Bush is a hero

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#150715 Oct 6, 2012
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
You're exactly right and the part 2 to my post would have been he couldn't have done better because he was never right for the job in the first place. He had the wrong temperment, he had the wrong qualifications, he had the wrong world view, and he never intended to negotiate because he never intended to 'restore' America in the first place. His plan was to reinvent America and come hell or high water he was going to shove it down our throats. Time to cut this fish loose. When it's clear that the Constitution is only annoying piece of paper to the POTUS,and it's clear the basic foundation of America isn't what he envisions, it's time to GET HIM OUT.
A resounding AMEN. I agree, every last pea-pickin' word.

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#150716 Oct 6, 2012
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>okb can carry his own water just fine, but I'm going to comment here. Did you or did you not see that that post was a response to an unsolicited post from the one you claim wants to just be left alone? Could this be more silly....?!?
Talking to him talking about him, same dif. No it could not be more silly.

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#150717 Oct 6, 2012
Ds Higgins1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Heh heh heh....
Karl Marx, with each of yer comical posts, you only manage to caricature yerself, as a buffoonish cartoon figure.....
:-)
Personally, I think buffoonish cartoon figures have more dignity.

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#150718 Oct 6, 2012
karlVII wrote:
President Obama never destroyed his records
President Obama never hid his taxes
President Obama doesn't hide his money in Off-Shore tax havens
President Obama never hid in a foreign country to avoid War
Obama has been the most scrutinized President in History and he had to endure more hatred just because of his pigmentation than any White president would have ever dreamed of.
Obama has had to endure attacks about his birth place even after proving where he was born over and over again, Obama has had to endure being called a Muslim when a Muslim wouldn't be baptized in a Methodist Church. Obama has had to endure speculation from every angle and there are still racist bigots that believe people like Rush HATE FILLED Limbaugh. Electing President Obama really did show that White America is a very scared insecure race.
Yak yak yak, you gotta lot of nerve calling Rush "hate filled".
That's yer ONLY emotion, ya freakin' loser.
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#150719 Oct 6, 2012
Project for the New American Century (PNAC), letter to Bill Clinton, 1998

Sorrows of Empire, Chalmers Johnson, p228
keyword(s)

letter to Clinton, 1998

They called for the removal of Saddam Hussein's regime from power," and in a letter dated May 29 1998 to Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich and Senate majority leader Trent Lott, complaining that Clinton had not listened to them, they reiterated their recommendation that Saddam be overthrown. As they put the matter, "We should establish and maintain a strong US. military presence in the region, and be prepared to use that force to protect our vital interests in the [Persian] Gulf-and, if necessary, to help remove Saddam from power?'

These letters were signed by Donald Rumsfeld; William Kristol, editor of the right-wing Weekly Standard magazine and chairman of PNAC; Elliott Abrams, a convicted Iran-Contra conspirator who would be named in 2002 as director of Middle Eastern policy on the National Security Council; Paul Wolfowitz, who would become Rumsfeld's deputy at the Pentagon; John Bolton, who would become undersecretary of state for arms control and international security in the Bush fils administration; Richard Perle, who would become chairman of the Defense Science Board; William J. Bennett, President Reagan's education secretary; Richard Armitage, who would become Colin Powell's deputy at the State Department; Zalmay Khjad, a former Unocal consultant who would become Bush's "ambassador" to Afghanistan and later the chief liaison with the Kurds and anti-Saddam exiles in Iraq; and several other prominent American militarists. In addition to the signatories PNAC included Vice President Dick Cheney; I. Lewis Libby, Cheney's chief of staff; and Stephen Cambone, a Pentagon bureaucrat in both Bush administrations. They have made their ideas readily available in a report issued in September 2000 entitled Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategy, Forces, and Resources for a New Century and in a book edited by Robert Kagan and William Kristol, Present Daniers: Crisis and Opportunity in American Foreign and Defense Policy.

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

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#150720 Oct 6, 2012
okb2 wrote:
Given the Repubican House, why are any of these men even in the US? Why aren't they at GITMO?
Who is protecting the US? We know Obama the Muslim won't, so why don't the Repubicans? Do they no longer care about America?
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/06...
Why aren't they in Gitmo? You do realize that the Justice Department is part of the Executive Branch, and not Congress, don't you?

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#150721 Oct 6, 2012
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>okb can carry his own water just fine, but I'm going to comment here. Did you or did you not see that that post was a response to an unsolicited post from the one you claim wants to just be left alone? Could this be more silly....?!?
Not so fast, monsieur. Dave made it clear SEVERAL times, that he had NO interest in ANYthing VA had to say, and subsequently went to "ignore" mode.

But the master baiter refuses to honor DS's request, and has instead pestered him incessantly. And I believe you know perfectly well, there'e only so much raggin' one can put up with
until the pest needs to be sprayed again.

“The future begins”

Since: Jul 07

every moment

#150722 Oct 6, 2012
bad bob wrote:
<quoted text>
Not so fast, monsieur. Dave made it clear SEVERAL times, that he had NO interest in ANYthing VA had to say, and subsequently went to "ignore" mode.
But the master baiter refuses to honor DS's request, and has instead pestered him incessantly. And I believe you know perfectly well, there'e only so much raggin' one can put up with
until the pest needs to be sprayed again.
Au contraire, mon frere. You're saying that one guy can reply on something a second person writes to a third party, but the second person is to refrain from responding because.....wait, why again?

“The future begins”

Since: Jul 07

every moment

#150723 Oct 6, 2012
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>Talking to him talking about him, same dif. No it could not be more silly.
Hold on. Let me try and understand, because the rules seem to change by the hour, and I sure wouldn't want to break any of your rules.

Let's see - Higgins wrote >to him<. In that post that he wrote >to him< he inserted the obligatory ad personam that go for high political discourse around here, then closed with a comical, "...and I'm not talking to you."

So, in a nutshell.....if you write to me, it's bad form if I reply? Is that it?
UIdiotRacesMAkeW orldPeace

United States

#150724 Oct 6, 2012
David DeGraw
February 23, 2011
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The majority of prisoners are locked up for non-violent crimes, with tens of thousands in Supermax cells. In addition to the heinous torture programs that the US government has carried out in Abu Ghraib, Bagram and Gitmo, we have our own solitary confinement torture programs for Americans in Supermax Units throughout the country.
UIdiotRacesMAkeW orldPeace

United States

#150725 Oct 6, 2012
"I am not a dictator. I have only simplified democracy."
Adolf Hitler
UIdiotRacesMAkeW orldPeace

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#150726 Oct 6, 2012
e will overthrow Parliament in a legal way through legal means. Democracy will be overthrown with the tools of democracy."
Adolf Hitler
UIdiotRacesMAkeW orldPeace

United States

#150727 Oct 6, 2012
'Fascism is on the march today in America. Millionaires are marching to the tune. It will come in this country unless a strong defense is set up by all liberal and progressive forces... A clique of U.S. industrialists is hell-bent to bring a fascist state to supplant our democratic government, and is working closely with the fascist regime in Germany and Italy. Aboard ship a prominent executive of one of America's largest financial corporations told me point blank that if the progressive trend of the Roosevelt administration continued, he would be ready to take definite action to bring fascism to America."
former U.S. ambassador to Germany William Dodd in 1938
UIdiotRacesMAkeW orldPeace

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#150728 Oct 6, 2012
" The USA has been quick to voice its condemnation of human rights violations in some other countries and to stress, by contrast, the wealth of civil and political rights which it guarantees within its borders ... however, it has failed to deliver these rights to many of its people and there are signs that, unless urgent steps are taken, these rights will be further eroded . "

Amnesty International oh human Rights
UIdiotRacesMAkeW orldPeace

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#150729 Oct 6, 2012
"Americans are too broadly underinformed to digest nuggets of information that seem to contradict what they know of the world . Instead, news channels prefer to feed Americans a constant stream of simplified information, all of which fits what they already know. That way they don't have to devote more air time or newsprint space to explanations or further investigations. Politicians and the media have conspired to infantilize, to dumb down, the American public. At heart, politicians don't believe that Americans can handle complex truths, and the news media, especially television news, basically agrees."

BWHAAHHAHHHAHAHAa
Tom Fenton, former CBS foreign correspondent
UIdiotRacesMAkeW orldPeace

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#150730 Oct 6, 2012
"We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both."
Louis Brandeis, Supreme Court justice from 1916-1939

BWHHAHHAAAHAHAaaaa
UIdiotRacesMAkeW orldPeace

United States

#150731 Oct 6, 2012
" Among Latin American elites, a peasant asking for a higher wage or a priest helping organize a peasant cooperative is a communist. And someone going so far as to suggest land reform or a more equitable tax system is a communist fanatic. There is no word or act suggesting the desirability of elite generosity toward the poor, or the need for education, organization or material advance for the majority, that has not been branded communistic in Latin America in recent decades.... Since communism is the enemy and peasants trying to improve themselves, priests with the slightest humanistic proclivity, and naturally anyone seriously challenging the status quo, are communists, they are also, by definition, enemies."
Edward Herman, economist and media analyst
UIdiotRacesMAkeW orldPeace

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#150732 Oct 6, 2012
" In the United States today, the Declaration of Independence hangs on schoolroom walls, but foreign policy follows Machiavelli."
Howard Zinn, historian and author

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#150733 Oct 6, 2012
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>Au contraire, mon frere. You're saying that one guy can reply on something a second person writes to a third party, but the second person is to refrain from responding because.....wait, why again?
That's not what's going on. David has asked VA several times to ignore his (DS's) msgs.

VA refuses to comply.

Yes VA has also mentioned DS, while writing to another poster. Doing that AND replying to DS directly is BAITING. Only so much of that can be endured.
UIdiotRacesMAkeW orldPeace

United States

#150734 Oct 7, 2012
Mitt Romney's Federal Bailout; Bain Investigated for Tax Evasion

Mitt Romney may not "apologize" for his success in business, but more importantly, you'll also likely never hear him say "thanks" to the American people for the Federal bailout of Bain Capital.

The trouble began in 1984, when Bain & Company spun off Bain Capital to engage in leveraged buyouts and put Romney in charge of the new operation. To free up money to invest in the new business, founder Bill Bain and his partners cashed out much of their stock in the consulting firm – leaving it saddled with about $200 million in debt.(Romney, though not a founder, reportedly profited from the deal.) "People will tell you that Bill raped the place clean, was greedy, didn't know when to stop," a former Bain consultant later conceded. "Did they take too much out of the firm? You bet."

The FDIC documents make clear what happened next: "Soon after the founders sold their equity," analysts reported, "business began to drop off." First came scandal: In the late 1980s, a Bain consultant became a key figure in an illegal stock manipulation scheme in London. The firm's reputation took a hit, and it fired 10 percent of its consulting force. By the time the 1989 recession began, Bain & Company found itself going broke fast. Cash flows weren't enough to service the debt imposed by the founders, and the firm could barely make payroll. In a panic, Bill Bain tapped Romney, his longtime protégé, to take the reins.
...

In fact, Romney had a direct stake in the survival of Bain & Company: He had been working to build the Bain brand his entire career, and felt he had to save the firm at all costs. After all, Bain sold top-dollar strategic advice to big businesses about how to protect themselves from going bust. If Bain & Company went bankrupt, recalls the Romney deputy, "anyone associated with them would have looked clownish." Indeed, when a banker from Goldman Sachs urged Bain to consider bankruptcy as the obvious solution to the firm's woes, Romney's desperation began to show. He flatly refused to discuss it – and in the ensuing argument, one witness says, Romney almost ended up in a brawl when the Goldman banker advised him to "go f*ck yourself." For the sake of Romney's career and fortune, bankruptcy was simply not an option – no matter who got screwed in the process.

It's no wonder Romney wouldn't want to discuss the details of the bailout during a campaign for office. And then when it came to "negotiating" repayment of the bailout, Romney threatened use of a loophole:

In a letter dated March 23rd, 1993, Romney reassured creditors that his latest scheme would return Bain & Company to "long-term financial stability." That same month, Romney once again threatened to "pay out maximum bonus distributions" to top executives unless much of Bain's debt was erased.

In the end, the government surrendered. At the time, The Boston Globe cited bankers dismissing the bailout as "relatively routine" – but the federal documents reveal it was anything but. The FDIC agreed to accept nearly $5 million in cash to retire $15 million in Bain's debt – an immediate government bailout of $10 million. All told, the FDIC estimated it would recoup just $14 million of the $30 million that Romney's firm owed the government.

Sounds more like blackmail than a negotiation, doesn't it?

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