Bush is a hero

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WasteWater wrote:
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And just who's fault is it that the woman is a drug addict?
You must be kidding me.
Her fault. Not kidding.

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WasteWater wrote:
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Good point. So saving money on sales tax works? How about the rest of the year?
People from surrounding states shop in Delaware's malls all year long to take advantge of the savings from DE having no sales tax. As Delaware is only 30 miles wide by 100 miles long, no mall is that far away, and usually they're within 10-15 minutes of state borders. During the holiday season, there are more out of state plates at the malls than there are Delaware plates.

Delaware malls do very well all year long, and are jammed during the holidays.

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Chris Clearwater wrote:
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Its called moral relativism the left owns it and wish nothing to do with it or where it takes a person. Its a real freak show out here~
The last time I checked it was called drug addiction. There are many reasons why people become addicted to drugs. Moral relativism isn't one of those reasons.

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Disney wrote:
<quoted text>o would fail.
obama has been failing for four years... but I think he probably gave up the drugs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

But then, one can't be too sure.
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The last time I checked it was called drug addiction. There are many reasons why people become addicted to drugs. Moral relativism isn't one of those reasons.
Wrong. Many people want to be stoned so that become numb and don't have to deal with the truth.

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Chris Clearwater wrote:
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Uh no. I was about 8 when Nancy Reagan had "Just say no to drugs" I lived in Washington at the time. Didn't know a thing about right or left but remember quite well vocal people mocking it and her over it. I thank God for her as I took that pledge when I was a kid. Sidenote Bill Cosby is also very vocal or was about being drug free but strange I've never heard him mocked over it. Oh well.
Fine, you don't take drugs. I commend you. I recall having a conversation with a police detective about a murder victim I knew well.

Detective Jones asked, "Did she start off smoking pot?"

I asked Jones, "Do you ever drink?"

Detective Jones replied, "We all have a drink or two after work."

I replied, "That's how Jennifer (the victim) started too."

The fact is people get injured or suffer mental illness. Some are simply medicating themselves. There are many reasons why people drink, smoke, or do drugs. "Just say no" is an over simplification.
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Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>Her fault. Not kidding.
True.
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BobinTX wrote:
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obama has been failing for four years... but I think he probably gave up the drugs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
But then, one can't be too sure.
Now thats funny. Thanks for a laugh.

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Chris Clearwater wrote:
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Wrong. Many people want to be stoned so that become numb and don't have to deal with the truth.
That may be what you right wingers need at this point.

Escape from the painful reality.

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YEs, test them and if they fail send them jail, pay an attorney to represent them and then send them off to jail for a longer time. That is much cheaper than letting them stay home and watch the kids.
Huh? Is that the drugs talking. Who said anything about jail?

They don't receive benefits until they get clean... the only benefit we should pay for.
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Then you can put the kids in a foster home and pay them to keep the kids.[/UOTE]

Is there a little voice in your head telling you these things, because it sure wasn't me?

[QUOTE who="okb2"]Kids from a single parent home have a much greater chance of dropping out of school and going on welfare or jail themselves. Locking Mom up makes jail routine and a normal part of life. It also greatly increases their already poor chances of being self-sufficient.
True. So why would we want to reward them to have more children?
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Since Mom can no longer get support her kids go in the system.
Mom could always conider getting a job. now, that's radical thinking, but it's a thought.
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Generations later someone wants to drug test again.
Yes, they do cost us money in many ways.
but Florida found that despite Republican rhetoric, there just were not that many on drugs.
Then there's no problem... in Florida.
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The added burden on the state just was not worth cost. I suggest you talk to Texas about it. Tell them you are willing to foot the bill.
I'm so happy for Florida.

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Fine, you don't take drugs. I commend you. I recall having a conversation with a police detective about a murder victim I knew well.
Detective Jones asked, "Did she start off smoking pot?"
I asked Jones, "Do you ever drink?"
Detective Jones replied, "We all have a drink or two after work."
I replied, "That's how Jennifer (the victim) started too."
The fact is people get injured or suffer mental illness. Some are simply medicating themselves. There are many reasons why people drink, smoke, or do drugs. "Just say no" is an over simplification.
Being a clinician I have seen and come to know intimately dual diagnosis people. I think they'd all to the last one say "just say no" is not an oversimplification. It really IS as simple as that. It's after people start using that it becomes very, very complicated.

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That may be what you right wingers need at this point.
Escape from the painful reality.
Not at all. As a matter of fact, I feel I have more reason than ever to remain sharp and at the top of my game and work to be the healthiest I've ever been. I'm at an age where I'm pretty sure that the older one is the less healthcare will be available to them. my husband is not as healthy (not through his own fault) and I will need to be sharp to oppose Obama healthcare options at every turn to be sure my husband gets what he needs. I'm rather excited about it. I like a good battle.

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okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>I am not against drug screening provided it saves money. I think if you are for drug screening you should be willing to foot the bill. However, I am willing to let you keep all the money you save doing it in return for footing the bill.
I suggest you talk to your Texas legistlature about it.
Investigating murders costs money too, and there's absolutely no chance of bringing back the dead... should we stop spending those $$$? Sometimes we spend money because it's the right thing to do.
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That may be what you right wingers need at this point.
Escape from the painful reality.
No thanks. I am here with eyes wide open. I've done what I can. Btw I'm doing ok in spite of how bad things are here in Fl. While housing is starting to tick up on a national level Tampa still going down. Might have a new job, working on it and over all happy. You see my reality has very little to do with what libs say day in day out about the right and I'm thankful. Ta ta.
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lisw wrote:
<quoted text>Not at all. As a matter of fact, I feel I have more reason than ever to remain sharp and at the top of my game and work to be the healthiest I've ever been. I'm at an age where I'm pretty sure that the older one is the less healthcare will be available to them. my husband is not as healthy (not through his own fault) and I will need to be sharp to oppose Obama healthcare options at every turn to be sure my husband gets what he needs. I'm rather excited about it. I like a good battle.
You bet!

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Chris Clearwater wrote:
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No thanks. I am here with eyes wide open. I've done what I can. Btw I'm doing ok in spite of how bad things are here in Fl. While housing is starting to tick up on a national level Tampa still going down. Might have a new job, working on it and over all happy. You see my reality has very little to do with what libs say day in day out about the right and I'm thankful. Ta ta.
Good for you then.

Just watch. Things will improve.

Concentrate on your personal life, and remember, we're all Americans. You are the loyal opposition.

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Wrong. Many people want to be stoned so that become numb and don't have to deal with the truth.
What truth would that be? That their life sucks? That they have demons to deal with? What do you know of such things? One doesn't think their way out of everything, especially mental illness. How does one erase low self-esteem? You are partly correct.

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lisw wrote:
<quoted text>Being a clinician I have seen and come to know intimately dual diagnosis people. I think they'd all to the last one say "just say no" is not an oversimplification. It really IS as simple as that. It's after people start using that it becomes very, very complicated.
That's easy to say. Let's say the person's life really sucks. It sucks due to alcoholism, drug addiction and depression. The person lives in a neighborhood where crime is rampant. The person also has a history of being sexually abused. How our truck drive friend encounters her in the parking lot. She is like a rabid dog and lashes out. She has never experienced a day of love in her life. She cannot recognize an act of love when the other person offers her a donut. She is going to just say no? I doubt it. What does she have to look forward too in life? First she needs to recognize that her life sucks and seek help. She needs to lover herself enough to do that. This is highly unlikely because she has such low self-esteem that she hates herself and is on a self-destructive path. She needs serious therapy but nobody is going to help her get it. Just say no. What do you have to offer this individual and those like her?

Are you kidding me?

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Talk to the states that did it or are doing it. Want to take money out of the defense budget to pay for it? Want to pay more in taxes to pay for it? I already told you it cost more than it saved so you have to pay for it someway.
You going to take me up on my offer? You foot the bill and any money saved is yours?
Or are you just a Republican finding ways to spend other peoples money?
I'm willing to cut the Department of Education to pay for it. If that's not enough, I'd be willing to cut the Department of Energy too. If we still need more, there's always the EPA budget.

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Lets not forget the farmers and oil people.
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