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Nov 13, 2012
 
bad bob wrote:
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Ah yes, more snappy catch phrases to go with Romneycare. "Etch-A-Sketch", "Romnesia", etc. I mean, if the left spent as much time working on actual issues instead of these gems, all of us might be better off.
Romney didn't "just wanna be the President", Rick. Who in their right mind would wanna take on the world's most demanding job both physically & mentally, just for the hee hoos.
Romney & Ryan both laid out their visions for the US. In case you may have missed it, it was the vision that was the complete OPPOSITE of Obamas. Ok so, Romney waffled. All politicians do that, don't they? But WHY did he waffle? Was it to stay abreast of the ever-changing dynamics in the field, or was it for the sole purpose of casting the net for the most voters?
Romney was certainly an UNKNOWN as you say. But so was Obama 4 years ago. He was not only an unknown, but an inexperienced unknown at best. He was also the anti-Bush vote, and probably the one and ONLY reason he made to the WH in the first place. But 4 years ago, we gave him a chance anyway. Huge mistake then, GINORMOUS blunder now.
I keep hearing about this "vision", but oddly enough no one seems to be able to elaborate on it's particulars. That is the point. It's not your fault in the least, seriously. Romney tried to skate through an election without putting his views on the line. Who knows why - maybe it worked for him at the state level. But as it happens, "Not-Obama" was just not quite a convincing enough reason for about 62,300,000 voters. We believe this President has done a competent job under historically tough conditions. I understand about 58 million disagree. Viva la democracy!

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Nov 13, 2012
 
Chris Clearwater wrote:
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More crap from the left. I wasn't so shocked. Sad yes, shocked not so much. I lived in a town that years back re-elected Marion Barry after going to the fed pen for doing crack. Don't spend much time in any big U.S. city do you Hip? And the biggest U.S. cities control it as we just saw in this election.
You have a point there Chris. Hip is not exactly metropolitan.

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Well it will certainly be fair if your chain gets yanked a time or two when the Republicans in Congress try screwing us again. And to remind you of when Obama does something right.......Like insisting on increasing taxes at the top.
Half the US population has CHARGED the Republicans in Congress not to
fold when the majority party overloads bills with trailers, stipulations, concessions and PORK! You call it screwing and obstructing. Tea Baggers and the right half of the US call it retaining their JOBS!

On the <rare> forseen occasion that Obama "does something right", it will hardly be necessary to "remind" anyone in here. I'm sure the king's loyal subjects will glady blare out his positive achievements, preceeded by the usual 30 minute baroque renaissance trumpet fanfare.

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lol-
So?
Contrary to popular belief, the masses can be wrong.
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I've already told you many of the reasons he won. Add to those the Chicago style thug campaign he launched on a decent man unaccustomed to dirty fighting and voila, you win.
I view Obama's victory the way I view an *A* a student might get on a test which he cheated to get.
He's not an A student and he's not a nice kid.
You're welcome to any narrative that helps you cope. Oddly enough your "reasons" don't jibe so well with all the reasons you gloated about in your "win" pre-election. Imagine that.....

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Nov 13, 2012
 
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>Uh, did ya happen to read the quasi-clinical analysis to which it replied?
Irrelevant (IMO).

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bad bob wrote:
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With Wilson opting off the thread for now, it was only a matter of time b4 the predictable "sour grapes" made it's return appearance.
But "dim-witted" and "weak self image" seems to be a bit judgemental.
I agree. Further, it was much more likely your over-confidence and strong self-image that allowed you to put so much trust in your intelligence that you were tricked into believing you were correct. Even to the point of failing to give it proper analysis based on the available evidence.

Well, back to reality with you.

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lisw wrote:
<quoted text>You have a point there Chris. Hip is not exactly metropolitan.
;) It's so cute when you circle up and stroke each other for comfort....
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Nov 13, 2012
 
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Speaaking of meltdowns, what you told us was coming has happened. A woman in Arizona ran over her husband because she was upset Obama won (thought her family would now suffer) so she ran him down because he did not vote. Of course his vote was immaterial as Romney did carry Arizona (one of a few states).
But she was right, now her family will suffer as she is in jail and her husband is in the hospital.
How many more Republicans will go this route Chris?
A few states? What does the sky look like in your world okb? You know, nevermind. As Hip just said whatever you need to think to make it. Lol. Keep posting your hate for your fellow Americans. I still pity you.
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#154366
Nov 13, 2012
 
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>;) It's so cute when you circle up and stroke each other for comfort....
Ahh, still have nothing but disdain we see. Carry on Hip. I pity you as well. It must suck for you to live in this nation with the little people.

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Nov 13, 2012
 
okb2 wrote:
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But I do find it amusing that you bust me while proliferating grammer errors yourself such as unnecessary punctuation, unnecessary words and run-on sentences among other things.
I told y'all a few months ago I was helplessly ANAL, not perfect.
But ANY opportunity I have to bust yer nuts, is a good day. It's just another price you forfeit for going over the 40K post limit.

With your proofreading & gramm[a]r skills professor Plumbtree, you'll excuse me if I breeze over your criticism regarding "unnecessary punctuation". And your opinion on the rest is purely subjective.

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Half the US population has CHARGED the Republicans in Congress not to
fold when the majority party overloads bills with trailers, stipulations, concessions and PORK! You call it screwing and obstructing. Tea Baggers and the right half of the US call it retaining their JOBS!
Then why did so many Tea Party freshmen get their pink slips? You need to tweak your story to account for that.

I think you're interpreting the results wrong, is what I think. America is tired of extremism leading to gridlock, plain and simple. That's not my interpretation, that's the result of extensive polling across all party lines, as well as election results. What really happened? Pretty much the same makeup as before. Think of it - billions spent by outside groups to influence the election, and the breakdown ends up pretty much the same, with a major exception. Those perceived as extremist/ obstructionist were shown the door. This is pure numbers, bob. Show me where I'm wrong. No matter what spin the opposition threw, fueled by billions spent in the process, America just wasn't buying the "socialist" doom and gloom this time around.

Mitch McConnell set two top goals for the 2012 election: a Republican takeover of the Senate and the defeat of President Obama. He achieved neither, and in fact lost two seats. He himself isn't up for re-election until '14. It will be interesting to watch his manner over the next 2 years, to see what lesson he perceives from these election results.

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Lyndi wrote:
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lol-
So?
Contrary to popular belief, the masses can be wrong.
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I've already told you many of the reasons he won. Add to those the Chicago style thug campaign he launched on a decent man unaccustomed to dirty fighting and voila, you win.
I view Obama's victory the way I view an *A* a student might get on a test which he cheated to get.
He's not an A student and he's not a nice kid.
No, what you gave us was your OPINIONS concerning his win. You offer very little to nothing to substantiate your OPINIONS, but no doubt you believe them even if you lack the reasoning to convince others.

Obama need score no higher that a 50 on a 100 point test to best the Republican policies offered for the election.

Carter was a "nice" kid, you want him back?
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#154370
Nov 13, 2012
 
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>;) It's so cute when you circle up and stroke each other for comfort....
No cuter than watching you, Larry and Curly gloat over a president who got relected on one of the all time worst records in the history of the United States.

Nice job, Moe.

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HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>I keep hearing about this "vision", but oddly enough no one seems to be able to elaborate on it's particulars. That is the point. It's not your fault in the least, seriously. Romney tried to skate through an election without putting his views on the line. Who knows why - maybe it worked for him at the state level. But as it happens, "Not-Obama" was just not quite a convincing enough reason for about 62,300,000 voters. We believe this President has done a competent job under historically tough conditions. I understand about 58 million disagree. Viva la democracy!
Competent??

Well just off the top of me skull we have in Obama I, a grossly expensive UHC law that few wanted, but forced on us anyway. We have a nuclear Iran threat pending. We have an unresolved Fast & Furious scandal, and the Benghazi tragedy unexplained. We have the top CIA chief caught with his pants down, PRIOR to the election, but undisclosed until AFTER the election.

Laurel & Hardy were more competent.

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HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>Then why did so many Tea Party freshmen get their pink slips? You need to tweak your story to account for that.
I think you're interpreting the results wrong, is what I think. America is tired of extremism leading to gridlock, plain and simple. That's not my interpretation, that's the result of extensive polling across all party lines, as well as election results. What really happened? Pretty much the same makeup as before. Think of it - billions spent by outside groups to influence the election, and the breakdown ends up pretty much the same, with a major exception. Those perceived as extremist/ obstructionist were shown the door. This is pure numbers, bob. Show me where I'm wrong. No matter what spin the opposition threw, fueled by billions spent in the process, America just wasn't buying the "socialist" doom and gloom this time around.
Mitch McConnell set two top goals for the 2012 election: a Republican takeover of the Senate and the defeat of President Obama. He achieved neither, and in fact lost two seats. He himself isn't up for re-election until '14. It will be interesting to watch his manner over the next 2 years, to see what lesson he perceives from these election results.
You know very well that I'm not deeply immersed in Capitol Hill seat numbers. But I was referring to the movement, not the
congressional reps. But I do think possibly McConnell is aging to the point that I doubt if he much cares whether he's reelected or not, over principles.

In less than 2 years, I believe this Prez will either screw up on an enormous scale, or have a series of screw ups of a lesser degree.
Whichever happens, I think it'll be enough for at least a repeat of the 2010 midterms, but much more of a Republican edge this time. And that'll obviously be to reduce Barry to a lame duck, until he can finally be sent packing.

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Nov 13, 2012
 
Chris Clearwater wrote:
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High five on this. A local station played a bit of obama on one of his many Tampa trips and thats all it was. Romnesia indeed. You can bet in the near future we will be treated to more bashing the rich and anyone else on the right while o still has no clue what leadership is. This was of note today as business may not wait to find out.
Marc Faber: Prepare for a Massive Market Meltdown
http://www.cnbc.com/id/49802535
Bashing of the rich?

http://patrioticmillionaires.org/

How about millionaires "bashing" themselves?

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Chris Clearwater wrote:
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High five on this. A local station played a bit of obama on one of his many Tampa trips and thats all it was. Romnesia indeed. You can bet in the near future we will be treated to more bashing the rich and anyone else on the right while o still has no clue what leadership is. This was of note today as business may not wait to find out.
Marc Faber: Prepare for a Massive Market Meltdown
http://www.cnbc.com/id/49802535
I will say predictions are all over the place. Has to dom ore with the Repubicans and if they are willing to accept a tax increase for those at the top.

Really makes things interesting since about half the top supported and voted for Obama and now we have those Patriotic Millionaires begging Congress to raise their taxes.

What is more important to the Republicans? The people's will and the fiscal health of the nation? Or a promise made to Grover?

I am betting the promise is, at least for a while. Long enough to be remembered in 2014.

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HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>;) It's so cute when you circle up and stroke each other for comfort....
I don't need comfort Hip, nothing will change much for me and i still bask in the glory of what has been accomplished in America. And in 4 years well we'll see. But let's be frank. You aren't exactly a big city guy though you like to portray yourself as worldly, I just don't see you that way. It's not a slam just a comment. I know you like to picture us wringing our hands and dabbing our eyes but it ain't happening. I am looking forward to another president already and I just hope that some things will have changed.
Let me ask you something. I know you feel proud that we have a black president. So am I. But are you proud that minority candidates and others who are of a conservative bent and don't please the Mas... scuse me the leadership, are metaphorically strung up on a regular basis? think of it. There is something really wrong here, that Biden's and Reid's racist comments are abided but everyone who doesn't like Obama is a racist. Isn't there something wrong with the idea that the democratic party is supposedly for women, but not all women, women of the conservative bent are called the C word. C'mon, say what you like but at least be honest.
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Nov 13, 2012
 
okb2 wrote:
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Bashing of the rich?
http://patrioticmillionaires.org/
How about millionaires "bashing" themselves?
It took me a minute but your link is brought to us by The Agenda Project:
"Erica Payne is the author of The Practical Progressive: How to Build a 21st Century Political Movement, which Jonathan Alter of Newsweek called a blueprint for a progressive conspiracy to help save the country.

No thank-you.

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bad bob wrote:
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Half the US population has CHARGED the Republicans in Congress not to
fold when the majority party overloads bills with trailers, stipulations, concessions and PORK! You call it screwing and obstructing. Tea Baggers and the right half of the US call it retaining their JOBS!
On the <rare> forseen occasion that Obama "does something right", it will hardly be necessary to "remind" anyone in here. I'm sure the king's loyal subjects will glady blare out his positive achievements, preceeded by the usual 30 minute baroque renaissance trumpet fanfare.
Nah, less than half the populaton. And even worse, with all the odds stacked in your favor you could not even take 3 - 4 seatd in the Senate.

10 Republican seats up for election.
23 Democrat seats up for election.
10 vacant seats up, 3 had been Republican, 10 had been Democrat.

And what did the Republicans do? They lost a seat.

Do you see the irony of all those on the right laughin and rejoicing for November 7 to come around so the Democrats would know they lost. And then all the whining and crying would begin?

Well sure enough, it began. Just not in the intended way.

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