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#157232 Dec 12, 2012
Chris Clearwater wrote:
Hey Lawest, this is why I think most are not honest. With what happened in Mi. yesterday and the msm says this:
Networks Skip Union Violence in Mich., Insist Protesters Are Simply 'Voicing Their Anger'
They make real threats and say they will kill people that disagree. A lie is evil sir and while I am very thankful of where I place my faith I will say unitl my last breath what is going on in this nation is evil and out of he pit of hell. We are on the wrong track here.
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2...
A little over a year ago the dems were decrying such statements and blaming R's for the shooting in AZ. because of statements like that.
IIRC

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#157233 Dec 12, 2012
Rider on the Storm wrote:
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A little over a year ago the dems were decrying such statements and blaming R's for the shooting in AZ. because of statements like that.
IIRC
What liberals believe just does not make any sense. Or it only makes sense if democrats do it. I tried to post earlier about this but it didn't show up. I found out recently that by March 2013 All social security checks must be by electronic deposit. Dems (liberals) thought it was awful to expect voters to have photo id's. But I'm not hearing a word of outrage about the same type of thing being enacted on our sick and elderly. My experience is to open a bank account you need photo ID. Then fees are charged with all accounts. Who is going to take them to open up the account, who is going to foot the bill for the fees? Dems asked the same about voter ID. but not about this.
It might not seem to relate but if it favors the liberals pov the liberals are for it. It doesn't matter who it hurts.

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#157234 Dec 12, 2012
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>What liberals believe just does not make any sense. Or it only makes sense if democrats do it. I tried to post earlier about this but it didn't show up. I found out recently that by March 2013 All social security checks must be by electronic deposit. Dems (liberals) thought it was awful to expect voters to have photo id's. But I'm not hearing a word of outrage about the same type of thing being enacted on our sick and elderly. My experience is to open a bank account you need photo ID. Then fees are charged with all accounts. Who is going to take them to open up the account, who is going to foot the bill for the fees? Dems asked the same about voter ID. but not about this.
It might not seem to relate but if it favors the liberals pov the liberals are for it. It doesn't matter who it hurts.
Good points.

Yes the photo ID is the mug shot and when you open the account you go through the fingerprinting. What the hell, are they opening up a bank account or getting tossed in the slammer..........
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#157235 Dec 12, 2012
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>What liberals believe just does not make any sense. Or it only makes sense if democrats do it. I tried to post earlier about this but it didn't show up. I found out recently that by March 2013 All social security checks must be by electronic deposit. Dems (liberals) thought it was awful to expect voters to have photo id's. But I'm not hearing a word of outrage about the same type of thing being enacted on our sick and elderly. My experience is to open a bank account you need photo ID. Then fees are charged with all accounts. Who is going to take them to open up the account, who is going to foot the bill for the fees? Dems asked the same about voter ID. but not about this.
It might not seem to relate but if it favors the liberals pov the liberals are for it. It doesn't matter who it hurts.
Don't need a bank account - you can have funds payable to a debit card issued for that purpose. You'll pay fees if you use it at an ATM.

I'm not really sure the decision to switch to electronic funds transfer is a "liberal" idea, but hey - you seem to think it can be used as one, so...

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#157236 Dec 12, 2012
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>Don't need a bank account - you can have funds payable to a debit card issued for that purpose. You'll pay fees if you use it at an ATM.
I'm not really sure the decision to switch to electronic funds transfer is a "liberal" idea, but hey - you seem to think it can be used as one, so...
I dont think it was an idea from liberals. The idea is to save money and those thoughts dont figure into a libs mind, their focused on spending it not saving it..........

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But, as I'm sure Lis will tell you the point is the big issue with photo id voting was the added cost those seniors would have and the hardship of obtaining it. That seemed to all fly out the window with this issue. Seems thats only a problem for voting.

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#157237 Dec 12, 2012
Rider on the Storm wrote:
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I dont think it was an idea from liberals. The idea is to save money and those thoughts dont figure into a libs mind, their focused on spending it not saving it..........
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But, as I'm sure Lis will tell you the point is the big issue with photo id voting was the added cost those seniors would have and the hardship of obtaining it. That seemed to all fly out the window with this issue. Seems thats only a problem for voting.
Her assumption seed to be that a bank account was required, which isn't true. Of course, you'd need identification to get SS so (if you think there's a point here) I supose it still works as well or as poorly.

That said ... since the poorer you the more likely you are to pay exorbitant fees, its probably a con idea after all...

Needless to say, I dont believe that - but it does seem to be what passes for political discussion these days.

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#157238 Dec 12, 2012
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>Her assumption seed to be that a bank account was required, which isn't true. Of course, you'd need identification to get SS so (if you think there's a point here) I supose it still works as well or as poorly.
That said ... since the poorer you the more likely you are to pay exorbitant fees, its probably a con idea after all...
Needless to say, I dont believe that - but it does seem to be what passes for political discussion these days.
Don't be obtuse, it's unbecoming. You know very well what the point is. Whether a dem or an R thought it up requiring electronic deposit requires the same thing that getting ID to vote does. The only difference is the outcry. I am for the electronic deposit. It makes sense and reduces waste, not to mention theft. But it does require an account whether debit or checking. You are aware that each debit transaction has a charge, right? I am also for voter ID. But anything good takes some work to help those who don't normally operate that way. The idea that voter ID disenfranchises anyone is a red herring. If it weren't people would be complaining about electronic deposits. Plain and simple.

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#157239 Dec 12, 2012
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>Don't be obtuse, it's unbecoming. You know very well what the point is. Whether a dem or an R thought it up requiring electronic deposit requires the same thing that getting ID to vote does. The only difference is the outcry. I am for the electronic deposit. It makes sense and reduces waste, not to mention theft. But it does require an account whether debit or checking. You are aware that each debit transaction has a charge, right? I am also for voter ID. But anything good takes some work to help those who don't normally operate that way. The idea that voter ID disenfranchises anyone is a red herring. If it weren't people would be complaining about electronic deposits. Plain and simple.
No, it does not require a bank account. You can get a govt issued (EBT) card. I'm assuming there is a fee schedule, but I'm on my phone and can't easily search for it.

BTW, neither my banks nor my credit union charge me for retail debits, even with cash back.

I see where you were trying to go - I just don't think you got there. In the conversation about voter ID there were more red herrings than a busy fish market at the height of the season on both sides

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#157240 Dec 12, 2012
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>No, it does not require a bank account. You can get a govt issued (EBT) card. I'm assuming there is a fee schedule, but I'm on my phone and can't easily search for it.
BTW, neither my banks nor my credit union charge me for retail debits, even with cash back.
I see where you were trying to go - I just don't think you got there. In the conversation about voter ID there were more red herrings than a busy fish market at the height of the season on both sides
Not to mention the fact that the Voter ID requirement was unnecessary on its face. It was a solution in search of a problem.

The reason there is no hue and cry about the EBT requirement for Social Security being 'discriminatory', is that there is ALREADY a phhoto ID requirement attached to receiving Social Security. One has to show 3 forms of ID, with at least one being a state or Federally issued photo, before receiving one's SS card, and always has.
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#157241 Dec 12, 2012
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>Don't be obtuse, it's unbecoming. You know very well what the point is. Whether a dem or an R thought it up requiring electronic deposit requires the same thing that getting ID to vote does. The only difference is the outcry. I am for the electronic deposit. It makes sense and reduces waste, not to mention theft. But it does require an account whether debit or checking. You are aware that each debit transaction has a charge, right? I am also for voter ID. But anything good takes some work to help those who don't normally operate that way. The idea that voter ID disenfranchises anyone is a red herring. If it weren't people would be complaining about electronic deposits. Plain and simple.
All you might as well given into national ID RFID tagged and get 666 on forehead...

BWHHAHAHHAAAAAa
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#157242 Dec 12, 2012
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>No, it does not require a bank account. You can get a govt issued (EBT) card. I'm assuming there is a fee schedule, but I'm on my phone and can't easily search for it.
BTW, neither my banks nor my credit union charge me for retail debits, even with cash back.
I see where you were trying to go - I just don't think you got there. In the conversation about voter ID there were more red herrings than a busy fish market at the height of the season on both sides
Psst Some bank do charge for have saving and/or checking account...

And, add insult to injury with US cause of global financial contagion they had hit world with 1% fee and with other hidden fees...

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#157243 Dec 12, 2012
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>My dad, the card, told us kids never to buy anything from a guy with 'honest' in front of his name: a man who has to claim honesty, is un-acquainted with the meaning of the word.(Also that there is no such thing as an 'honest used-car salesman'.)
Funny AND true :)

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#157244 Dec 13, 2012
Roberta G wrote:
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Funny AND true :)
Apparently the humor was lost on the original recipient...

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#157245 Dec 13, 2012
has anyone noticed the Republican manufactured "fiscal cliff" is coming back to bite them in the AZZ

There would be NO "fiscal Cliff" if the Republicans hadn't used tax increases on the top 2% as a bargaining chip during last years debt ceiling debacle.

They were so sure Willard Romney was going to win the election they wouldn't have anything to worry about...well...(they shouldn't have listened to Karl Rove)

The Republican Party is truly in crisis, and that crisis is now coming to a head. The popular vote in the most recent election was an endorsement of Obama’s performance and a clear refutation of GOP extremism.

The majority in the country want taxes on the top 2% to increase, it appears the Republicans are Hell bent on their very own extinction.

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#157249 Dec 13, 2012
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has anyone noticed the Republican manufactured "fiscal cliff" is coming back to bite them in the AZZ
There would be NO "fiscal Cliff" if the Republicans hadn't used tax increases on the top 2% as a bargaining chip during last years debt ceiling debacle.
They were so sure Willard Romney was going to win the election they wouldn't have anything to worry about...well...(they shouldn't have listened to Karl Rove)
The Republican Party is truly in crisis, and that crisis is now coming to a head. The popular vote in the most recent election was an endorsement of Obama’s performance and a clear refutation of GOP extremism.
The majority in the country want taxes on the top 2% to increase, it appears the Republicans are Hell bent on their very own extinction.
That's correct.

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#157250 Dec 13, 2012
A teacher was teaching her second grade class about the government, so for homework that one day, she told her her students to ask their parents what the government is.

When Little Johnny got home that day, he went up to his dad and ask his what the government was.

His dad thought for a while and answered,''Look at it this way: I'm the president, your mom is Congress, your maid is the work force, you are the people and your baby brother is the future.''

''I still don't get it'' responded the Little Johnny.

''Why don't you sleep on it then? Maybe you'll understand it better,'' said the dad.

''Okay then...good night'' said Little Jonny went off to bed. In the middle of the night, Little Johnny was awakened by his baby brother's crying. He went to his baby brother's crib and found that his baby brother had taken a crap in his diaper. So Little Johnny went to his parent's room to get help. When he got to his parent's bedroom, he looked through the keyhole to check if his parents were asleep. Through the keyhole he saw his mom loudly snoring, but his dad wasn't there. So he went to the maid's room. When he looked through the maid's room keyhole, he saw his dad having sex with his maid. Little Johnny was surprised, but then he just realized something and thinks aloud,''OH!! Now I understand the government! The President is screwing the work force, Congress is fast asleep, nobody cares about the people, and the future is full of shit!''

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#157251 Dec 13, 2012
VisionXIIX wrote:
has anyone noticed the Republican manufactured "fiscal cliff" is coming back to bite them in the AZZ
There would be NO "fiscal Cliff" if the Republicans hadn't used tax increases on the top 2% as a bargaining chip during last years debt ceiling debacle.
They were so sure Willard Romney was going to win the election they wouldn't have anything to worry about...well...(they shouldn't have listened to Karl Rove)
The Republican Party is truly in crisis, and that crisis is now coming to a head. The popular vote in the most recent election was an endorsement of Obama’s performance and a clear refutation of GOP extremism.
The majority in the country want taxes on the top 2% to increase, it appears the Republicans are Hell bent on their very own extinction.
I have to chuckle at you multiple positive judgicons We all know you gave them to yourself. Now i understand, positive self-talk and all. My husband is in a wheelchair and can only stand to a walker and pivot to another seat. It's a real effort but at the end he says "good job" He is my hero. But on an anonymous forum, I have to tell you it seems kind of silly.(and pathetic)
Lyndi

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#157252 Dec 13, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
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That's correct.
No, it isn't.

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#157253 Dec 13, 2012
Lyndi wrote:
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No, it isn't.
Yes it is.

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#157254 Dec 13, 2012
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>I have to chuckle at you multiple positive judgicons We all know you gave them to yourself. Now i understand, positive self-talk and all. My husband is in a wheelchair and can only stand to a walker and pivot to another seat. It's a real effort but at the end he says "good job" He is my hero. But on an anonymous forum, I have to tell you it seems kind of silly.(and pathetic)
Can one judge one's own posts? I've been laboring under the impression that was prohibited.

Merry Christmas, Lis.

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