Bush is a hero
uidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#158712 Feb 1, 2013
Pernrider wrote:
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I didn't pretend. I told you what I wouldn't do. What I was saying is that I wouldn't be outraged by someone saying that a Jew didn't have a right to say what was American or something to that effect and I wouldn't feign outrage either. Because I am sure there are plenty who would say that. They would be wrong. I don't think it is because they are ignorant but because they come at things from wildly different viewpoint than mine.
I happen to believe that America was founded on a Judeo Christian worldview. I understand that there are those who disagree. I happen to think they are wrong as I know they do me. It is what it is.
Interjecting here!

but it had changed in America as moderates had been struck and know now you been kowtowing to radical RIGHT WING jUDEO-cHRISTAIN VIEWS And principals as this bunch Christain coalition are right Wing war mongers are intolerant and war with it own kind and war with other religions ! yOU NEED TO GET OF THE BANDWAGoN soon, you brainwashed peon!
uidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#158714 Feb 1, 2013
Roberta G wrote:
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That's a pretty fair summing-up too. Here's an example in which I have been personally involved:
Back in May or June in this area, two young men, whom I'll identify only by their initials, were videotaped TORTURING a PUPPY. These two sadists WIRED THE PUPPY'S MOUTH SHUT so she couldn't scream, stabbed her repeatedly with a knife, tormented her in other ways and finally killed her. They were arrested and charged with animal cruelty and found guilty.
All of this had already by the time I first heard of this case, by sheer chance. My dad, suffering from shingles in October and November, asked me to go with him while he filled up at a local gas station. While we were there, a woman slipped me a handbill through the passenger's window which outlined the history of this case and the woman told me that P. O. and E. L. were to be sentenced in a few days. After thinking it over, I decided to attend that hearing in November, at which time since both were still under 18, they were sentenced to two years' probation. The presiding circuit court judge noted that this case had generated a lot of local interest (very true, there was a TV camera recording the sentencing), and told these two bastards the terms of their probations would include certain conditions such as their not being permitted any use of firearms, etc.
A few weeks later, when I went to the courthouse to renew my car tags, some ladies there told me that that one of them, P.O., had been arrested again, this time charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor. I wasn't surprised. It seems this young thug had been encouraging two boys to shoot deer from a moving car while he was driving.
A lady from a group now on Facebook has been keeping me informed of the dates of the hearings, etc., regarding this case. Yesterday I attended P. O.'s sentencing for violating his probation and the new case. Since he is now over 18, he got six months behind bars. He could have got up to two years and I wish he had, although I'm glad he did get some hard time. Also, he is now legally a convicted felon :)
I was one of at least 15 people watching this in the courtroom, and heard the judge (the same one) note that he was particularly disturbed that again animals were involved. A TV camera was recording the event this time also.
What kind of "humanity" is this? THAT'S why I was there and I plan to continue to follow this case, and E. L.'s as well. Both seem to be well started on glorious careers.
I'm sorry I went on so long, but I really needed to get that off my chest. The thought of what they did to that innocent puppy makes me want to retch. This is the same kind of love of cruelty, of bullying, that resulted in the Holocaust in Germany. This was on a much smaller scale, but at bottom it's the same thing.
Let talk about ' American Holocaust ' as you want to whitewashed from history, US worst than what you talking about , our evil war mongering US military centuries of war and Genocidal and the eugenic wars on the many NAtive indians of N.American - over 100 million killed/murdered by US Military and stolen land from under them... this just one many US wars over the few centuries, just one example and just tip of Ice berg of your warring ancestor malicious wars on the world humanity. So?

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#158715 Feb 1, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
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3 million more women are now living in poverty than when Obama took office. 1 in 6 Americans are now in poverty. 800,000 women in this counttry are out of work. 43+ million PEOPLE are now on food stamps.
Either explain it as though you got past the 8th grade or simply own it. Those stats are fact and your guy is at the helm.
Lyndi: The economy is rebounding, the housing market is improving, the jobs picture is better, the stock market is reaching record highs. The stats are fact and "my guy," as you call him, is at the helm.

I know you don't like this, but you should. Don't be such a misanthrope. It's unbecoming of you.

“2016 No Clinton No Bush!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#158717 Feb 1, 2013
Pernrider wrote:
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I didn't pretend. I told you what I wouldn't do. What I was saying is that I wouldn't be outraged by someone saying that a Jew didn't have a right to say what was American or something to that effect and I wouldn't feign outrage either. Because I am sure there are plenty who would say that. They would be wrong. I don't think it is because they are ignorant but because they come at things from wildly different viewpoint than mine.
I happen to believe that America was founded on a Judeo Christian worldview. I understand that there are those who disagree. I happen to think they are wrong as I know they do me. It is what it is.
You're the one who keeps throwing the word outraged out there; I never said I was outraged. It's not even close to the word I'd use. That's been your term all along.

I'm having a hard time regarding myself as intolerant for considering the intolerant as ignorant, to put it simply. If I'd said those ideas shouldn't even be expressed, I might be able to see your point.

This whole "wildly different world views" doesn't wash with me, Pern. Some world views are ignorant. Some world views simply aren't worthy of equal consideration with others.
uidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#158718 Feb 1, 2013
Pernrider wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't pretend. I told you what I wouldn't do. What I was saying is that I wouldn't be outraged by someone saying that a Jew didn't have a right to say what was American or something to that effect and I wouldn't feign outrage either. Because I am sure there are plenty who would say that. They would be wrong. I don't think it is because they are ignorant but because they come at things from wildly different viewpoint than mine.
I happen to believe that America was founded on a Judeo Christian worldview. I understand that there are those who disagree. I happen to think they are wrong as I know they do me. It is what it is.
This is our US judeo-Christain nation and what it represents and the immorality of the many war at home and worldwide...
See that other piece about moderates and radical christainity

Let talk about ' American Holocaust ' as you want to whitewashed from history, US worst than what you talking about , our evil war mongering US military centuries of war and Genocidal and the eugenic wars on the many NAtive indians of N.American - over 100 million killed/murdered by US Military and stolen land from under them... this just one many US wars over the few centuries, just one example and just tip of Ice berg of your warring ancestor malicious wars on the world humanity. So?
uidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#158720 Feb 1, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Lyndi: The economy is rebounding, the housing market is improving, the jobs picture is better, the stock market is reaching record highs. The stats are fact and "my guy," as you call him, is at the helm.
I know you don't like this, but you should. Don't be such a misanthrope. It's unbecoming of you.
Sorry , i'm not overly Optimistic!
uidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#158721 Feb 1, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>Those are just wildly different world views, aren't they?
Good of you in trying to get these zombies to use what lobe lof brain they still have function, who knows how rotten it is?

KUDOS to you, still made at me? MQWbHAAHHAHAHAAA have a hiney melon, you earn it:)

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#158722 Feb 1, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>That was as of 10:45 p.m. on election night, bob.
CNN reports it as Obama 65,455,010 votes (51%) to Romney 60,771,703 votes
(47%) last updated in December, Wikipedia is about the same.
OK thanks.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#158723 Feb 1, 2013
uidiotRaceMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text> Sorry , i'm not overly Optimistic!
Agreed.

It's a tough row to hoe.

But we shouldn't be always gloom and doom.

Anybody who ever participated seriously in sports would understand.

Your attitude is very powerful.

Positive energy works.
uidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#158724 Feb 1, 2013
bad bob wrote:
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OK thanks.
i see an Apology coming for catcher from you! BHAHHAHAHAHHAHAA

“On a sailing ship to nowhere”

Since: Jun 07

Colorado

#158726 Feb 1, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>Those are just wildly different world views, aren't they?
They are.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#158727 Feb 1, 2013
Pernrider wrote:
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They are.
I am sorry that I cannot respond to your post.

I will be out of the office for the rest of the evening.

If you need immediate assistance, please dial 0 and leave your message at the tone.

“On a sailing ship to nowhere”

Since: Jun 07

Colorado

#158728 Feb 1, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, I read the article.
I read the article when it was first published, and I read it again.
It's nonsense to suggest that by taking the oath of office on something other than the Bible, American civilization is 'undermined'.
It's ludicrous to assert that Ellison's swearing in on the Koran will 'embolden Muslim extremists'.
To assert that Ellison's swearing in on the Koran 'will be doing more damage to the unity of America and to the value system that has formed this country than the terrorists of 9-11' is absurd.
The follow up claim, that Ellison is the one that made this an issue, is disingenuous because there is no reason to object to Ellison's announcement that he was swearing in on the Koran. Prager can't blame Ellison for his ignorant outburst.
Your words of description: Nonsense, ludicrous, absurd, disengenuous,"there is no reason to object", ignorant outburst.

Those words do not show tolerance of other's viewpoints they show judgment.

“On a sailing ship to nowhere”

Since: Jun 07

Colorado

#158729 Feb 1, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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I think Prager is a scumbag.
This has nothing to do with parties or politics.
Please.
speaking of intolerance and a judgmental attitude

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#158730 Feb 1, 2013
Pernrider wrote:
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Your words of description: Nonsense, ludicrous, absurd, disengenuous,"there is no reason to object", ignorant outburst.
Those words do not show tolerance of other's viewpoints they show judgment.
I am sorry that I cannot respond to your post.

I will be out of the office for the rest of the evening.

If you need immediate assistance, please leave a message at the prompt.

“On a sailing ship to nowhere”

Since: Jun 07

Colorado

#158731 Feb 1, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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I am sorry that I cannot respond to your post.
I will be out of the office for the rest of the evening.
If you need immediate assistance, please dial 0 and leave your message at the tone.
Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#158732 Feb 1, 2013
Pernrider wrote:
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speaking of intolerance and a judgmental attitude
Tolerance only goes so far.

I'll bet there are some things you won't tolerate.

This is true for everybody.
lisw

Sardinia, OH

#158733 Feb 1, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Lyndi: The economy is rebounding, the housing market is improving, the jobs picture is better, the stock market is reaching record highs. The stats are fact and "my guy," as you call him, is at the helm.
I know you don't like this, but you should. Don't be such a misanthrope. It's unbecoming of you.
What you don't seem to realize is "who" the economy is rebounding for. It's not the middle class, Catcher. Jobs are not available in that middle range and when they are the perks are quite a bit less, no health insurance, lots of contract positions with no vacation or sick pay or 401K's. Businesses can't handle those anymore. For lower paying jobs like in the food service industry, hours are being cut because businesses can't afford the guidelines. You have to know the stockmarket though an indication of some rebound only benefits those who are already doing okay and have a little extra to stick in their 401K. As for housing, I think it has normalized some but it is still those who tend to be able to buy anyway that are buying smaller houses. IMO this is good. The housing boom was false. So check with someone else besides your law partners to see where the economy "feels" like it is going. Because that is the real indicator. Obama can report what he wishes but it is the people that tells the story.

“On a sailing ship to nowhere”

Since: Jun 07

Colorado

#158734 Feb 1, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>You're the one who keeps throwing the word outraged out there; I never said I was outraged. It's not even close to the word I'd use. That's been your term all along.
I'm having a hard time regarding myself as intolerant for considering the intolerant as ignorant, to put it simply. If I'd said those ideas shouldn't even be expressed, I might be able to see your point.
This whole "wildly different world views" doesn't wash with me, Pern. Some world views are ignorant. Some world views simply aren't worthy of equal consideration with others.
How many times have I used that term in this conversation? If you are going to accuse me of throwing it around I'd like some proof.

What gives you the right to judge worldviews? Is there absolute truth?
uidiotRaceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#158735 Feb 1, 2013
Pernrider wrote:
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His male female hour is probably the one I disagree with most often and I do have to say that three marriages says a lot as to why. I do like to hear what he has to say from a male perspective because he is pretty forthright and I can't quite fathom the male brain. You guys are complex in your simplicity! JK. I wonder what the Californian thinks of the book "Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus"? That guy's been married a bunch of times too.
I like Prager's desire for clarity over agreement. Wish that could be said for some here. Ah, the haters they be a hatin' they don't even understand themselves enough to know why.
Murder vs. killing, who doesn't get that difference?
This post of yours to Chris(t)(Un)Clearwater!

Kate Richards O"Hare, 1915
" The women of the United States are nothing but brood sows, having sons to be put into the army and made into fertilizer.

Are you piss off with me yet? BWHHAHHAAHAAaaa

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