“On a sailing ship to nowhere”

Since: Jun 07

Colorado

#158512 Jan 30, 2013
Rider on the Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
I just find it strange the IRS would allow alchohol as a write off. I suppose in Colorado and Washington they can now write off their pot purchases..........
In my case if they were to eliminate business deductions I would have to raise my prices about 80%.
And will the Fed allow tax deductions for marijuana seeds and supplies for growing and distribution in Colorado MJ businesses? A sticky wicket if you ask me. But nobody ever asks me.

“On a sailing ship to nowhere”

Since: Jun 07

Colorado

#158513 Jan 30, 2013
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>I prefer 'alive'.
:)
It has a nice ring to it. ;)
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#158514 Jan 30, 2013
Pernrider wrote:
<quoted text>
You're assumption would probably be correct. I just kinda stepped back into the thread without having to hash over past posts.
By the way, one of the reasons I decided to play in this muddy pond again after such a long break was because of the story of Manti Te'o's online gf with a story that reminded me so much of WIP. It just seemed so weird that both were online deaths due to cancer and related to Hawaii. I never could quite accept WIP's online tragedy but at the same time if it were true it was really sad. You know me, always the cynic.
WIP got the fundie Xtain nut cases going alright!
WIP (Writing in Paradise) did from cancer!

RIP WIP!

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#158515 Jan 30, 2013
Pernrider wrote:
<quoted text>
And will the Fed allow tax deductions for marijuana seeds and supplies for growing and distribution in Colorado MJ businesses? A sticky wicket if you ask me. But nobody ever asks me.
The whole thing could drive you to drinking....

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#158516 Jan 30, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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In their circumstances, most of us would have done the same.

It's inhuman to break up mothers and their children.

It's inhuman to force young men and women to leave the only country they have ever known, and have to go to a place totally foreign to them.

That's how I see it anyway.
Yes, some illegals are here under circumstances with which most people could sympathize. If an old man's wife is in extreme pain and the drugstore is closed, who among us would condemn the old man for breaking in to get his wife the painkiller she needs? But does that mean it's okay for the old man to break the law, or for the illegals to break the law? Besides, many illegals come here with no intention of "building a better life for themselves and/or their children." They come to sell drugs, etc.

I absolutely agree it's inhuman to break up families or send away young people whose parents brought them here as children and have grown up here. When this new immigration bill is finally presented, I hope it will include provisions for dealing with these groups to allow most of them to stay legally, and I'm sure it will. AS LONG AS THE BORDER IS PROPERLY SECURED, putting an end to the flow of illegals coming here, breaking our laws, inhibiting security and using resources meant for legal residents, I'm willing to accept that many who are already here illegally will be permitted to stay.

Securing the border MUST come first. When you want to stop a sink from overflowing, the first thing you do is turn the water off.

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#158517 Jan 30, 2013
I'll add this real quick: I haven't heard the full details of the bill Rubio is working on, and I realize it will undergo numerous revisions, etc. before it finally reaches the Senate floor for voting. But from what I HAVE heard, it sounds like a very workable compromise.

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#158518 Jan 30, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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In their circumstances, most of us would have done the same.
It's inhuman to break up mothers and their children.
It's inhuman to force young men and women to leave the only country they have ever known, and have to go to a place totally foreign to them.
That's how I see it anyway.
More bleeding heart bs.

If it was me with a family, I would NOT enter a foreign country illegally. I'd find out about the waiting period to apply for citizenship, then after learning that's a long haul, I'd apply for a work permit after getting at the back of the line. And I'd keep that up to date, so they'd have no reason to hassle me. Pure common sense, nothing more. And I doubt if I'm an isolated case.

If my family was allowed to live with me here while I worked, fine. If not, they'd live in TJ or one of the other border communities until it was time to take the Pledge of Allegiance.

By jumping the border, illegal aliens brought all their woes on themselves over a long period of time.

All US sanctuary cities need to be eliminated immediately, and as I said b4 no entitlements other than CRITICAL medical aid. Scuffed knee or broken finger doesn't qualify.

We don't have the billions of $$ annually to give away to people that should NOT be here (IMO).

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#158519 Jan 30, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
OK, strike the word inhumane.
Substitute, "uncompassionate."
What I mean is that, if you have a heart, you will empathize.
You won't place the scarlet letter on these people.
Well then do you want open borders with Canada & Mexico where ANYone can come and go??

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#158520 Jan 30, 2013
Roberta G wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, some illegals are here under circumstances with which most people could sympathize. If an old man's wife is in extreme pain and the drugstore is closed, who among us would condemn the old man for breaking in to get his wife the painkiller she needs? But does that mean it's okay for the old man to break the law, or for the illegals to break the law? Besides, many illegals come here with no intention of "building a better life for themselves and/or their children." They come to sell drugs, etc.
I absolutely agree it's inhuman to break up families or send away young people whose parents brought them here as children and have grown up here. When this new immigration bill is finally presented, I hope it will include provisions for dealing with these groups to allow most of them to stay legally, and I'm sure it will. AS LONG AS THE BORDER IS PROPERLY SECURED, putting an end to the flow of illegals coming here, breaking our laws, inhibiting security and using resources meant for legal residents, I'm willing to accept that many who are already here illegally will be permitted to stay.
Securing the border MUST come first. When you want to stop a sink from overflowing, the first thing you do is turn the water off.
I agree with you 100 percent that border security must be part and parcel of any bill to reform immigration. I don't want to open the floodwaters. I just want to be fair and decent and kind to people who are already here, by what I would call accident of their existence. Fate, life, whatever you call it, has left them in this situation.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#158521 Jan 30, 2013
bad bob wrote:
<quoted text>
More bleeding heart bs.
If it was me with a family, I would NOT enter a foreign country illegally. I'd find out about the waiting period to apply for citizenship, then after learning that's a long haul, I'd apply for a work permit after getting at the back of the line. And I'd keep that up to date, so they'd have no reason to hassle me. Pure common sense, nothing more. And I doubt if I'm an isolated case.
If my family was allowed to live with me here while I worked, fine. If not, they'd live in TJ or one of the other border communities until it was time to take the Pledge of Allegiance.
By jumping the border, illegal aliens brought all their woes on themselves over a long period of time.
All US sanctuary cities need to be eliminated immediately, and as I said b4 no entitlements other than CRITICAL medical aid. Scuffed knee or broken finger doesn't qualify.
We don't have the billions of $$ annually to give away to people that should NOT be here (IMO).
Looking at your post reminds me to remember how thankful I am to the majority of Americans for re-electing our president.

Yes, there's a culture war in place.

Thankfully, those with hearts are leading the ones with ice flowing through their veins.

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#158522 Jan 30, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with you 100 percent that border security must be part and parcel of any bill to reform immigration. I don't want to open the floodwaters. I just want to be fair and decent and kind to people who are already here, by what I would call accident of their existence. Fate, life, whatever you call it, has left them in this situation.
It sounds like we agree on the essentials :)

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#158523 Jan 30, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Looking at your post reminds me to remember how thankful I am to the majority of Americans for re-electing our president.
Yes, there's a culture war in place.
Thankfully, those with hearts are leading the ones with ice flowing through their veins.
Don't underestimate my good friend badbob. He DEFINITELY has a heart, and it's actually a pretty big one :) But he is also the sworn enemy of hypocrisy and cant, no matter where--or whom--they might be from. Beneath that clown get-up he wears is that big heart, a keen mind--and a Whack-a-mole Extraordinaire, used on appropriate noggins ;)
Chris Clearwater

Clearwater, FL

#158524 Jan 31, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Looking at your post reminds me to remember how thankful I am to the majority of Americans for re-electing our president.
Yes, there's a culture war in place.
Thankfully, those with hearts are leading the ones with ice flowing through their veins.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

“2016 No Clinton No Bush!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#158525 Jan 31, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>I'm going to risk telling a little story. I think I was a good clinician but certainly not one tobe written up in the manuals, so my assumption is that most people acted like me. I had a lady with schizophrenia transferred to me from another county where she was on mandatory shots of haldol. They gave her a bad case of tardive dyskenesia. The doctor where I worked wanted to try her on a milder medication and trust her to take it. The lady was motivated to be well, but something told me to keep a close check on her. I saw her in her home so that was easy to do. Sure enough she became very symptomatic and I was able to get her to return to the doctor that gave the shots. We had to be sort of unafraid and willing to take a risk. I just have to support the mental health system we have to some extent. It's not a bad one. Clients know we care and that we're not scared.
If you're taking what I've been saying as criticism of your profession, I'm sorry I gave you that impression.

I know we've done remarkable things for people who used to be institutionalized, and we've improved the quality of most psychiatric hospitals, and I don't want to go back to the bad old days.
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#158526 Jan 31, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
In their circumstances, most of us would have done the same.
It's inhuman to break up mothers and their children.
It's inhuman to force young men and women to leave the only country they have ever known, and have to go to a place totally foreign to them.
That's how I see it anyway.
No one who is seriously debating this issue in DC wants to break up mothers from their children......you're spreading false information.
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#158527 Jan 31, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
OK, strike the word inhumane.
Substitute, "uncompassionate."
What I mean is that, if you have a heart, you will empathize.
You won't place the scarlet letter on these people.
<sniffle sniffle>
Would you like to borrow my hankie?
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#158528 Jan 31, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with you 100 percent that border security must be part and parcel of any bill to reform immigration. I don't want to open the floodwaters. I just want to be fair and decent and kind to people who are already here, by what I would call accident of their existence. Fate, life, whatever you call it, has left them in this situation.
Their parents weren't war torn refugees fleeing battle zones, Catcher. Their parents learned the meaning of "anchor babies", heard that the streets here are paved with entitlements, made a conscious decision to skip lawful entry and you want to welcome them with a marching band and get all teary.

You're worse than Boehner.

Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#158529 Jan 31, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Looking at your post reminds me to remember how thankful I am to the majority of Americans for re-electing our president.
Yes, there's a culture war in place.
Thankfully, those with hearts are leading the ones with ice flowing through their veins.
Yup. Word on high is the economy just tanked further and his ratings went up.

That's one for the psychiatric community to ponder.
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#158530 Jan 31, 2013
bad bob wrote:
<quoted text>
Well then do you want open borders with Canada & Mexico where ANYone can come and go??
Only if they vote democrat. If they were prone to voting republican, Obama would be building something comparable to the Great Wall of China.

“The future begins”

Since: Jul 07

every moment

#158532 Jan 31, 2013
Pernrider wrote:
<quoted text>
You're assumption would probably be correct. I just kinda stepped back into the thread without having to hash over past posts.
By the way, one of the reasons I decided to play in this muddy pond again after such a long break was because of the story of Manti Te'o's online gf with a story that reminded me so much of WIP. It just seemed so weird that both were online deaths due to cancer and related to Hawaii. I never could quite accept WIP's online tragedy but at the same time if it were true it was really sad. You know me, always the cynic.
Yes, I thought the same when I was first aware of her impending (alleged) demise. I earned my skeptic badge way back. My radar was up from there, and ultimately tipped me in her favor - I never once saw her use it in any way in discussion - for debate points, for sympathy, for anything. If it was fake, I reasoned, to what purpose if she didn't use it? She also sent me a couple private messages that rang the same bell. Yes, Lord knows I do need to see the wounds, as it were, so I wouldn't bet my house on it, but in total, it did appear real enough.

As for the QB kid, I don't have an opinion except, as the prophet Morrison said, people are strange. It seems so silly I've not looked at it beyond the headlines.

I hadn't been here since November. Just jumped back in a couple days ago 'cos it's so nasty outside and TV sucks, mostly. Glad I got to "see" ya. You'ns take care. Peace. rk

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