Bush is a hero

Since: Jan 11

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#156753 Dec 3, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
You're off-topic, Tide.
You're welcome.
Catcher1 wrote:
What do you think, is Bush a hero?
Nope.
Catcher1 wrote:
If so, why and if not, why not?
I don't recall him doing anything heroic. He's a national embarrassment, a joke, and a testament to how strong a government we have, that we can survive even with a toddler at the wheel.
Catcher1 wrote:
Careful now, some of the folks here will bite you in the butt.
I already know about Clementia. Thanks for the heads up though.
UIDIOTRACEMAKWOR LDPEACE

United States

#156754 Dec 3, 2012
BobinTX wrote:
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Excuse me, those are the obama tax cuts. The Bush tax cuts expired in 2011.
I think the Republicans should vote "present" and let the Democrats own what they're planning to do to the economy.
a report issued by the Grace Commission during the Reagan Administration

With two-thirds of everyone's personal income taxes wasted or not collected, 100 percent of what is collected is absorbed solely by interest on the Federal debt and by Federal Government contributions to transfer payments. In other words, all individual income tax revenues are gone before one nickel is spent on the services which taxpayers expect from their Government.

Since: Oct 12

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#156755 Dec 3, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
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You're welcome.
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Nope.
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I don't recall him doing anything heroic. He's a national embarrassment, a joke, and a testament to how strong a government we have, that we can survive even with a toddler at the wheel.
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I already know about Clementia. Thanks for the heads up though.
LMAO!!!

I'm a good girl, you bad boy!
UIDIOTRACEMAKWOR LDPEACE

United States

#156756 Dec 3, 2012
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>Oh dear karl I thought you were just a touch smarter than this. Obama has managed to sully Hillary's reputation with this Benghazi thing as well as the reputation of Susan Rice. I Think Rice agreed to fall on her sword but not Hillary. When it's all done no one will be clean except maybe Obama. But we all know he's the problem.
Yep Interrelated to 'Arab Spring' movement, as many Middle East/Africa wants to rid all of the obnoxious dictatorial US puppet leaders and US Military... from the mid East. We can't blame the Arabs.
UIDIOTRACEMAKWOR LDPEACE

United States

#156757 Dec 3, 2012
Clementia wrote:
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LMAO!!!
I'm a good girl, you bad boy!
LOL! You mean BAD Boy Hitler Bushie Junior licking his dirty Imperial directive ' leather bootstraps...! heil sieg! Wash mind of the evil! BHHHAHHAHAAAAA
UIDIOTRACEMAKWOR LDPEACE

United States

#156758 Dec 3, 2012
How Reagan's Propaganda Succeeded
by Robert Parry (A Special Report)

In the 1980s, CIA propaganda experts and military psy-war specialists oversaw the creation of special programs aimed at managing public perceptions in targeted foreign countries as well as inside the United States.
...[Ronald] Reagan’s CIA Director William J. Casey played a key behind-the-scenes role in pushing [a] political action initiative, which recruited well-heeled private-sector conservatives to subsidize the secretive government operations.
... Casey used a senior CIA propaganda and disinformation specialist named Walter Raymond Jr., who was placed inside the National Security Council in 1982, to oversee the project and to circumvent legal prohibitions against the CIA engaging in propaganda that might influence U.S. public opinion or politics.

“Pillars of Creation....”

Since: Jan 11

Into this world we're thrown

#156759 Dec 3, 2012
Chris Clearwater wrote:
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I don't know. If the goal is to win at all cost might be good for the left. On radio I heard a study (wish I knew who did it) that if we go over the cliff and jobs tank 60% will blame the right no matter what. Hope thats not the case but after this election its clear many are clueless and stand on whatever Letterman says. Also heard that in 12 months we will back at 11-12 % unemployment.
They would blame them because they would be increasing EVERYONES taxes to protect the top 2%. I would even blame them CC. But Im not a big proponent that raising taxes on the top 2% is going to create this great reduction in jobs. It might create consumer confidence though.

No doubt the dems have the cards stacked in their favor on this, I dont see em compromising.

“Pillars of Creation....”

Since: Jan 11

Into this world we're thrown

#156760 Dec 3, 2012
BobinTX wrote:
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Excuse me, those are the obama tax cuts. The Bush tax cuts expired in 2011.
I think the Republicans should vote "present" and let the Democrats own what they're planning to do to the economy.
You got a good point there.

I really dont know what the answer is, But like I said, I dont think protecting top earners is worth the problems it creates.

Since: Jul 12

Washington, DC

#156761 Dec 3, 2012
BobinTX wrote:
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Another reading comprehension challenged liberal. How unique... NOT.
President Bush left office on January 20, 2009, and the Bush tax cuts automatically expired in 2011. obama extended the obama tax cuts... President Bush wasn't signing bills into law in 2011.
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Th Democrats aren't compromising... it's their way or the highway. Haven't you been listening to barry?
If you believe that obama's bad policies are going to pass, and also believe that it will put us back into recession, cripple the economy, and cost hunreds of thousands of jobs... I think they're better off backing away from it, let things happen the Democrats's way, and then when the public votes your party back in, like they did in 2010, fix it then.
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That's just parroting obama's class warfare nonsense. barry doesn't care that raising taxes on those millionaires and billionaires that make $200,000 a year will not do squat for increasing revenues, it produces good sound bites for his illiterate "takers" base.
After the 2010 election, the Repubicans were not compromising or even bargaining. They extracted a dollar for dollar spending cut deal out of the Democrats with no tax increases at all.$2.1 Trillion in all. This was cheered on by many of the irrational people in here.

Now an election has been held and the deal they walked from is beginning to look good. Unfortunately President Obama is going back and restoring the original deal so the 4:1 applies to the $2.1 Tril as well as this new deal.

That is going to cause the Republicans to tell Norquist to kiss their as* because he can't vote enough for all of them.

As far as I am concerned he should go for a 1:1 deal and settle for 2:1 and I think at this point a mahority of Americans would support it.

Since: Jan 11

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#156763 Dec 3, 2012
Clementia wrote:
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LMAO!!!
I'm a good girl, you bad boy!
It seems to me like you're straddling the fence.

Do you feel like a cowgirl?

I can get you the outfit.

Since: Jul 12

Washington, DC

#156764 Dec 3, 2012
Rider on the Storm wrote:
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You got a good point there.
I really dont know what the answer is, But like I said, I dont think protecting top earners is worth the problems it creates.
Gee, you have Bobin admitting that Obama has cut spending and taxes. Next thing you know Bobin will be talking about how great he is.

“zero nuclear weapons”

Since: Sep 08

Perryville

#156765 Dec 3, 2012
Lyndi wrote:
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Would you like to tell us why?
he had the same stance on the federal look at Executive Order 11110. was signed with the authority to basically strip the Bank of its power to loan money to the United States Federal Government at interest. With the stroke of a pen, President Kennedy declared that the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank would soon be out of business.

He was a strong advocate of social welfare and civil rights if that was part of his program i would vote

polices on foreign affairs instead of using American might talk to them on the same level part of his program

Since: Oct 12

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#156766 Dec 3, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
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It seems to me like you're straddling the fence.
Do you feel like a cowgirl?
I can get you the outfit.
Yeeeeeeeehaw!!!!!

Only if you wear the red-indian outfit?

We can do the good cowgirl and bad indian routine! ;-) hehehehehe

Since: Jan 11

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#156768 Dec 3, 2012
Clementia wrote:
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Yeeeeeeeehaw!!!!!
Only if you wear the red-indian outfit?
We can do the good cowgirl and bad indian routine! ;-) hehehehehe
I'm part Cherokee so that will work out.

If you step foot on my hunting grounds, I'll have to tickle you with feathers, as that is our custom.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#156769 Dec 3, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
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I'm part Cherokee so that will work out.
If you step foot on my hunting grounds, I'll have to tickle you with feathers, as that is our custom.
Keep it PG-13, Tide.

You too, Clementine.

There are Republicans among this thread's population.

Since: Oct 12

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#156770 Dec 3, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
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I'm part Cherokee so that will work out.
If you step foot on my hunting grounds, I'll have to tickle you with feathers, as that is our custom.
Well if it's a custom, I respect that!

You said "foot", but what if I put my hand on your hunting grounds, then what is your custom?

Since: Oct 12

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#156771 Dec 3, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
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Keep it PG-13, Tide.
You too, Clementine.
There are Republicans among this thread's population.
Oooops-a-daisy, I only read your msg now, soz.

Since: Jan 11

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#156772 Dec 3, 2012
Clementia wrote:
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Well if it's a custom, I respect that!
You said "foot", but what if I put my hand on your hunting grounds, then what is your custom?
The same, but you would also have to dance around the fire in the dress of ancestral respect, which isn't much more than some string and some feathers. They are large feathers.

We have to keep it PG13, so I won't talk about the dance of howling full moon.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#156773 Dec 3, 2012
Clementia wrote:
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Oooops-a-daisy, I only read your msg now, soz.
To change the subject.

Clementine, what's your view of the U.S. political scene?

Do you think we'll fall off the fiscal cliff (that's not naughty)?

Since: Jun 08

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#156774 Dec 3, 2012
Rider on the Storm wrote:
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They would blame them because they would be increasing EVERYONES taxes to protect the top 2%. I would even blame them CC. But Im not a big proponent that raising taxes on the top 2% is going to create this great reduction in jobs. It might create consumer confidence though.
No doubt the dems have the cards stacked in their favor on this, I dont see em compromising.
Acually I see it the other way around.Obama is willing to sacrifice the middle class for an ideal of "fair is fair" He wants to punish the rich so is willing to punish the middle class too if it's the only way to get the rich. They will gain nothing by taxing only the rich. Remember, a lousy eight days. The big thing is not protecting the rich. Republicans would give in on taxing the rich in a snap if Obama would agree to quit spending like a maniac.

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