Since: Jul 12

Chester, VA

#154435 Nov 14, 2012
bad bob wrote:
<quoted text>
OR Obama's incompetent, the MSM buried the stories until AFTER the election, and Romney ran a conservative campaign after winning the the 1st debate. The MSM admitted after Romney failed to challenge
Obama on Benghazi in the 3rd debate, "if Romney's not gonna bring it up, why should we"?
As for the congressional seats, pay attention. I'm not a political junkie, only a street urchin. I'll leave the ins and outs of CSpan I and II to those who're more interested.
Benghazi was doing Romney more harm among independents than he was gaining off of has adoring base by discussing it. For the most part, his adoring base stayed in a bubble unable to see things objectively which led to their shock and dismay the morning after.

They did Romney a favor not talking about the drone being shot at. All that would have done is remind independents and the military already weary from war how anxious Romney was to go after Iran.

The bubble is kind of like you just ignoring the fact that the Republicans lost seats in the Senate and the House. It allows you to just focus on one Presidential election where you can't see what it is really about.

Since: Jul 12

Chester, VA

#154436 Nov 14, 2012
BobinTX wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry to burst your mediamatter's fantasy, but Bush 43 received a greater percentage of the popular vote when he ran for his second term than obama did. "W" only received about 200 thousand less votes than barry... even though the U.S. population had increased by about 25 million since 2004. And... both of them did far better than our sexual predator president, Bill Clinton.
If anyone is lowering the presidential bar, it's Democrats like Clinton and obama. Don't let the facts confuse you, just keep spewing your usual tripe.
You are absolutely correct about bush and Clinton concerning their 2nd term election. Perhaps you have an explanation of why even though Bill was impeached, he was then and remains miles ahead of bush on a "mission accomplished" basis in the minds of Americans.

You could also explain why even though bush was one of the most popular Presidents of all time during his second election by the end of his second term he was one of the most unpopular Presidents of all time.

Since: Jul 12

Chester, VA

#154437 Nov 14, 2012
BobinTX wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't think Roberta meant that obama qualified as a pRsident, as barry has shown most of us that he doesn't... but he might qualify as a snake, if snakes don't have standards.
I assume that when you say "most of us" you are referring to those on this thread. The election showed that "most of them" thought Obama suitably qualified, particularly in light of the choices.

“The future begins”

Since: Jul 07

every moment

#154438 Nov 14, 2012
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>You're overly long response convinces me I'm right. You really have to talk yourself into it don't you, that somehow you and your liberal colleagues take the high road. If it werent so pitiful it'd be funny. I asked you to be honest. Why do you tolerate for instance Biden. he was on that ticket and you are obviously okay with all the racist things he's said.
I don't quail and I sure don't shake my fists. I'm just amazed at your hypocricy.
Heheheh......hey do you have to grease up before a performance, or are you just naturally oily?

lisw, every time we have an exchange - every time - it always end with you doing some shuck & jive, and feigning being "Shocked! Shocked, I tell you!" at some outrage of your own construct.

You offered your typically broad and erroneous personal assumptions, you were shown to be wrong yet again, and you respond by tossing even more crap. Transparent and pitiful.

Since: Jul 12

Chester, VA

#154439 Nov 14, 2012
BobinTX wrote:
<quoted text>
That's what I sent my Senator and Congressman to do... hold the line on taxes, and cut spending instead. If they vote to raise taxes on the "makers", I'd consider that screwing us, and the USA.
obama has absolutely no clue as to what it takes to create jobs, as his past four years has shown... and it's for sure that penalizing those that are creating jobs won't do it.
Meeting with the big union's leaders won't do it, nor will meeting with big business... if many of them need to create new jobs, they do it overseas.
obama needs to meet with SMALL business owners, not unions and big businesses, they're the ones that create most of the jobs IN THE USA... but that group isn't getting a meeting with barry.
It's going to be a long four years for America.
Small business leaders also know more about laying off workers and failing. Do you have a point? No, of course not.

Obama probably knows more, or is at least interested more, in creating jobs than most of the Republican leadership in Congress.

In 1938 the top tax rate was increased significantly to a really punishing amount and it stayed in that area until about 1961 When President Kennedy reduced it to 70%. How much did the US economy grow between 1939 and 1962?

Reagan cut taxes, Clinton increased taxes, bush the son cut taxes.

Of the three, which had the largest job growth?

I was not quite honest on Reagan, he also had the largest tax increase in history. Practically doubled the SS and Medicare taxes on the self-employed SMALL BUSINESS OWNER. He also increased Capital Gains to 28%, almost double what it is today.

Of the two that were left above, which one had the second most jobs created?

Since: Jul 12

Chester, VA

#154440 Nov 14, 2012
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>" If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people-their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights and their civil liberties-someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal", then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal.-John Fitzgerald Kennedy.
Obama is no Kennedy, who would have viewed both the Patriot Act and the NDAA as anathema and abhorrent. JMO
Obama had no need to be Kennedy. Kennedy had to run against real Republicans who were conservative, not like todays Republicans at all.

Since: Jul 12

Chester, VA

#154441 Nov 14, 2012
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>That's just pathetic. You really have some superiority complex don't you? It's why you are a liberal. You're convinced you are a do-gooder. Well you're not, you are a man with a guilty conscience.
No, it is because he has seen DS's posts. A man who blames 100% of all of our "ills" on the scourge of "liberalism."

If any on the left blamed all the ills of society on "conservatism" we would sound ridiculous even to ourselves.

DS sounds completely natural and honest saying what he does, even to you. So, how would someone in that mental state understand someone else being proud of being liberal? How would you?

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#154442 Nov 14, 2012
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>Heheheh......hey do you have to grease up before a performance, or are you just naturally oily?
lisw, every time we have an exchange - every time - it always end with you doing some shuck & jive, and feigning being "Shocked! Shocked, I tell you!" at some outrage of your own construct.
You offered your typically broad and erroneous personal assumptions, you were shown to be wrong yet again, and you respond by tossing even more crap. Transparent and pitiful.
Not at all m'dear. You are a typical liberal and it is typical liberals that amaze me. Not outrage, amaze. Perhaps I'm not clear, I know I speak too plainly, but I am asking you where are your morals. Why are you so wonderfully unbigoted yet I have never heard you say anything about the bigoted things liberals say. I never hear you criticize those who have metaphorically lynched people like Condaleeza Rice, Mia (her last name escapes me) Herman Cain etc. Im asking why you never said anything when Sarah Palin was called the C word and so was Michelle Bachman, Michelle Malkin and sometimes right on this thread. Your marvelous lack of bigotry only goes one way...to the left. I think you know that I never have said a word about race making any difference, but I do know racism when I see it and it is rampant on the left and your silence and even your participation at times in spearing women, speaks quite loudly. I'm tired of it. I'm tired of the left and their self righteous claim to caring. They don't care. Lyndon Johnson didn't care and Barack Obama doesn't care. They are cut from the same cloth and held people down for their own aggrandisement.
Now a series of lies and coverups are being ignored by your side. I asked once who you want to be, the person that believes Obama is so out of the loop that he had no idea off what happened in Benghazi, now with Petreaus or do you want to believe he lied. Either way you are supporting wrong for the sake of liberalism. Well good luck with that.
Now this is a long post,what I criticize you for. Sorry. But if you think what I say has no merit why are you defending yourself so vehemently?

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#154443 Nov 14, 2012
I do wish Romney had been elected, he is a good man but he is also a capable man. Hip asked what it was about him and answered and then later he said noone chose to answer. Typical, So'm going to repeat it (paraphrasing) I first paid attention to Romney when he was on a Des moines radio station when he ran in the primary in 2004. He was respectflly confrontive with Jan Mikelson, when questions came to him abut being Mormon. He was like he was in the first debate. I admired that he defended his right to separate his religion from the race. he should have. It wa obvious in this campaign that he knew exactly how to come into a failing company and turn things around. That's what this country needed.
And I'm going to say something that noone is saying. Something is screwy. I along with others really thought Romney would win. Polls looked good and the party was motivated. Liberal papers were endorsing him all over the country. I think the results were false. Obama might have won anyway but no way did he win by that much without some tweeking. Why was the military vote so low. Why were there counties all over Ohio with not ONE vote for Romney? There is nothing wrong with the Republican party and there sure was alot right with Romney.
No Obama being president doesn't really effect me. But it sure will effect my kids and my grandchild. I just hope the next president can undo some of this total bungling and neglect.
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#154444 Nov 14, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry for my delay to reply, I was busy out of town.
1a) You seem so sure that Roe v. Wade will not be overturned and abortion rights will be protected, with a Republican administration's Supreme Court appointments.

1b) The problem is, you were also certain Rommney/Ryan would win the election. You weren't just confident, you were absolutely sure and just couldn't wait for the election. You can go back on the thread and revisit your premature group celebrations. And yet, you couldn't have been more wrong, could you? Obama trounced your guys in the electoral vote, and won every single one of the swing states (except North Carolina if you want to count it as such), including your own state.(And what an irony: After all the votes are counted, it may well be that Romney captured 47 percent of the vote. 47 percent, get it?) So you'll have to forgive me if I don't accept your certainty about abortion rights. As I see it, the Republican party has been kowtowing to the religious right, and I am confident we would end up with more Scalias, Thomases and Alitos.
2. OK. But you will continue to lose elections. Your best bet will be secession. You do have the Confederate states on your side. And on this note, I think it was Roberta who said she was leaving. Well she (or any of the rest of your group) can't go to Canada, they have healthcare there. Europe of course is out of the question. I suggest Somalia. It's a libertarian place, little central government; everybody has a gun; and it's a theocracy. OK, wrong god, but hey.)
3. Yeah, I know. Those who serve their country, or are receiving benefits after working hard all their life, etc. I'll pass on another joke on the 47 percent.
4. On gay marriage, this is where you are REALLY on the wrong side of history. Civil rights are civil rights, and the younger generations so see the issue. As do I.

5) Bottom line, you can try to bash Obama all you want, blame him for everything (Bush's economic disaster even), but you can't turn a blind eye to reality. Obama was reelected, and in a landslide.
With this, I'll return to the other threads. I'd like to see you there, where you and I see things more eye to eye. Please forgive my schadenfreude.
1) If Roe v Wade were ever in serious danger of being overturned, I visualize the women in this country unifying and launching an all out war on Washington.
1b) True and I'm unaccustomed to being wrong. Bear with me. Btw, not only did Florida disappoint but NH where my vote was cast went blue. It was a painful night for me. A double header. MA liberals have been moving into southern New Hampshire, buying their homes there and working in Boston. Yippee. Oh well. At least we can still make them put a LIVE FREE OR DIE tag on their cars.
2) I'm a Yankee. We whooped the confederates.
3) Someday I'll explain that 47% to you.
4) Sigh. I told you I don't care if they get married. I can't fight everybody's battles, Catcher.
5) I'm not turning a blind eye to reality. I'm also not going to fold. You want to turn me into a liberal and you have about as much hope for that as turning this Red Sox fan into a New York Yankee fan. It's not possible. lol- You did almost get me on the capital punishment thing. The jury is still out on that one.

"Schadenfreude" made me laugh. For a moment, I thought you were talking about your schwanstucker.

“The future begins”

Since: Jul 07

every moment

#154445 Nov 14, 2012
lisw wrote:
I do wish Romney had been elected, he is a good man but he is also a capable man. Hip asked what it was about him and answered and then later he said noone chose to answer. Typical,
That's an overt lie. Typical.

“The future begins”

Since: Jul 07

every moment

#154446 Nov 14, 2012
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>Not at all m'dear. You are a typical liberal and it is typical liberals that amaze me. Not outrage, amaze. Perhaps I'm not clear, I know I speak too plainly, but I am asking you where are your morals. Why are you so wonderfully unbigoted yet I have never heard you say anything about the bigoted things liberals say. I never hear you criticize those who have metaphorically lynched people like Condaleeza Rice, Mia (her last name escapes me) Herman Cain etc. Im asking why you never said anything when Sarah Palin was called the C word and so was Michelle Bachman, Michelle Malkin and sometimes right on this thread. Your marvelous lack of bigotry only goes one way...to the left. I think you know that I never have said a word about race making any difference, but I do know racism when I see it and it is rampant on the left and your silence and even your participation at times in spearing women, speaks quite loudly. I'm tired of it. I'm tired of the left and their self righteous claim to caring. They don't care. Lyndon Johnson didn't care and Barack Obama doesn't care. They are cut from the same cloth and held people down for their own aggrandisement.
Now a series of lies and coverups are being ignored by your side. I asked once who you want to be, the person that believes Obama is so out of the loop that he had no idea off what happened in Benghazi, now with Petreaus or do you want to believe he lied. Either way you are supporting wrong for the sake of liberalism. Well good luck with that.
Now this is a long post,what I criticize you for. Sorry. But if you think what I say has no merit why are you defending yourself so vehemently?
There ya go. Feel better? As usual, you turn a topic into a personal referendum, and get to use your limited thesaurus of pejoratives. I am glad to help, for mine is a servant ministry.

I hope you have the best day ever today.
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#154447 Nov 14, 2012
okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>
I assume that when you say "most of us" you are referring to those on this thread. The election showed that "most of them" thought Obama suitably qualified, particularly in light of the choices.
The election showed some of the people are in the mood to live in a oxymoronic society. A corralled, free-for all.

I'll just stay out here riding the range, thank you. I never was the type to join in on a mass bungee jump over a rock quarry.

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#154448 Nov 14, 2012
okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama had no need to be Kennedy. Kennedy had to run against real Republicans who were conservative, not like todays Republicans at all.
Obama needs to be Kennedy more than Kennedy did. Kennedy was a uniter - not a divider, and Kennedy knew that Civil Rights were for everyone. Obama believes he should be able to remove them from everyone at his discretion.(And 'promises' not to do it.)
Gag.

Of course, I concur with your second statement.
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#154449 Nov 14, 2012
Oh what fun.
Another 4 years of Nancy Pelosivich.

Sweet jezzez, you people have weird taste.

Since: Jul 12

Chester, VA

#154450 Nov 14, 2012
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>Not at all m'dear. You are a typical liberal and it is typical liberals that amaze me. Not outrage, amaze. Perhaps I'm not clear, I know I speak too plainly, but I am asking you where are your morals. Why are you so wonderfully unbigoted yet I have never heard you say anything about the bigoted things liberals say. I never hear you criticize those who have metaphorically lynched people like Condaleeza Rice, Mia (her last name escapes me) Herman Cain etc. Im asking why you never said anything when Sarah Palin was called the C word and so was Michelle Bachman, Michelle Malkin and sometimes right on this thread. Your marvelous lack of bigotry only goes one way...to the left. I think you know that I never have said a word about race making any difference, but I do know racism when I see it and it is rampant on the left and your silence and even your participation at times in spearing women, speaks quite loudly. I'm tired of it. I'm tired of the left and their self righteous claim to caring. They don't care. Lyndon Johnson didn't care and Barack Obama doesn't care. They are cut from the same cloth and held people down for their own aggrandisement.
Now a series of lies and coverups are being ignored by your side. I asked once who you want to be, the person that believes Obama is so out of the loop that he had no idea off what happened in Benghazi, now with Petreaus or do you want to believe he lied. Either way you are supporting wrong for the sake of liberalism. Well good luck with that.
Now this is a long post,what I criticize you for. Sorry. But if you think what I say has no merit why are you defending yourself so vehemently?
I think you are confused. There have been several of us that made blanket statements condemning all of the hate speech from whatever source.

Why would individual comments about each and every case be necessary?

Perhaps I am incorrect, but I think Hip is one who is included in the blanket statements.

Interestingly enought, it is many of the Republicans on this thread (to include indipendents who lean in that direction) who have not joined in the blanket statement. Why is that?

There are no real conservatives on this thread to the best of my knowledge.

Since: Jul 12

Chester, VA

#154451 Nov 14, 2012
lisw wrote:
I do wish Romney had been elected, he is a good man but he is also a capable man. Hip asked what it was about him and answered and then later he said noone chose to answer. Typical, So'm going to repeat it (paraphrasing) I first paid attention to Romney when he was on a Des moines radio station when he ran in the primary in 2004. He was respectflly confrontive with Jan Mikelson, when questions came to him abut being Mormon. He was like he was in the first debate. I admired that he defended his right to separate his religion from the race. he should have. It wa obvious in this campaign that he knew exactly how to come into a failing company and turn things around. That's what this country needed.
And I'm going to say something that noone is saying. Something is screwy. I along with others really thought Romney would win. Polls looked good and the party was motivated. Liberal papers were endorsing him all over the country. I think the results were false. Obama might have won anyway but no way did he win by that much without some tweeking. Why was the military vote so low. Why were there counties all over Ohio with not ONE vote for Romney? There is nothing wrong with the Republican party and there sure was alot right with Romney.
No Obama being president doesn't really effect me. But it sure will effect my kids and my grandchild. I just hope the next president can undo some of this total bungling and neglect.
I told you straight up, Romney alienated the military with his war talk towards Iran and Syria. The military vote went to Obama. The military wants to see diplomacy work and if it doesn't......?

Who is talking about N Korea being a nuclear power and what are we doing about it?

Why is this different?

You want to worry, think about the Muslim nation of Pakistan and how full of militants it is and how it has been a nuclear power for some time.

Now, what counties in Ohio had ZERO votes for Romney?

And now you know why Romney lost the election and why it was not close.
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#154452 Nov 14, 2012
Chris Clearwater wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey DS. Good to see you again. Man Tampa is front and center on Petraeus. This is as old as King David and Bathsheba. Praying for his wife. Praying for our nation.
I'm praying that the next guy in charge of secret goings on and covert operations lol- can keep his sexual indescretions private and not get outed by the FBI.

You can't make this stuff up.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Tompkinsville, KY

#154454 Nov 14, 2012
Well, sort of. Enjoy this:
Dear Red States:
We're ticked off at your Neanderthal attitudes and politics and we've decided we're leaving.
We in New York intend to form our own country and we're taking the other Blue States with us.
In case you aren't aware that includes California, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois and the rest of the Northeast.
We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation and especially to the people of the new country of The Enlightened States of America (E.S.A).
To sum up briefly:
You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states.
We get stem cell research and the best beaches.
We get Andrew Cuomo and Elizabeth Warren. You get Bobby Jindal and Todd Akin.
We get the Statue of Liberty. You get OpryLand.
We get Intel and Microsoft. You get WorldCom.
We get Harvard. You get Ole' Miss.
We get 85 percent of America's venture capital and entrepreneurs.
You get Alabama.
We get two-thirds of the tax revenue. You get to make the red states pay their fair share.
Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than the Christian Coalition's, we get a bunch of happy families. You get a bunch of single moms.
With the Blue States in hand we will have firm control of 80% of the country's fresh water, more than 90% of the pineapple and lettuce, 92% of the nation's fresh fruit, 95% of America's quality wines (you can serve French wines at state dinners) 90% of all cheese, 90 percent of the high tech industry, most of the US low sulfur coal, all living redwoods, sequoias and condors, all the Ivy and Seven Sister schools plus Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Cal Tech and MIT.
With the Red States you will have to cope with 88% of all obese Americans and their projected health care costs, 92% of all US mosquitoes, nearly 100% of the tornadoes, 90% of the hurricanes, 99% of all Southern Baptists, virtually 100% of all televangelists, Rush Limbaugh, Bob Jones University, Clemson and the University of Georgia.
We get Hollywood and Yosemite, thank you.
38% of those in the Red states believe Jonah was actually swallowed by a whale, 62% believe life is sacred unless we're discussing the death penalty or gun laws, 44% say that evolution is only a theory, 53% that Saddam was involved in 9/11 and 61% of you crazy bastards believe you are people with higher morals then we lefties.
We're taking the good weed too. You can have that crap they grow in Mexico.
Sincerely,
Citizen of the Enlightened States of America,
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#154455 Nov 14, 2012
BlackHeart wrote:
<quoted text>
200K a year in San Francisco? Hell, that's almost enough to pay rent on a two bedroom apartment there. You'd have to get another job, if you want to eat, that is.
Make that 3 jobs.

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