Bush is a hero
UidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#160455 Mar 25, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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I know everything about my culture!!
No, i'm half rajput and jatt!!
Where r u from?
i'M FROM HERE!I'm Alien from another universe, no i'm not Indian, if you gonna ask. So, do you forget all you trouble. Tell me you not you Un touchable? Do you parents allow you to marry to outsiders? mwbAHAHAHAHAHAHA
UidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#160456 Mar 25, 2013
zeccec wrote:
youtube.com/watch?v=7KM4NKrGjy E ……
Bush is to old now no worry
Still the International War crime Tribunal want him for Atrocious War crimes against humanity!

“2016 No Clinton No Bush!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#160457 Mar 25, 2013
bad bob wrote:
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OH REALLY! A complete & utter failure from the very start? If you read it accurately, the comparison was based on the possibility that Hussein could feel emboldened by a success in Kuwait to then try Saudi Arabia. IIRC, the Kingdom expressed those very concerns to Bush the elder. I stated that it was because of GHW Bush that Hussein did NOT become Hitler II.
Chaser has since answered that the USA acted correctly to help stop Hitler, but was willing to hold short on Hussein, even though it was unclear what Hussein might do AFTER Kuwait.
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FTR noted: however by, "whenever <they> locked radar" meaning Iraqi radar installations, this constituted a possible threat and was dealt with accordingly. SOP.
I think you need to clarify whether you're talking about 1990 or 2003.

If you want to invoke Hitler in arguing for the Gulf War, you've got a point.

If you are trying to boot strap the 2003 invasion onto that, IMO your attempt is a complete and utter failure. You can't compare Iraq 2003 with Germany in 1939, or 1938 (Austria/Munich), or 1936 (reoccupation of the Rhineland), or 1935 (Hitler renounced the Treaty of Versailles).

The facts didn't support that kind of comparison in 2003, bob, and I say that even though I supported the idea of going to war over the WMD I thought Saddam had.

Since: Oct 12

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#160458 Mar 25, 2013
UidiotRaceMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text> i'M FROM HERE!I'm Alien from another universe, no i'm not Indian, if you gonna ask. So, do you forget all you trouble. Tell me you not you Un touchable? Do you parents allow you to marry to outsiders? mwbAHAHAHAHAHAHA
lol! aren't we all!!

I'm not an untouchable/churi, i'm from 'high' castes/class. The rajputs are warriors and jatts are landlords!!

I wouldn't marry outside my castes, but i can marry a white guy, hindu or sikh from my own castes!! I might go 1 or 2 'lower', but i don't think it's gonna happen!! Defo NO muslims!!

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#160459 Mar 25, 2013
bad bob wrote:
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Hmmmm, well THAT'S odd. Obama has chosen (wisely) to carry on virtually the same foreign policy as GWBush, and even ramping up drone attacks. Yet somehow our "global image" is no longer being "tarnished"? Wow, now that's FAN-tastic.
Well, our image could be better.

And I agree with you, what's holding us back is Obama doing the same as Bush. The drone attacks are, in my view, unjustifiable.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#160460 Mar 25, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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I know everything about my culture!!
No, i'm half rajput and jatt!!
Where r u from?
Who, me?

BWAHAHAHAHAaHahahahaHA
UidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#160463 Mar 25, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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lol! aren't we all!!
I'm not an untouchable/churi, i'm from 'high' castes/class. The rajputs are warriors and jatts are landlords!!
I wouldn't marry outside my castes, but i can marry a white guy, hindu or sikh from my own castes!! I might go 1 or 2 'lower', but i don't think it's gonna happen!! Defo NO muslims!!
I don't care about the caste system , it's the heart of a Person that matter most to some. Yes? No? Maybe? I don't prefer Warriors.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#160465 Mar 25, 2013
UidiotRaceMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>I don't care about the caste system , it's the heart of a Person that matter most to some. Yes? No? Maybe? I don't prefer Warriors.
It makes a difference to me. I can't connect with people in different castes. I can connect with some castes but not others. Our culture, thinking etc.. is soo different!! They don't want to live by our rules and we certainly are not gonna live by their rules. The majority of each caste or even class has their own mentality. It is very hard to adjust, especially for a girl coz she has to leave her culture!!

If i met a person that i can connect with, i defo would, but i really doubt i ever will. I'm educated, my family are high caste, the untouchables work in our houses, they clean our houses and look after our gardens. We respect them a lot, but to live in their society?? I don't think i can do it! And i am not gonna force myself!!!!

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#160466 Mar 25, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>I think you need to clarify whether you're talking about 1990 or 2003.
If you want to invoke Hitler in arguing for the Gulf War, you've got a point.
If you are trying to boot strap the 2003 invasion onto that, IMO your attempt is a complete and utter failure. You can't compare Iraq 2003 with Germany in 1939, or 1938 (Austria/Munich), or 1936 (reoccupation of the Rhineland), or 1935 (Hitler renounced the Treaty of Versailles).
The facts didn't support that kind of comparison in 2003, bob, and I say that even though I supported the idea of going to war over the WMD I thought Saddam had.
Yes, GHW Bush, Invasion of Kuwait, etc., had to do with Hitler.

The 03 material was continuation in response to Chaser's allegation that we should not "mess" in other countries' affairs. He named Iraq, and I covered BOTH campaigns, but looking back, I should have put the question about Hitler closer to the 1st Gulf War, rather than at the end. My mistake.

But it was very clear to me at the time, what referrence I was making.
UidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#160467 Mar 25, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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It makes a difference to me. I can't connect with people in different castes. I can connect with some castes but not others. Our culture, thinking etc.. is soo different!! They don't want to live by our rules and we certainly are not gonna live by their rules. The majority of each caste or even class has their own mentality. It is very hard to adjust, especially for a girl coz she has to leave her culture!!
If i met a person that i can connect with, i defo would, but i really doubt i ever will. I'm educated, my family are high caste, the untouchables work in our houses, they clean our houses and look after our gardens. We respect them a lot, but to live in their society?? I don't think i can do it! And i am not gonna force myself!!!!
did you know majority of Younger generations of the elite caste had been brainwashed to believe they above everyone. Are you afraid the Constitution will severe that tide , you Caste System?

And, have you been Spoiled? How are you gonna function when those Slaves or Servants... revolt ?
Correct , some Sikh are Second class Citizens to Other Sikh?
So you belief in 'MAnu" religious indoctrination , that class has a purpose and should be separate .

Even you A female are second class citizen to you clan?
UidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#160468 Mar 25, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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It makes a difference to me. I can't connect with people in different castes. I can connect with some castes but not others. Our culture, thinking etc.. is soo different!! They don't want to live by our rules and we certainly are not gonna live by their rules. The majority of each caste or even class has their own mentality. It is very hard to adjust, especially for a girl coz she has to leave her culture!!
If i met a person that i can connect with, i defo would, but i really doubt i ever will. I'm educated, my family are high caste, the untouchables work in our houses, they clean our houses and look after our gardens. We respect them a lot, but to live in their society?? I don't think i can do it! And i am not gonna force myself!!!!
ADD! you meant u can't do it because of all riches and comfort is in front you and If you left the u're family and your clan, they will disown you and lose of your stutus... As to marriage ceremony, you require your bride a upfront as dowry, to come up with Gold necklace worh over $200,000 plus , then you marry the poor guy... I feel for Catcher, he sure have long way to win you heart, am i right.

BWHAHAHHAHAAHHAAA
UidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#160469 Mar 25, 2013
bad bob wrote:
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Yes, GHW Bush, Invasion of Kuwait, etc., had to do with Hitler.
The 03 material was continuation in response to Chaser's allegation that we should not "mess" in other countries' affairs. He named Iraq, and I covered BOTH campaigns, but looking back, I should have put the question about Hitler closer to the 1st Gulf War, rather than at the end. My mistake.
But it was very clear to me at the time, what referrence I was making.
Interjecting here , Weird wild willie post.

Then why 179 nations no longer afraid to give our militaristic imperialist US the big Fat middle Fingersfor our interventionist warring Sanction on poor little Cuba? And over over 139 nations Support Palestine to be a State and given US /israel the Big MIDDlE FINGERS?

BWHAHAHAHHAHAHAAA

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#160470 Mar 25, 2013
UidiotRaceMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>did you know majority of Younger generations of the elite caste had been brainwashed to believe they above everyone. Are you afraid the Constitution will severe that tide , you Caste System?
And, have you been Spoiled? How are you gonna function when those Slaves or Servants... revolt ?
Correct , some Sikh are Second class Citizens to Other Sikh?
So you belief in 'MAnu" religious indoctrination , that class has a purpose and should be separate .
Even you A female are second class citizen to you clan?
No, I'm not brainwashed, I know my sanskriti very well, but people are very naive who think races, castes and classes don't exist!! And that there is no differences between us. In our castes there are clear and obvious physical AND mental differences. Just like there are differences between men and women, we r NOT the same!!

I'm not spoilt, i don't come from the spoilt caste!

It would be good if everyone could give up their classes etc.. but it isn't gonna happen. White people might stop being racist to black people, but black people r just as bad, they gotta stop too!!

No, i am not a second class citizen to my clan. Our women having been fighting and working alongside our men for generations!!

Caste has got nothing to do with religion. Castes exist, but 1 caste is not higher than another, we are all experts at out own field. someone is good at fighting and someone is good at thinking!! But we all got to work together and help each other.

We r allowed to have our separate cultures. I'll give u an example. I don't eat meat, i believe killing an animal is wrong, how can i then marry a muslim man? He is gonna kill goats and lambs at all the Eids, he's gonna eat cow everyday. I will NOT give up my identity and mix with him!! I will not wear a burqa and accept Islam!!

KEEPING MY OWN CASTE IS ABOUT KEEPING MY OWN IDENTITY AND MY OWN WAY OF LIFE. IT'S FREEDOM FOR ME!!!

I'm not forcing anyone to live my way and i don't have to live your way!!

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#160471 Mar 25, 2013
UidiotRaceMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>ADD! you meant u can't do it because of all riches and comfort is in front you and If you left the u're family and your clan, they will disown you and lose of your stutus... As to marriage ceremony, you require your bride a upfront as dowry, to come up with Gold necklace worh over $200,000 plus , then you marry the poor guy... I feel for Catcher, he sure have long way to win you heart, am i right.
BWHAHAHHAHAAHHAAA
No!! I will marry a poor guy, if he is from my own caste. It's got nothing to do with money!!! It's about thinking, belief and identity!!

U have bad thinking that all higher caste/class or white people are racist and that Blacks and lower castes/classes can't be racist! They are f8ckin' just as racist!! u r not welcome into a low caste temple if u not one of them!! One of the lower caste groups is so racist it wants the poetry of their caste saint to be removed from our religious book and they only want to worship him but not the other saints belonging to other castes!!

We don't do any dowry sh*t!!

U really don't have enough knowledge to discuss the caste system. U won't until u experience it!!

I spent all my time studying and studying, so why the hell do u think i won't marry a doctor or a lawyer? Of course, I should marry a man at my level!! All this is natural thinking, we do it every day in the west and nobody says anything about class and caste then!!

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#160472 Mar 25, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Well, our image could be better.
And I agree with you, what's holding us back is Obama doing the same as Bush. The drone attacks are, in my view, unjustifiable.
You're looking for a perfect world and it isn't gonna happen. EVER!

There are simply too many bad actors. Some who choose to pillage, plunder, and kill now, and some who are willing to wait until noble super powers such as the US turn dovish, allowing those forces of evil to amass, gain power, and take over a timid country just like the Taliban did in Afghanistan.

al Qaeda would love to slice your head off, or mine or anyone associated with western interests. You're a world traveller. Next time yer in the area, go to Pakistan, or Yemen or the Sudan, or Chechnya, or North Africa and visit a terrorist stronghold. Using your best diplomacy of course, just tell them you're there to try and work things out peacefully, instead of them always resorting to extreme violence.

We have no beef with the Middle East population. But damn man, they have a right to a peaceful existance, free of ruthless thugs like Hussein, Assad, and Kadaffi, don't they? THAT'S mainly why we do what we do!

You think gasoline is high now in the US? Do nothing and allow some of the dark forces and pirates to control major oil fields and shipping lanes. After that, we'd give ANYthing to see gas at $4 gal.
UidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#160473 Mar 25, 2013
Clementia wrote:
<quoted text>
No, I'm not brainwashed, I know my sanskriti very well, but people are very naive who think races, castes and classes don't exist!! And that there is no differences between us. In our castes there are clear and obvious physical AND mental differences. Just like there are differences between men and women, we r NOT the same!!
I'm not spoilt, i don't come from the spoilt caste!
It would be good if everyone could give up their classes etc.. but it isn't gonna happen. White people might stop being racist to black people, but black people r just as bad, they gotta stop too!!
No, i am not a second class citizen to my clan. Our women having been fighting and working alongside our men for generations!!
Caste has got nothing to do with religion. Castes exist, but 1 caste is not higher than another, we are all experts at out own field. someone is good at fighting and someone is good at thinking!! But we all got to work together and help each other.
We r allowed to have our separate cultures. I'll give u an example. I don't eat meat, i believe killing an animal is wrong, how can i then marry a muslim man? He is gonna kill goats and lambs at all the Eids, he's gonna eat cow everyday. I will NOT give up my identity and mix with him!! I will not wear a burqa and accept Islam!!
KEEPING MY OWN CASTE IS ABOUT KEEPING MY OWN IDENTITY AND MY OWN WAY OF LIFE. IT'S FREEDOM FOR ME!!!
I'm not forcing anyone to live my way and i don't have to live your way!!
Before you said you have no problem marrying White, but White kill and eat goats, cows... and even white warrior class kill humans? I think you confuse and not using logical nor critical thinking skills...?
maybe not brainwashing but you don't see the indoctrination, separate you from others of differences in Speech, Cultures, religions... as long they don't harm person buy use of violences, and use wars... against others.; i have no problem getting together whether its race, creed, sex... I do think You falling into that paridgmn of hate...
but the "Manu" religious text separate people according to caste System...
UidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#160474 Mar 25, 2013
Clementia wrote:
<quoted text>
No!! I will marry a poor guy, if he is from my own caste. It's got nothing to do with money!!! It's about thinking, belief and identity!!
U have bad thinking that all higher caste/class or white people are racist and that Blacks and lower castes/classes can't be racist! They are f8ckin' just as racist!! u r not welcome into a low caste temple if u not one of them!! One of the lower caste groups is so racist it wants the poetry of their caste saint to be removed from our religious book and they only want to worship him but not the other saints belonging to other castes!!
We don't do any dowry sh*t!!
U really don't have enough knowledge to discuss the caste system. U won't until u experience it!!
I spent all my time studying and studying, so why the hell do u think i won't marry a doctor or a lawyer? Of course, I should marry a man at my level!! All this is natural thinking, we do it every day in the west and nobody says anything about class and caste then!!
On the contrary, i have no problem with white or Black or yellow... as longer they are not war mongers, or racists ...

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#160475 Mar 25, 2013
bad bob wrote:
<quoted text>
You're looking for a perfect world and it isn't gonna happen. EVER!
There are simply too many bad actors. Some who choose to pillage, plunder, and kill now, and some who are willing to wait until noble super powers such as the US turn dovish, allowing those forces of evil to amass, gain power, and take over a timid country just like the Taliban did in Afghanistan.
al Qaeda would love to slice your head off, or mine or anyone associated with western interests. You're a world traveller. Next time yer in the area, go to Pakistan, or Yemen or the Sudan, or Chechnya, or North Africa and visit a terrorist stronghold. Using your best diplomacy of course, just tell them you're there to try and work things out peacefully, instead of them always resorting to extreme violence.
We have no beef with the Middle East population. But damn man, they have a right to a peaceful existance, free of ruthless thugs like Hussein, Assad, and Kadaffi, don't they? THAT'S mainly why we do what we do!
You think gasoline is high now in the US? Do nothing and allow some of the dark forces and pirates to control major oil fields and shipping lanes. After that, we'd give ANYthing to see gas at $4 gal.
I'm gonna say it! I kinda agree with u!!

"We have no beef with the Middle East population."

U should do or u will do, coz they got taliban mentality too, majority of them are no different. If u'r not a muslim, then u r a second class citizen. u will burn in one of the 7 hells or something!!

But i don't believe the America government is kind. it's only out for itself!! I don't actually blame it either!

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#160476 Mar 25, 2013
UidiotRaceMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>Before you said you have no problem marrying White, but White kill and eat goats, cows... and even white warrior class kill humans? I think you confuse and not using logical nor critical thinking skills...?
maybe not brainwashing but you don't see the indoctrination, separate you from others of differences in Speech, Cultures, religions... as long they don't harm person buy use of violences, and use wars... against others.; i have no problem getting together whether its race, creed, sex... I do think You falling into that paridgmn of hate...
but the "Manu" religious text separate people according to caste System...
A white educated, vegetarian guy. I wouldn't go outside my society!

U DON'T GET IT!! I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH ANY RACE, RELIGION ETC... DO WHAT U WANT!! BUT RACIST WHITE PEOPLE DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ME, BUT U WANT ME TO MARRY THEM?

The other castes hate each other, if i get married to another caste guy, i'm not gonna get treated with respect. Have u never heard that women in India burn their daughter-in-laws? And u want to push me into those castes??

The world is a horrible place!!!

I'm a sikh but i have no problem with any other religion, as long as they don't effect me. Neither do most atheists, so it's much easier for me to marry a white atheist, coz we have similar beliefs. How the hell can i marry a man who think i'm going to hell??

U also follow what i'm sayin', think about it!!

If u met a girl like bad bob, would u marry her? u won't even want to associate with her and she wouldn't want to with u!!
UidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#160477 Mar 25, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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I'm gonna say it! I kinda agree with u!!
"We have no beef with the Middle East population."
U should do or u will do, coz they got taliban mentality too, majority of them are no different. If u'r not a muslim, then u r a second class citizen. u will burn in one of the 7 hells or something!!
But i don't believe the America government is kind. it's only out for itself!! I don't actually blame it either!
LOL! Did u know US and UNOCAl (Oil/gas corp ) had a number of Business Relationships with the Tabilan in the 50s'. As those tabilan disagreed with our US terms and been forced to give up the land The Afhan Oil/pipeline routes...., so the Negotiation gone south; so US decided to US military force in acquisition of strategic lands, better read more Clementia, who the real provocateurs are. So?

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