Bush is a hero

Since: Apr 07

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#158523 Jan 30, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Looking at your post reminds me to remember how thankful I am to the majority of Americans for re-electing our president.
Yes, there's a culture war in place.
Thankfully, those with hearts are leading the ones with ice flowing through their veins.
Don't underestimate my good friend badbob. He DEFINITELY has a heart, and it's actually a pretty big one :) But he is also the sworn enemy of hypocrisy and cant, no matter where--or whom--they might be from. Beneath that clown get-up he wears is that big heart, a keen mind--and a Whack-a-mole Extraordinaire, used on appropriate noggins ;)
Chris Clearwater

Clearwater, FL

#158524 Jan 31, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Looking at your post reminds me to remember how thankful I am to the majority of Americans for re-electing our president.
Yes, there's a culture war in place.
Thankfully, those with hearts are leading the ones with ice flowing through their veins.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

“2016 No Clinton No Bush!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#158525 Jan 31, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>I'm going to risk telling a little story. I think I was a good clinician but certainly not one tobe written up in the manuals, so my assumption is that most people acted like me. I had a lady with schizophrenia transferred to me from another county where she was on mandatory shots of haldol. They gave her a bad case of tardive dyskenesia. The doctor where I worked wanted to try her on a milder medication and trust her to take it. The lady was motivated to be well, but something told me to keep a close check on her. I saw her in her home so that was easy to do. Sure enough she became very symptomatic and I was able to get her to return to the doctor that gave the shots. We had to be sort of unafraid and willing to take a risk. I just have to support the mental health system we have to some extent. It's not a bad one. Clients know we care and that we're not scared.
If you're taking what I've been saying as criticism of your profession, I'm sorry I gave you that impression.

I know we've done remarkable things for people who used to be institutionalized, and we've improved the quality of most psychiatric hospitals, and I don't want to go back to the bad old days.
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#158526 Jan 31, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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In their circumstances, most of us would have done the same.
It's inhuman to break up mothers and their children.
It's inhuman to force young men and women to leave the only country they have ever known, and have to go to a place totally foreign to them.
That's how I see it anyway.
No one who is seriously debating this issue in DC wants to break up mothers from their children......you're spreading false information.
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#158527 Jan 31, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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OK, strike the word inhumane.
Substitute, "uncompassionate."
What I mean is that, if you have a heart, you will empathize.
You won't place the scarlet letter on these people.
<sniffle sniffle>
Would you like to borrow my hankie?
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#158528 Jan 31, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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I agree with you 100 percent that border security must be part and parcel of any bill to reform immigration. I don't want to open the floodwaters. I just want to be fair and decent and kind to people who are already here, by what I would call accident of their existence. Fate, life, whatever you call it, has left them in this situation.
Their parents weren't war torn refugees fleeing battle zones, Catcher. Their parents learned the meaning of "anchor babies", heard that the streets here are paved with entitlements, made a conscious decision to skip lawful entry and you want to welcome them with a marching band and get all teary.

You're worse than Boehner.

Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#158529 Jan 31, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Looking at your post reminds me to remember how thankful I am to the majority of Americans for re-electing our president.
Yes, there's a culture war in place.
Thankfully, those with hearts are leading the ones with ice flowing through their veins.
Yup. Word on high is the economy just tanked further and his ratings went up.

That's one for the psychiatric community to ponder.
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#158530 Jan 31, 2013
bad bob wrote:
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Well then do you want open borders with Canada & Mexico where ANYone can come and go??
Only if they vote democrat. If they were prone to voting republican, Obama would be building something comparable to the Great Wall of China.

“The future begins”

Since: Jul 07

every moment

#158532 Jan 31, 2013
Pernrider wrote:
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You're assumption would probably be correct. I just kinda stepped back into the thread without having to hash over past posts.
By the way, one of the reasons I decided to play in this muddy pond again after such a long break was because of the story of Manti Te'o's online gf with a story that reminded me so much of WIP. It just seemed so weird that both were online deaths due to cancer and related to Hawaii. I never could quite accept WIP's online tragedy but at the same time if it were true it was really sad. You know me, always the cynic.
Yes, I thought the same when I was first aware of her impending (alleged) demise. I earned my skeptic badge way back. My radar was up from there, and ultimately tipped me in her favor - I never once saw her use it in any way in discussion - for debate points, for sympathy, for anything. If it was fake, I reasoned, to what purpose if she didn't use it? She also sent me a couple private messages that rang the same bell. Yes, Lord knows I do need to see the wounds, as it were, so I wouldn't bet my house on it, but in total, it did appear real enough.

As for the QB kid, I don't have an opinion except, as the prophet Morrison said, people are strange. It seems so silly I've not looked at it beyond the headlines.

I hadn't been here since November. Just jumped back in a couple days ago 'cos it's so nasty outside and TV sucks, mostly. Glad I got to "see" ya. You'ns take care. Peace. rk

“The future begins”

Since: Jul 07

every moment

#158533 Jan 31, 2013
Pernrider wrote:
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Wait a minute. Are YOU accusing ME of failing to be concise?
Uh, no, not at all. I presumed "unwordy" was supposed to imply, "doesn't use a lot of words". You know as well as I how to use up the character limit;)

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#158534 Jan 31, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
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No one who is seriously debating this issue in DC wants to break up mothers from their children......you're spreading false information.
It has already been happening.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#158535 Jan 31, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
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Yup. Word on high is the economy just tanked further and his ratings went up.
That's one for the psychiatric community to ponder.
Not at all.

It just shows that YOU don't get it.

All you care about is the economy, and blaming Obama.

You really should take the blinders off, you might see what the majority of Americans see.
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#158536 Jan 31, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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It has already been happening.
Don't split hairs. If people are deported {too bad, so sad} their family can follow. No one is keeping them here against their will.

There are repercussions and consequences for risky, illegal, premediated and ill-advised behaviors. I thought you would have learned that in law school.
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#158537 Jan 31, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Not at all.
It just shows that YOU don't get it.
All you care about is the economy, and blaming Obama.
You really should take the blinders off, you might see what the majority of Americans see.
Jay Carney is blaming the republicans for the recent "dip" in the economy.
<pause>

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Haaaaaaaaa
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Wloclawek Warrior

Petersburg, VA

#158538 Jan 31, 2013
Bush is a hero sub, one made at the deli with rotten meat and as the maker did not use gloves, picked his butt and there is your hero.
rider

Gwinn, MI

#158540 Jan 31, 2013
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Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#158541 Jan 31, 2013
"It appears no one in the unions...the biggest pillar of support for the Obama administration has throughly read The Affordable Care Act: America's labor unions, whose liberal vote every election is instrumental to preserving the outflow side of America's welfare state. As it turns out, it was the same labor unions who enthusiastically supported the primary accomplishment of the Obama administration in the past 4 years, Obamacare, only to realize, long after it has become reality that, surprise, their healthcare plan costs are about to go up. And, as the Wall Street Journal colorfully summarizes, they are now "turning sour."

From WSJ:

Union leaders say many of the law's requirements will drive up the costs for their health-care plans and make unionized workers less competitive. Among other things, the law eliminates the caps on medical benefits and prescription drugs used as cost-containment measures in many health-care plans. It also allows children to stay on their parents' plans until they turn 26.

So what are the Unions' demands to offset what they only now realize will push their overall costs higher? What else: Moar!

To offset that, the nation's largest labor groups want their lower-paid members to be able to get federal insurance subsidies while remaining on their plans. In the law, these subsidies were designed only for low-income workers without employer coverage as a way to help them buy private insurance.



Top officers at the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, the AFL-CIO and other large labor groups plan to keep pressing the Obama administration to expand the federal subsidies to these jointly run plans, warning that unionized employers may otherwise drop coverage.

But, but, they can't - that's the whole point, or didn't they read that part too? Doesn't matter - to them it is now unfair, nay "unacceptable":

"We are going back to the administration to say that this is not acceptable," said Ken Hall, general secretary-treasurer for the Teamsters, which has 1.6 million members and dependents in health-care plans. Other unions involved in the push include the United Food and Commercial Workers International Union and Unite Here, which represents service and other workers."

So now that even the unions have understood that Obamacare is one big tax."
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lol-

Karma for those who listened to Nancy Pelosiovich when she suggested Congress "just pass the bill so we can all find out what's in it."

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Can we say "low information voters?"
YES WE CAN!

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#158542 Jan 31, 2013
Lyndi wrote:
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Don't split hairs. If people are deported {too bad, so sad} their family can follow. No one is keeping them here against their will.
There are repercussions and consequences for risky, illegal, premediated and ill-advised behaviors. I thought you would have learned that in law school.
You have it wrong.

It's split families, not hairs.

My values and yours are very different.
lisw

Sardinia, OH

#158543 Jan 31, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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You have it wrong.
It's split families, not hairs.
My values and yours are very different.
The same value that causes you to have empathy for the reasons that they broke our law (hunger, love for their children, yearning to be free)are the same values that I have that makes me so against a registry of all the mentally ill in our country for whatever purpose. See how that works?
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#158544 Jan 31, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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You have it wrong.
It's split families, not hairs.
My values and yours are very different.
Our checkbook cannot can't support "your" values.
You want this nation to operate on emotion and as a colossal charity event until everyone elses money runs out and I want to see this nation run like a business.
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But don't fret. If Phil Mikelson et al make an exodus from CA your taxes will go up higher and YOU can give more of yours away.

We all like Phil out here in normal-land and there are multiple other states in the union who wouldn't punish his success at 60+% and would welcome him with open arms.

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