Bush is a hero
lisw

Delaware, OH

#158389 Jan 29, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Business dinner; 50% writeoff. IRS doesn't check the vintage of the wine, the items consumed, the amount of the tip, nothing. It's the regular practice among the wealthy, and they laugh all the way to the bank.
This is the reality. The taxpayer takes the hit.
I understand that as a lawyer you are used to going under, over and around the law for your client, but most people aren't like that. Golden rule you know.

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#158390 Jan 29, 2013
Pernrider wrote:
<quoted text>
What tax deductions are allowed to businesses, what monies go to fight wars that you agree with or not, are not on par with the government forcing companies to provide insurance for their employees to take the life of their unborn.
In your opinion.

In mine, protecting the right of women to self defense, personal risk assessment, and comprehensive, appropriate, medical care, is every bit as important as protecting the 'unborn'.(A phrase, by the way, which has always baffled me: do you refer to yourself as 'undead'?)

For the record, companies are not being forced to provide medical insurance of any kind, by the Obamacare mandate. Any company can forgo supplying insurance coverage, period. A side effect of that choice might be that they are not as competitive when hiring, but in this economy, more employers are making this choice all the time, and fewer prospective employees have the luxury of allowing the medical insurance offering (or lack thereof) be the deciding factor of whether we take the job or not.

And on a side note, if the so-called pro-life folks were really pro-life, there would be a lot more emphasis on things which prevent the practice of abortion, such as contraceptives, and less on preventing taxpayers from funding things like health-care.

JMO

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#158391 Jan 29, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>Is there anyone besides you who offers an opinion on an issue related to mental health who knows what they're talking about, lisw?
I know a giant pink rabbit that does.
lisw

Delaware, OH

#158392 Jan 29, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>And your point is?
I know what liberation theology is.
Liberation theology didn't come from Europe and didn't come from the spooky scary Jesuits even if some Jesuits preach(ed) it. It was originated by a Dominican (monk, I think?), and had adherents among a variety of South American orders.
Liberation theology in Central/South America peaked about thirty five years ago. The Vatican renounced it in the mid-80s, and it has only a handful of adherents today.
Basically what your post suggests is that you are concerned because many immigrants are Spanish speaking Catholics, no matter how much you try and dress it up.
Nothing new here ... my German speaking Catholic paternal ancestors ran into that in the mid-NINTEENTH century.
Um, Reverand Wright is a liberation theologist.

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#158393 Jan 29, 2013
Pernrider wrote:
<quoted text>
This morning it was cold and icy! This afternoon the kids were rowdy and seemed like the afternoon just didn't flow well. Some days are just like that. Most days I love my job. Today, not so much.
Thanks for asking.
How's life treating you?
I'm extraordinarily blessed to be married to the love of my life, and working at a job which pays a living wage. I have the great good luck to be among many friends and family, and we see each other regularly. Life is amazing!!

And the weather gets crazier every year...today, we had 63 degrees and balmy, tonight it's windy, wet, and cold. I figure any day where the weather here doesn't kill somebody, is a good day.

:)

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#158394 Jan 29, 2013
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>I can say with almost 100% certainty that if you have ongoing health coverage, and you visit the doctor for acid reflux, and the doctor prescribes Nexium, the insurance will pay for a generic at the least, minus the co-pay. The doctor will not send you away and ask you to consult your insurance company for alternative treatments first.
No doubt I'm twisting your words again.
Just for the record, Hip, ongoing health insurance won't always cover even a generic for acid reflux. I have had acid reflux disease for 25 years and my husband's employer's current health insurance policy for employees & family, a Blue Cross policy, is THE WORST. It does cover most prescriptions that either my husband or I need, but not for acid reflux.

But there's a silver lining to every cloud. Since I have to buy ranitidine for myself without insurance, at least I can take an extra dose if I think I'm likely to have trouble otherwise. I've found this does work very well most of the time, thanks be to God, as what I've gone through with acid reflux I wouldn't wish on anyone-not even Barack Obama ;)

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#158395 Jan 29, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>I understand that as a lawyer you are used to going under, over and around the law for your client, but most people aren't like that. Golden rule you know.
That's an unfounded accusation.

You don't know me.

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#158396 Jan 29, 2013
Pernrider wrote:
An article regarding churches and tax breaks
http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/05/...
A clip from the article:
For centuries, we have protected that autonomy by granting religious exemptions. These exemptions range from those like tax exemption under 501(c)(3)— which provides religious nonprofit groups with the same tax status available to secular nonprofits like Harvard University — to those that give special treatment to religion, such as the “ministerial exception” which exempts religious groups from some nondiscrimination laws when picking their ministers.
Both types protect religious liberty by providing room for religious institutions to thrive with minimal government encroachment and burden. That is why federal, state and local governments have virtually always exempted churches from taxation. It is also why the Supreme Court unanimously said a religious exemption was required in the Hosanna-Tabor case. And it is why Senator Ted Kennedy co-sponsored and President Bill Clinton signed the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, making religious exemptions the norm under federal law.
Simply put, religious exemptions preserve religious freedom, which benefits us all.
'The Yearly Cost of Religious Tax Exemptions:$71,000,000,000'

" ...local, state, and federal governments in the United States subsidize religion — to the tune of about $71 billion every year.
The issue of religious tax preferment is especially relevant now because the number of Americans living outside any religious tradition continues to grow,” said Tom Flynn, Free Inquiry’s editor.“That underscores the unfairness of taxing all Americans to subsidize religious institutions that only some Americans utilize.

...(W)e think it best to address a criticism that is likely to be raised about this article. By suggesting that these groups should pay taxes, we are likely to be criticized by those who think that religions are largely charitable institutions engaged in beneficial service or charitable work and should therefore be exempt from taxes.

“Whether it is the Quakers opposing slavery, Reverend King arguing for equality, or a Catholic soup kitchen feeding and sheltering all in need,” Rienzi said,“our history is full of examples confirming the great public benefit of our religious diversity.”(Mark Rienzi, senior counsel at the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty)

Right… because church leaders never use the pulpit to oppose civil rights for gay Americans, or speak out against affordable/accessible health-care for women, or use the extra money to buy themselves a larger house because Jesus wants them to be prosperous…

The researchers also ran a few other calculations.

...States bypass an estimated $26.2 billion per year by not requiring religious institutions to pay property taxes.
...Capital gains tax exemptions for religious institutions may be as much as $41 million a year.
...U.S. clergy may claim as much as $1.2 billion in tax exemptions annually via the parsonage allowance.

Given the current political scene, none of this is going to change anytime soon. Religious groups have far too much power in Washington and they’re not about to ask the government to remove their special privileges.

Religion is a business, churches get tax breaks they don’t really deserve, and we’d all be better off if they paid their fair share.
-Hemant Mehta, US Citizen

Opinions. We all got 'em.

“On a sailing ship to nowhere”

Since: Jun 07

Colorado

#158397 Jan 29, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>And your point is?
I know what liberation theology is.
Liberation theology didn't come from Europe and didn't come from the spooky scary Jesuits even if some Jesuits preach(ed) it. It was originated by a Dominican (monk, I think?), and had adherents among a variety of South American orders.
Liberation theology in Central/South America peaked about thirty five years ago. The Vatican renounced it in the mid-80s, and it has only a handful of adherents today.
Basically what your post suggests is that you are concerned because many immigrants are Spanish speaking Catholics, no matter how much you try and dress it up.
Nothing new here ... my German speaking Catholic paternal ancestors ran into that in the mid-NINTEENTH century.
Bull crap. Way to pull it out of your butt Willie. You just needed something to rile you up. Take it and run with it. It's what you dems do.
lisw

Delaware, OH

#158398 Jan 29, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
That's an unfounded accusation.
You don't know me.
No I don't know you and I apologize as it wasn't meant as a slam. You yourself are saying these deductions are legal. It would be just plain stupid for people not to use them. My suggestion is that you talk not about the rich people but about the laws. I happen to think a flat tax is fair but noone including the middle class wants that. Romney wanted to get rid of all the deductions but you sure didn't vote for him. BTW you don't know me but are so glad to go under assumptions. Pay attention I think you'll be so pleasantly suprised how kind and wonderful conservatives are.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#158399 Jan 29, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>No I don't know you and I apologize as it wasn't meant as a slam. You yourself are saying these deductions are legal. It would be just plain stupid for people not to use them. My suggestion is that you talk not about the rich people but about the laws. I happen to think a flat tax is fair but noone including the middle class wants that. Romney wanted to get rid of all the deductions but you sure didn't vote for him. BTW you don't know me but are so glad to go under assumptions. Pay attention I think you'll be so pleasantly suprised how kind and wonderful conservatives are.
Thanks, especially for the very last part....:)

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#158400 Jan 29, 2013
bad bob wrote:
<quoted text>
<OFF TOPIC>
MEOOWWWRRR!! Cheap shot, unbecoming of one with such a snooty vocabulary.
Lyndi already knows I'm a huge fan, as I said so about 3 months ago or so. Old news, which only shows your desperation at grasping for a snappy comeback.
You'd be much better off adding Lyndi (with Lis) to your ignore list, as I'm a big fan of BOTH. You & Roberta seem to get along well, it's unfortunate you can't bother to take Lis & Lyndi for who they are, and what they have to say.
That says a lot more about YOU, than it does about them, doesn't it?
You're quite right, of course, and I regret tossing that into the conversation, rather than into the circular file where it belonged.

Please accept my apology. I don't know what I was thinking.

“On a sailing ship to nowhere”

Since: Jun 07

Colorado

#158401 Jan 29, 2013
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>
...Basically what your post suggests is that you are concerned because many immigrants are Spanish speaking Catholics, no matter how much you try and dress it up.
Nothing new here ... my German speaking Catholic paternal ancestors ran into that in the mid-NINTEENTH century.
and this is why your reputation as a irritable old fart stands firm on topix. Don't get all butt hurt and pin this crap on something you wish I'd said.
Pernrider wrote:
<quoted text>
...
While Hispanics are a diverse group those who come from south of the border also happen to have been indoctrinated with a heavy amount of socialism brought in through previous European governments, their current governments, and the Catholic Jesuits.
... My worry is that if they are allowed to bypass the U.S. Citizenship requirements (government and English) they will not learn about the history of the government of their new land. They will be easy prey for the far Left due to previous indoctrination and their natural and understandable desire to speak their native language and be with their own community will compound that mindset...
My worry is that "IF THEY ARE ALLOWED TO BYPASS CITIZENSHIP REQUIREMENTS" these things will come into play.

Sorry I said Jesuits and not Dominicans. I thought they were both Catholic. Not that I care if ANYONE is Catholic, speaks Spanish, or comes from a Marxist country. YOU MORON.

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#158402 Jan 29, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Good for you. I didn't expect this from you, and I respect you for it.
For what it's worth, I respect you for respecting Lis ;)

“On a sailing ship to nowhere”

Since: Jun 07

Colorado

#158403 Jan 29, 2013
Roberta G wrote:
<quoted text>
No, Hip, it doesn't, but I wasn't really trying to make a point anyway. I just think it would be amusing to see Emanuel having to confront such a question, when his own city has such a notoriously high murder rate. Sticking pins into overinflated balloons has always appealed to my mischievous streak ;)
Can we pop Willie? ;)

While the Oklahoma City murder rate rose the overall state's violent crime rate went down.

http://newsok.com/drop-in-oklahomas-violent-c...

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#158404 Jan 29, 2013
Roberta G wrote:
<quoted text>
For what it's worth, I respect you for respecting Lis ;)
:)
lisw

Delaware, OH

#158405 Jan 29, 2013
Pernrider wrote:
<quoted text>
and this is why your reputation as a irritable old fart stands firm on topix. Don't get all butt hurt and pin this crap on something you wish I'd said.
<quoted text>
My worry is that "IF THEY ARE ALLOWED TO BYPASS CITIZENSHIP REQUIREMENTS" these things will come into play.
Sorry I said Jesuits and not Dominicans. I thought they were both Catholic. Not that I care if ANYONE is Catholic, speaks Spanish, or comes from a Marxist country. YOU MORON.
Pern I've got to warn you there has been alot of nitpicking going on here lately. Typos, misspellings, wrong choice of words. It was mighty quiet in here for awhile and people are just trying to get back in the groove. It is good to see you. You know I always think you have alot to say in a really unwordy way. You get down to the nitty-gritty.

“On a sailing ship to nowhere”

Since: Jun 07

Colorado

#158406 Jan 29, 2013
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>I'm extraordinarily blessed to be married to the love of my life, and working at a job which pays a living wage. I have the great good luck to be among many friends and family, and we see each other regularly. Life is amazing!!
And the weather gets crazier every year...today, we had 63 degrees and balmy, tonight it's windy, wet, and cold. I figure any day where the weather here doesn't kill somebody, is a good day.
:)
Well that sounds about perfect. Glad your wage is alive and not dead. It's always a bummer when they're dead.
I know what you mean about the weather. Yesterday it was 54 and this morning it was snow and ice. Another go round tonight. It's been snowing for a while now.
I was just thinking on Friday evening that it felt like spring already and this snow feels more like a spring snow. Heavy and wet.
Tomorrow will be colder than today so I am bracing myself for that inevitability. You're right, as long as the weather doesn't kill somebody it's a good day.

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#158407 Jan 29, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
That's an unfounded accusation.
You don't know me.
You told me I couldn't answer your question about the bi-partisan Senate hearings on Immigration Reform. You don't know me either.

“On a sailing ship to nowhere”

Since: Jun 07

Colorado

#158408 Jan 29, 2013
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>Pern I've got to warn you there has been alot of nitpicking going on here lately. Typos, misspellings, wrong choice of words. It was mighty quiet in here for awhile and people are just trying to get back in the groove. It is good to see you. You know I always think you have alot to say in a really unwordy way. You get down to the nitty-gritty.
I can't say that what you are warning about surprises me. You guys have been on this thread for years and years battling away and getting nowhere. It is rather dysfunctional. But, at least occasionally, the fun part of dysfunction makes its appearance.
I used to be in a group of ladies who went on and on with their flowery phrases. It made me glaze over. I try not to get to wordy but sometimes I can't help myself! Thanks for the shout out. I am impressed with your tenacity. It is amazing that so many are still here.

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