Bush is a hero
Chris Clearwater

Safety Harbor, FL

#154407 Nov 13, 2012
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>Please elaborate for us Romney's vision. That would be more than he shared through two years of running for the office. Any aspect we could mention could be countermanded by another speech he'd give in another room, sometimes in the same day. He had no vision except to be President. His VP pick had more courage in stating his views than he. I expect we'll hear Ryan's name again.
D'ya think that Etch-A-Sketch character >might< have gone into a few people's decision? Obama is a known, and at best is a centrist. Romney remains an unknown.
Centrist. Yep, thats obama. Laughing at you. I bet you do think that Hip. I wonder if we will get a new sec of energy? Chu had been good for laughs too. But darn if people are still on the roads. All obama has to do is get the world to stop trading oil in the USD and bam, more winning for the left.

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#154408 Nov 13, 2012
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
Wipe your chin, okb. It's not polite to drool over other peoples money. We get you want to stick it to the wealthy.
Such as those "millionaires" making $200,000/year in San Francisco.

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#154409 Nov 13, 2012
BobinTX wrote:
<quoted text>
That's what I sent my Senator and Congressman to do... hold the line on taxes, and cut spending instead. If they vote to raise taxes on the "makers", I'd consider that screwing us, and the USA.
obama has absolutely no clue as to what it takes to create jobs, as his past four years has shown... and it's for sure that penalizing those that are creating jobs won't do it.
Meeting with the big union's leaders won't do it, nor will meeting with big business... if many of them need to create new jobs, they do it overseas.
obama needs to meet with SMALL business owners, not unions and big businesses, they're the ones that create most of the jobs IN THE USA... but that group isn't getting a meeting with barry.
It's going to be a long four years for America.
Especially if Congress keeps doing things like this.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-arensmeyer...

“The future begins”

Since: Jul 07

every moment

#154410 Nov 13, 2012
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
No cuter than watching you, Larry and Curly gloat over a president who got relected on one of the all time worst records in the history of the United States.
Nice job, Moe.
Thanks, Shemp. Hey, you know what's really cute? People all upset at us because they couldn't come up with one viable candidate to beat a President with allegedly the all-time worst records in the history of the United States. Ain't dat da shitz?

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#154411 Nov 13, 2012
okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>
The Republican message lost big time across the whole spectrum of Republicanism. They last in the House, Senate and the Presidency. TEA Party candidates lost and establishment Republicans lost. They just plain lost.
All House seats were up for election on November 6th, when did winning 55% of those House seats become a loss?

Your math skills are equal to your reading comprehension skills... both suck!

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#154413 Nov 13, 2012
okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>You should stop and think about which way you want to play this. Either Obama is incompetent and the Republicans lost because they are even more incompetent OR Obama is not incompetent and the Republicans are marginally so.
Republicans obviously did not pick a candidate that was conservative enough. With obama's sorry pResidency, never in a million years would I have expected so many to simply stay home... even if Romney wasn't their "perfect" candidate. For Romney not to even get as many votes as McCain did, nobody on the right saw that coming.
Chris Clearwater

Safety Harbor, FL

#154414 Nov 13, 2012
BobinTX wrote:
<quoted text>
All House seats were up for election on November 6th, when did winning 55% of those House seats become a loss?
Your math skills are equal to your reading comprehension skills... both suck!
Lol.

“The future begins”

Since: Jul 07

every moment

#154415 Nov 13, 2012
bad bob wrote:
<quoted text>
You know very well that I'm not deeply immersed in Capitol Hill seat numbers. But I was referring to the movement, not the
congressional reps.
Well, in our system, without the congressional rep, it ain't a movement, it's a constipation;) what ain't going nowhere.
bad bob wrote:
<quoted text>But I do think possibly McConnell is aging to the point that I doubt if he much cares whether he's reelected or not, over principles.
In less than 2 years, I believe this Prez will either screw up on an enormous scale, or have a series of screw ups of a lesser degree.
Whichever happens, I think it'll be enough for at least a repeat of the 2010 midterms, but much more of a Republican edge this time. And that'll obviously be to reduce Barry to a lame duck, until he can finally be sent packing.
Well, your pre-election predictions didn't lose me any money, but that might be more about how I arranged my wagers. But I was thinking. It'd sure be nice to hear people talking about working within our tried and true system to move the nation forward rather than m-o-o-ore hyper-ventilating focus on naming the President's moles. I got a strong impression that that was big part of last Tuesday's Memo from the Nation (ka "Da Boss"), saying, "There, now, we fired the rabble-rousers. Now quit the sh*t and git to work."

You guys need to decide if you want the party just to make your faction feel good, or if you want back in the game. I'm telling ya, people are sick of the dirt. Do a quick study on how backlashes work. You're due...
DSHiggins1

New Kensington, PA

#154416 Nov 13, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
First of all, I live in the L.A. area, not San Francisco.
Nor do I appreciate the generalization. It's like Romney's, about the 47 percenters.
And it's remarkable that you put down somebody for making a good living through dedication to hard work.
As for the divorces, my experience is that it's the parties, especially the ones with lots of dough, who drag it out endlessly and for no reason other than to make sure the other spouse suffers, while the attorneys attempt to reach closure. Oh yeah, it's a windfall, but hey, if the husband is willing to spend millions (yes, I have had that) for a lawyer so that the wife gets nothing....
Anyway, yes, I do well, but nevertheless I'm a liberal and proud of it.
What precisely is it about liberalism that makes you proud to be one?

Since: Nov 09

USA

#154417 Nov 13, 2012
KarlVIII wrote:
Sean Hannity on Fox last night. Was complaining about the ugly smear tactics the Obama used to tear down this "good man" Mitt Romney. This from the hypocrite that has called President Obama a socialist, a Marxist, a communist a fascist a foreigner a racist. They have compared him to Stalin and Hitler. They really can't see how hypocritical that is and how much it turns American voters off to the Republican party. if you are going to do that and then complain that they called your guy a "vulture capitalist" - that just shows you as completely out of touch with reality. And those tactics hurt the cause of the GOP more than they help it. They push more voters away than they pull in. That is why the GOP lost among "cosmopolitan conservatives." According to exit polls, more young, urban, educated people who identify as moderates and conservatives voted for Obama than Romney.
It's always funny when liberals spend so much time telling us how much what we say is hurting our cause, when in fact, it's their feelings that's being hurt by the truth!:)
Chris Clearwater

Safety Harbor, FL

#154418 Nov 13, 2012
Ds Higgins1 wrote:
<quoted text>
It's always funny when liberals spend so much time telling us how much what we say is hurting our cause, when in fact, it's their feelings that's being hurt by the truth!:)
Hey DS. Good to see you again. Man Tampa is front and center on Petraeus. This is as old as King David and Bathsheba. Praying for his wife. Praying for our nation.

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#154419 Nov 13, 2012
okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe one of the following two scenarios will play out.
1. The Republicans come to their senses and work with the President to solve our problems and good things and great accomplishments are made. The economy moves forward faster than most thought possible. As a reward the American people keep things largely the same in 2014 with a split Congress and America wins.
2. The Republicans remain obstructionist and America suffers. In 2014 the American people continue trying to vote commonsense into the Republican Party and they lose the House and more Senate seats. Ideally, the Republicans retain 40 seats in the Senate to keep the Dems from getting too stupid. After this election, the Republicans decide the American people want progress instead of obstructionism.
Do you think Harry Reid and the Senate Democrats have enough people to submit a budget this year? As everyone knows, creating and maintaining a budget is always the first step when you're trying to get your finances in order.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#154420 Nov 13, 2012
DSHiggins1 wrote:
<quoted text>
What precisely is it about liberalism that makes you proud to be one?
I won't even try to explain it to you, because you wouldn't understand.

Fortunately, you're just one more in the out-of-touch right-wing minority in our country.

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#154421 Nov 13, 2012
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks, Shemp. Hey, you know what's really cute? People all upset at us because they couldn't come up with one viable candidate to beat a President with allegedly the all-time worst records in the history of the United States. Ain't dat da shitz?
Again NO![We]'re upset with the Republican Party that they didn't front a viable candidate.

[We]'re upset with YOU because YOU chose Obama AGAIN, instead of a monkey, and knowing Obama's 4 year track record.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#154422 Nov 13, 2012
Ds Higgins1 wrote:
<quoted text>
It's always funny when liberals spend so much time telling us how much what we say is hurting our cause, when in fact, it's their feelings that's being hurt by the truth!:)
Did you miss the election?

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#154423 Nov 13, 2012
DSHiggins1 wrote:
<quoted text>
What precisely is it about liberalism that makes you proud to be one?
" “If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people-their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights and their civil liberties-someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal", then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal.”-John Fitzgerald Kennedy.

Obama is no Kennedy, who would have viewed both the Patriot Act and the NDAA as anathema and abhorrent. JMO

“The future begins”

Since: Jul 07

every moment

#154424 Nov 13, 2012
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>I don't need comfort Hip, nothing will change much for me and i still bask in the glory of what has been accomplished in America. And in 4 years well we'll see. But let's be frank. You aren't exactly a big city guy though you like to portray yourself as worldly, I just don't see you that way. It's not a slam just a comment.
Boy, which way to go first?

Worldly? I sure don't recall "portray"ing myself as worldly. If I've "portray"ed myself in any way it's been as a working class family man from a long line of working-class families. But worldly? Now that's fun-ny.

As for the "big city" - first, I have no idea what's supposed to be gleaned about some difference whether one lives in a city in America or in the country, in America. But apparently you "city folk" see something superior about living in a city. >shrug<

But what's funny is your broad assumptions about people based in your own self-penned script after "meeting" people in an anonymous social forum. I think this has very often lead you to misconceptions. Then when somebody doesn't adhere to your script, you get confused and huffy. Not a slam just a comment.

Case in point - I was born and raised in what was then the 2nd-largest city in IL. Ours was a working-class neighborhood. We played, fought, and went to school with diverse people. We even reached out to a few white folks, just to show how progressive we were. I've lived from the projects to the suburbs. For some in here, minorities are some monolithic group referred to as "the ones I know". For others of us, minorities are among our family, friends, and neighbors. Even after moving out of town, we've never been more than an hour away. We still have our family and friends there, and a good portion of our business. We go to Chicago as often as we can too, to see old friends, like Bill Ayers and such.

So, yeah, I've lived in the city, the burbs, and now my address happens to be rural. See what I mean about assumptions?
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>I know you like to picture us wringing our hands and dabbing our eyes but it ain't happening. I am looking forward to another president already and I just hope that some things will have changed.
Let me ask you something. I know you feel proud that we have a black president. So am I.
Well, here again, I think you're misapprehending my thoughts. Yes, you recall me being proud of the fact that this nation jumped that hurdle. That was election night '08. Many agreed, from both sides of the aisle. Beyond that night, you won't find a post of mine that references his heritage for it's own sake. The election of a black president was an historical milestone, while the President is just a man, who happens to be black. As a friend says, "It ain't no thang."
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>But are you proud that minority candidates and others who are of a conservative bent and don't please the Mas... scuse me the leadership, are metaphorically strung up on a regular basis? think of it.
This might be valid if it weren't for the many minority elected officials of conservative bent. Kinda blows the air right outta the tires.
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>There is something really wrong here, that Biden's and Reid's racist comments are abided but everyone who doesn't like Obama is a racist. Isn't there something wrong with the idea that the democratic party is supposedly for women, but not all women, women of the conservative bent are called the C word. C'mon, say what you like but at least be honest.
I have no idea what you're talking about, but I'm sure you've found something. I believe you seine the ether for the most negative isolated instances you can find, then stand in front of your window shaking your fist and quailing, "See? What did I tell ya? They're all just like that!"

If we set out to confirm a pre-conception, we're sure to find it, by hook or by crook.

“The future begins”

Since: Jul 07

every moment

#154425 Nov 13, 2012
bad bob wrote:
<quoted text>
Again NO![We]'re upset with the Republican Party that they didn't front a viable candidate.
[We]'re upset with YOU because YOU chose Obama AGAIN, instead of a monkey, and knowing Obama's 4 year track record.
Now I'm really confused. So, you're saying Romney's a monkey, and you're upset with us for not voting for the monkey?!?

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#154426 Nov 13, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I won't even try to explain it to you, because you wouldn't understand.
Fortunately, you're just one more in the out-of-touch right-wing minority in our country.
That's just pathetic. You really have some superiority complex don't you? It's why you are a liberal. You're convinced you are a do-gooder. Well you're not, you are a man with a guilty conscience.

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#154427 Nov 13, 2012
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>
Boy, which way to go first?
Worldly? I sure don't recall "portray"ing myself as worldly. If I've "portray"ed myself in any way it's been as a working class family man from a long line of working-class families. But worldly? Now that's fun-ny.
As for the "big city" - first, I have no idea what's supposed to be gleaned about some difference whether one lives in a city in America or in the country, in America. But apparently you "city folk" see something superior about living in a city. >shrug<
But what's funny is your broad assumptions about people based in your own self-penned script after "meeting" people in an anonymous social forum. I think this has very often lead you to misconceptions. Then when somebody doesn't adhere to your script, you get confused and huffy. Not a slam just a comment.
Case in point - I was born and raised in what was then the 2nd-largest city in IL. Ours was a working-class neighborhood. We played, fought, and went to school with diverse people. We even reached out to a few white folks, just to show how progressive we were. I've lived from the projects to the suburbs. For some in here, minorities are some monolithic group referred to as "the ones I know". For others of us, minorities are among our family, friends, and neighbors. Even after moving out of town, we've never been more than an hour away. We still have our family and friends there, and a good portion of our business. We go to Chicago as often as we can too, to see old friends, like Bill Ayers and such.
So, yeah, I've lived in the city, the burbs, and now my address happens to be rural. See what I mean about assumptions?
<quoted text>
Well, here again, I think you're misapprehending my thoughts. Yes, you recall me being proud of the fact that this nation jumped that hurdle. That was election night '08. Many agreed, from both sides of the aisle. Beyond that night, you won't find a post of mine that references his heritage for it's own sake. The election of a black president was an historical milestone, while the President is just a man, who happens to be black. As a friend says, "It ain't no thang."
<quoted text>
This might be valid if it weren't for the many minority elected officials of conservative bent. Kinda blows the air right outta the tires.
<quoted text>I have no idea what you're talking about, but I'm sure you've found something. I believe you seine the ether for the most negative isolated instances you can find, then stand in front of your window shaking your fist and quailing, "See? What did I tell ya? They're all just like that!"
If we set out to confirm a pre-conception, we're sure to find it, by hook or by crook.
You're overly long response convinces me I'm right. You really have to talk yourself into it don't you, that somehow you and your liberal colleagues take the high road. If it werent so pitiful it'd be funny. I asked you to be honest. Why do you tolerate for instance Biden. he was on that ticket and you are obviously okay with all the racist things he's said.
I don't quail and I sure don't shake my fists. I'm just amazed at your hypocricy.

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