person's lot prior to public housing.
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#161045 Apr 7, 2013
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
I'd like to go on record with my opinion that President Obama's remark about our Attorney General being the "...best looking Attorney General ever," was sexist. Who here believes he would have said the same about a male Attorney General?
Even if John Hamm was the Attorney General, I doubt that his looks would be mentioned by the President in a public speech...
Just saying.
I'll go on record as saying Obama's comment was sexist by today's standards and I don't care. Men notice attractive women. They have since the beginning of time, they will until the end of time, it's what they do and no amount of outrage or goofy liberal progressive "let's re-wire men's thinking" campaign is going to change that.

What I do find offensive is the Grand Poobah of feminism, gender equality and the fake war on women is apparently too stupid to have not known that letting those thoughts exit his mouth would make twitter go all a-twit and make alot of people put their hands on their hips and wag their finger at the guy. What I find offensive is the POTUS having to apologize to a woman he good naturedly complimented because a bunch of people have decided that saying a woman is good looking is now worthy of tar and feathering.
This woman simply cannot conjure up anger at a man for thinking like a man. I just can't do it. My reasoning skills keep getting in the way and there is no way I'm going to throw a nutty over something like that because the Modern American Woman Handbook tells me I'm supposed to go ballistic when a man says a woman is attractive.
No can do.
==

Would Obama have commented on a male attorney generals looks? Doubtful I guess unless he was gay or ---> Joe Biden <--- who uttered these words describing Obama back in 2007 which I thought were outrageously offensive.
"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy."

That didn't bother too many Americans I guess because they collectively voted for Biden as VP along with the "clean, nice looking" presidential candidate.

On a similar note, last week Michelle our Belle said she feels like a "busy single mom." No doubt that pleased all the struggling, busy, single mom's out there who don't have 24/7 live in help, chauffeurs, multiple vacations and no money worries.

{Maybe she didn't get a copy of the Modern American Woman handbook.}

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#161046 Apr 7, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
I'll go on record as saying Obama's comment was sexist by today's standards and I don't care. Men notice attractive women. They have since the beginning of time, they will until the end of time, it's what they do and no amount of outrage or goofy liberal progressive "let's re-wire men's thinking" campaign is going to change that.
What I do find offensive is the Grand Poobah of feminism, gender equality and the fake war on women is apparently too stupid to have not known that letting those thoughts exit his mouth would make twitter go all a-twit and make alot of people put their hands on their hips and wag their finger at the guy. What I find offensive is the POTUS having to apologize to a woman he good naturedly complimented because a bunch of people have decided that saying a woman is good looking is now worthy of tar and feathering.
This woman simply cannot conjure up anger at a man for thinking like a man. I just can't do it. My reasoning skills keep getting in the way and there is no way I'm going to throw a nutty over something like that because the Modern American Woman Handbook tells me I'm supposed to go ballistic when a man says a woman is attractive.
No can do.
==
Would Obama have commented on a male attorney generals looks? Doubtful I guess unless he was gay or ---> Joe Biden <--- who uttered these words describing Obama back in 2007 which I thought were outrageously offensive.
"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy."
That didn't bother too many Americans I guess because they collectively voted for Biden as VP along with the "clean, nice looking" presidential candidate.
On a similar note, last week Michelle our Belle said she feels like a "busy single mom." No doubt that pleased all the struggling, busy, single mom's out there who don't have 24/7 live in help, chauffeurs, multiple vacations and no money worries.
{Maybe she didn't get a copy of the Modern American Woman handbook.}
Sorry for butting in here, but who was it that said barry's looks made his legs quiver? Was that Clueless Joe, too?

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#161047 Apr 7, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
I'll go on record as saying Obama's comment was sexist by today's standards and I don't care. Men notice attractive women. They have since the beginning of time, they will until the end of time, it's what they do and no amount of outrage or goofy liberal progressive "let's re-wire men's thinking" campaign is going to change that.
What I do find offensive is the Grand Poobah of feminism, gender equality and the fake war on women is apparently too stupid to have not known that letting those thoughts exit his mouth would make twitter go all a-twit and make alot of people put their hands on their hips and wag their finger at the guy. What I find offensive is the POTUS having to apologize to a woman he good naturedly complimented because a bunch of people have decided that saying a woman is good looking is now worthy of tar and feathering.
This woman simply cannot conjure up anger at a man for thinking like a man. I just can't do it. My reasoning skills keep getting in the way and there is no way I'm going to throw a nutty over something like that because the Modern American Woman Handbook tells me I'm supposed to go ballistic when a man says a woman is attractive.
No can do.
Try not to let the fact that I pretty much agree with you here scare you.

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#161048 Apr 7, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
I'll go on record as saying Obama's comment was sexist by today's standards and I don't care. Men notice attractive women. They have since the beginning of time, they will until the end of time, it's what they do and no amount of outrage or goofy liberal progressive "let's re-wire men's thinking" campaign is going to change that.
What I do find offensive is the Grand Poobah of feminism, gender equality and the fake war on women is apparently too stupid to have not known that letting those thoughts exit his mouth would make twitter go all a-twit and make alot of people put their hands on their hips and wag their finger at the guy. What I find offensive is the POTUS having to apologize to a woman he good naturedly complimented because a bunch of people have decided that saying a woman is good looking is now worthy of tar and feathering.
This woman simply cannot conjure up anger at a man for thinking like a man. I just can't do it. My reasoning skills keep getting in the way and there is no way I'm going to throw a nutty over something like that because the Modern American Woman Handbook tells me I'm supposed to go ballistic when a man says a woman is attractive.
No can do.
==
Would Obama have commented on a male attorney generals looks? Doubtful I guess unless he was gay or ---> Joe Biden <--- who uttered these words describing Obama back in 2007 which I thought were outrageously offensive.
"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy."
That didn't bother too many Americans I guess because they collectively voted for Biden as VP along with the "clean, nice looking" presidential candidate.
On a similar note, last week Michelle our Belle said she feels like a "busy single mom." No doubt that pleased all the struggling, busy, single mom's out there who don't have 24/7 live in help, chauffeurs, multiple vacations and no money worries.
{Maybe she didn't get a copy of the Modern American Woman handbook.}
Lyndi I think he did it on purpose. As you see so much attention has been paid to it, and it takes people's minds off of what he really is doing that sucks.

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#161049 Apr 7, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>Lyndi I think he did it on purpose. As you see so much attention has been paid to it, and it takes people's minds off of what he really is doing that sucks.
I'll take "What could be crazier than making a big deal out of it" for $2000.

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#161050 Apr 7, 2013
As it happens, I agree that Joe Biden is an ass, and that men are always going to think like men...even a lot of the gay ones.

The question arose on social network sites, and I figured I'd be the first to get my pennies in on this one.(Why not?)

I also consider it highly probable that our illustrious leader did it 'on purpose' and that it apparently worked to curb folks thinking about some of his other, more important, foibles. Good points, ladies.

Well, that was my 15 minutes.

See ya'll in the funny papers...

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#161055 Apr 7, 2013
Men are always going to think like men, but men can (and should) learn not to bring up something as trivial as appearance in circumstances like Obama found himself.

The idea that he did it on purpose, though ... that's a wild one. I can see how attractive it is here to people who are ever-ready to pounce, always desperate to find fault, but have just enough intellectual integrity left (for now) to realize this ain't nothing much at all.

As my favorite Navy CPO used to say when somebody floated a bug-f'ing crazy idea, you just never know what cokamamie thing some people will salute if you run it up the flagpole ...

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Since: Nov 07

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#161056 Apr 7, 2013
Rudyard Kiplingesque wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry for butting in here, but who was it that said barry's looks made his legs quiver? Was that Clueless Joe, too?
It was Chris Matthews (MSNBC) host of "Hardball".

He also likened Obama's 2nd Inaugural speech to Lincoln's Gettysburg Address. Probably has King Obama posters plastered all over his bedroom too.

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#161057 Apr 7, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
Men are always going to think like men, but men can (and should) learn not to bring up something as trivial as appearance in circumstances like Obama found himself.
The idea that he did it on purpose, though ... that's a wild one. I can see how attractive it is here to people who are ever-ready to pounce, always desperate to find fault, but have just enough intellectual integrity left (for now) to realize this ain't nothing much at all.
As my favorite Navy CPO used to say when somebody floated a bug-f'ing crazy idea, you just never know what cokamamie thing some people will salute if you run it up the flagpole ...
Okay just tell me this. Do you really think that Joe Biden says all the stupid stuff he does by accident? Is he really that dumb?

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#161058 Apr 7, 2013
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>I would suggest that the black "immigrant" experience is unique and finds no parallel with that of any other non-WASP grouping. We're talking about centuries of pervasive systemic, institutionalized societal bias predicated on hair and facial characteristics and skin color. This bias ran (runs?) throughout society, from top to bottom, endorsed by all levels of gov't and confirmed by Supreme Court decisions. 100 years after "emancipation" they were still knocking against the same stone ceiling in different guise. Did many give up fighting? Unfortunately yes. But it wasn't because of public housing - it was because many still couldn't find a living-wage job or simple respect from an allegedly enlightened society. Is public housing an ideal fix? Heck no, but it might be instructional to recall the tenement housing available on the "free market" that was many poor person's lot prior to public housing.
I know that it is unique, but I still hold that everything that the democrats did made things worse. Remember I was a democrat at the time. Martin Luther King was a republican and I don't think he'd have approved of the way things went. Now we have vice-presidents saying things like "they wanna put you back in chains" which I think is just low and he knows it's so untrue but he wants to put as back to the beginning. That is not the way you treat people with dignity.

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#161059 Apr 7, 2013
bad bob wrote:
<quoted text>
It was Chris Matthews (MSNBC) host of "Hardball".
He also likened Obama's 2nd Inaugural speech to Lincoln's Gettysburg Address. Probably has King Obama posters plastered all over his bedroom too.
Gettysburg Address?! More like Father Guido Sarducci. Remember the "I'ma Still Here!"

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#161060 Apr 7, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>Okay just tell me this. Do you really think that Joe Biden says all the stupid stuff he does by accident? Is he really that dumb?
Biden's dumb just like President Bush was, and I don't think President Bush was dumb.

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#161061 Apr 7, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>I know that it is unique, but I still hold that everything that the democrats did made things worse. Remember I was a democrat at the time. Martin Luther King was a republican and I don't think he'd have approved of the way things went. Now we have vice-presidents saying things like "they wanna put you back in chains" which I think is just low and he knows it's so untrue but he wants to put as back to the beginning. That is not the way you treat people with dignity.
Martin Luther King was planning the Poor People's Campaign for economic justice when he was murdered in 1968.

Is that the Martin Luther King you claim wouldn't have "approved of the way things went"?

King wanted the government to do MORE of what they'd already done, lisw. His speeches and activities from 1966 through his death make that abundantly clear.

As to the idea that King was a Republican - that's a rumor that's been around for decades. IIRC his father was a Republican at a time when the term Southern Democrat telegraphed a specific mindset that pretty much said all that needed to be said on matters of race.

The most recent versions of that rumor appear to be based on a claim by King's niece with nothing to support it other than supposition based on King's assumed stance on an issue (abortion) that wasn't on the political radar until after her uncle's murder.

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#161062 Apr 7, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>Martin Luther King was planning the Poor People's Campaign for economic justice when he was murdered in 1968.
Is that the Martin Luther King you claim wouldn't have "approved of the way things went"?
King wanted the government to do MORE of what they'd already done, lisw. His speeches and activities from 1966 through his death make that abundantly clear.
As to the idea that King was a Republican - that's a rumor that's been around for decades. IIRC his father was a Republican at a time when the term Southern Democrat telegraphed a specific mindset that pretty much said all that needed to be said on matters of race.
The most recent versions of that rumor appear to be based on a claim by King's niece with nothing to support it other than supposition based on King's assumed stance on an issue (abortion) that wasn't on the political radar until after her uncle's murder.
Oh good Lord, do you think the Poor People's campaign was about project housing and welfare?

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#161063 Apr 7, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>Oh good Lord, do you think the Poor People's campaign was about project housing and welfare?
Since the focus of the Poor People's Campaign was income and housing, and since they went to and camped out in Washington requesting/demanding Congress pass another multi-billion dollar government program in addition to the ones already passed under the Great Society, I think you'd have a real hard time arguing that those weren't a part of the solution that King & Abernathy had in mind.

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Clearwater, FL

#161064 Apr 7, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>Martin Luther King was planning the Poor People's Campaign for economic justice when he was murdered in 1968.
Is that the Martin Luther King you claim wouldn't have "approved of the way things went"?
King wanted the government to do MORE of what they'd already done, lisw. His speeches and activities from 1966 through his death make that abundantly clear.
As to the idea that King was a Republican - that's a rumor that's been around for decades. IIRC his father was a Republican at a time when the term Southern Democrat telegraphed a specific mindset that pretty much said all that needed to be said on matters of race.
The most recent versions of that rumor appear to be based on a claim by King's niece with nothing to support it other than supposition based on King's assumed stance on an issue (abortion) that wasn't on the political radar until after her uncle's murder.
Not true at all. In fact Alveda King has been quite vocal that one of the reasons for her views if he had lived was his own words that said to work toward a nonviolent solution. Also the fact that he stated he hoped the day would come when a man would be judged not by his color but by his character. Quite sad what has become of his legacy in many parts of this nation are exactly what he spent his lifetime opposing.
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#161065 Apr 7, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
Men are always going to think like men, but men can (and should) learn not to bring up something as trivial as appearance in circumstances like Obama found himself.
American women spend of billions of dollars per year on beauty products, cosmetics, fashion etc. Maybe they do it so men won't notice how trivial it is to them.

I don't envy you guys.
It's almost impossible to figure out what women want.

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