Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#150587 Oct 5, 2012
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>Do you consider yourself a freethinker?
Don't worry, this is farm country - the conservative view is well represented. I get the fresh skinny about communism every day with my morning coffee.
My 'hood is about 80% progressive, liberal.

A bedroom community in the L.A. area.
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#150588 Oct 5, 2012
Roberta G wrote:
<quoted text>
Well said. And something else too: in his arrogance and hubris, Obama just plain underestimated his opponent, and apparently so did his staff. Served 'em right.
Putting the election aside for minute Roberta and putting aside my wanting Romney to do well, that was still MY president up there for 90 minutes unable to defend himself, unable to explain himself and had a 4 year record that was so pathetic he hung his head because there was nothing else he could do. With the right questions and fact after fact after fact, my mother could have reduced to him to a puddle of mush.

Regardless of party affiliation I don't ever want to see my president look like that again. We hired him to do a job, he was taken to the cleaners and as nice as that is for Romney, that was MY country they were talking about.

Had I been an Obama supporter and additionally had an emotional investment in him and he gave that kind of dismal performance because it was all he had, I would have been enraged. So in my opinion, he didn't just let down the democratic party 2 nights ago. He let down the entire nation.
Lost In Transition

United States

#150589 Oct 5, 2012
bad bob wrote:
<quoted text>
Reportedly, most of the jobs were also part-time.
Median family annual income has dropped $5000 under this rookie's regime.
True that.
Inflation adjusted wages have fallen every year of this "recovery". And the policies in place of deficit spending and money printing guaranty they'll continue to fall, short of a complete collapse.
Lost In Transition

United States

#150590 Oct 5, 2012
Rudyard Kiplingesque wrote:
<quoted text>
How many of those 'new' jobs were seasonal 'picking' jobs?
Probably most of 'em.
Good question. The BLS puts out an "Adjusted Household Survey" which was created to track closer to the Non-Farm Payroll Survey. It ignores Agriculture payrolls, the self employed and family members that do not draw a salary. That number came in at +294,000 compared to the headline +873,000. That means 579,000 workers fell within the "adjusted" exemptions. How many of those were field hands is anybody's guess.

Since: Nov 09

USA

#150591 Oct 5, 2012
Lost In Transition wrote:
<quoted text>
I saw her go at it with a CNN anchor, that Erin whats-her-name, that used to be a financial newswoman. By half way through the debate, Cutter's number had dropped to 2 $trillion$, and her final say on the matter was "Well, we're sure it's at least 1 $trillion$". If Erin had stayed on her long enough, she'd of had her down to lunch money.
It's amazing how an imaginary number tends to melt into thin air, just like everything else that's fudged.

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#150592 Oct 5, 2012
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>Do you consider yourself a freethinker?
What d'ya 'spose the chances are we find posts where you've used words and phrases that we might find also in the current popular discourse? What are the chances that every other post on this page contain words that one can also find on a blog?
An attempt at a zinger, or......uh, what's your point? Did you see those other words carefully arranged around "their words" in common grammatical constructs known as "sentences"? They ain't there fer window-dressing, yaknow?
No doubt like yourself, I read mornings and evenings, and interact with a diversity of people throughout each day. Don't worry, this is farm country - the conservative view is well represented. I get the fresh skinny about communism every day with my morning coffee.
Lucky duck!

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#150593 Oct 5, 2012
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>You're right Rider it can make you kind of foggy brained.

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#150594 Oct 5, 2012
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
Putting the election aside for minute Roberta and putting aside my wanting Romney to do well, that was still MY president up there for 90 minutes unable to defend himself, unable to explain himself and had a 4 year record that was so pathetic he hung his head because there was nothing else he could do. With the right questions and fact after fact after fact, my mother could have reduced to him to a puddle of mush.
Regardless of party affiliation I don't ever want to see my president look like that again. We hired him to do a job, he was taken to the cleaners and as nice as that is for Romney, that was MY country they were talking about.
Had I been an Obama supporter and additionally had an emotional investment in him and he gave that kind of dismal performance because it was all he had, I would have been enraged. So in my opinion, he didn't just let down the democratic party 2 nights ago. He let down the entire nation.
It was incredibly sad but Idon't think we need to expect perfection. We had a president throw-up at a state dinner and this wasn't that much worse than that.

Since: Nov 09

USA

#150595 Oct 5, 2012
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>It's almost funny. When you like the poll numbers, they're great. When your boy slips, somebody's cheating. When unemployment was up, you're elated. When the numbers get better, somebody's cheating. When your candidate wins, the vote was honest. When your candidate loses, somebody's cheating.
You're the kids who kick over the board and stomp out of the room when you lose a checker.
You're the kid who trips over the bucket he was warned about, then gets mad at the people who warned him.....:)

Since: Nov 09

USA

#150596 Oct 5, 2012
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>BS. Obviously it's a salient point or you wouldn't continue to growl about it. A candidate's finances have been part of the application process for the lives of everyone here. What's different now? Could be we are uncomfortable with the reveal? I think so.
When you want to be President, everything about you outside the marital bedroom is our business. You want to crown a king, buy an island. The rest of us are hiring a Chief Executive.
Heh heh heh..... Now where did you learn those curiously defined rules about about how a president should be vetted?

If ya don't like Romney's success, or what he does with the proceeds thereof, yer free to vote for Obama. But yer constant bellyaching about HIS money doesn't prove anything,'crept that yer petty and jealous, just like Obama....

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#150597 Oct 5, 2012
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =EZiL1PMF3xAXX
Yep.

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#150598 Oct 5, 2012
bad bob wrote:
<quoted text>
Doesn't matter, Katya. Without a teleprompter, Barry will be wanderin' around the desert like a nomad, during the remaining 2 debates.
Only chance Soetero has, is to call in sick both times.
Obama might stand a chance, if he uses his lifelines.

Since: Nov 09

USA

#150599 Oct 5, 2012
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>It's the same rate (U3) that's been cited since Reagan. It's the same U3 you thought good enough for a banner. It's an index - apples to apples, for comparative purposes only. Obviously it sucks that the economy is sputtering along in spite of Congressional gridlock, but there it is.
Heh heh heh.... Funny how yer so intimately familiar with all the Obama-excuses...... "Congressional gridlock" should be worth at least 5 points, huh?

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#150600 Oct 5, 2012
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
I edited most of your post because like most of your commentary it had nothing of merit in it.
But here you go Karl. Take another look at this beauty which was your response to my telling you what Romney does with his money as long as it's legal is none of your business.
<quoted text>
1) There is NO exception.
2) It doesn't matter that "America has NEVER had a Presidential Candidate that made his billions and billions of dollars in America, claims to "Love America" but banks in the Cayman Islands, Bermuda and other secretive tax shelters. Un-American and Un-fit to Govern over this great country."
You show me the law which says he can't. You show me where it's written that his personal investment decisions are up for public scrutiny. It doesn't matter KARL that no candidate has EVER done it before.... it's being done now, his name is on every ballot in every state, he's running for POTUS, so I suggest you acquire some coping skills and get a grip.
Erm. Show me law which says he CAN squirrel assets away. Does this mean we need one which does, or should we continue to rely on the lack of precedent?
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you Shovelhead?
Are you?

“Take It To The Limit”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#150601 Oct 5, 2012
Been awhile since I've seen it like this. Gettin' kinda wild in here.
But, like ol' Red Skelton said,'It's gonna get a whole lot worse, before things go bad.'

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#150602 Oct 5, 2012
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
Putting the election aside for minute Roberta and putting aside my wanting Romney to do well, that was still MY president up there for 90 minutes unable to defend himself, unable to explain himself and had a 4 year record that was so pathetic he hung his head because there was nothing else he could do. With the right questions and fact after fact after fact, my mother could have reduced to him to a puddle of mush.

Regardless of party affiliation I don't ever want to see my president look like that again. We hired him to do a job, he was taken to the cleaners and as nice as that is for Romney, that was MY country they were talking about.

Had I been an Obama supporter and additionally had an emotional investment in him and he gave that kind of dismal performance because it was all he had, I would have been enraged. So in my opinion, he didn't just let down the democratic party 2 nights ago. He let down the entire nation.
I respect your feelings, Lyndi, and up to a point I even agree. I remember how ashamed I felt when Nixon resigned in disgrace, and that was 38 years ago :s

I would much rather have had in office right now a POTUS whom I respected. But there isn't. Obama has been letting down the entire nation for 3 1/2 years now. The difference now, two days after the debate, is that now a lot more people see, as you, I and others have said, the current Emperor is naked.

I don't ever want to see our president humiliated like this again, either, but in order for that to happen, we must first get rid of this one. Hopefully after this sorry critter goes, we'll have presidents who earn our respect.

“Take It To The Limit”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#150603 Oct 5, 2012
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>Erm. Show me law which says he CAN squirrel assets away. Does this mean we need one which does, or should we continue to rely on the lack of precedent?
<quoted text>
Are you?
"Billions and Billions,...' For a moment there, I thought we were being addressed by Carl Sagan.
mitt romney never made billions. he's a mormon, and made his money the way all mormons do, from ther misery of othersw. AThere just ain't 'Billions' in that game. He is worth some two hundred million, I've heard. And none of his chickenshit sons served in the military.

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#150604 Oct 5, 2012
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>It was incredibly sad but Idon't think we need to expect perfection. We had a president throw-up at a state dinner and this wasn't that much worse than that.
Sure it was. THIS guy made OTHER people want to throw up, too.

“The future begins”

Since: Jul 07

every moment

#150605 Oct 5, 2012
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
I'll tell you what I told Karl. SHOW me the law that says that. Show me where that's written and while you're at it show me Obama's college transcripts, show me his college application and show me who paid for his tuition.
Thanks.
next-
There we go - you keep on askin' for all that stuff, you know, because it has everything to do with, uh.....education policy, I guess? And I'll keep on wondering why a man that wants to dictate national policy hides his own cash offshore to avoid supporting his nation.

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#150606 Oct 5, 2012
lisw wrote:
http://www.deseretnews.com/art icle/765579772/Sex-selection-a bortions-at-the-center-of-Hous e-vote-new-Planned-Parenthood- videos.html?pg=all
Here's another for you Kathryn
And here's another for you, Lis.

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