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Heh heh heh....
Poor Obama.... It would be such a shame if he was to win, and inherit this bad economy, far far worse than the one he "inherited" in 2008....
Actually, I think it would be poetic justice. But since the nation would have to suffer under that justice at the same time, the price would be too high to pay.

COME ON, NOVEMBER 6TH!

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<quoted text>Well, the difference to me is, I'm not demonizing a "side". I am actively demonizing a particular group, an infamous group, that has already established a place in posterity as among if not atop the very most ineffectual and self-involved Congresses in American history. Do the math, by any measure you choose - this bunch is dismal.
Congress' approval ratings sink lower & lower each year. Is it your contention that this "group" is more responsible now, than at ANY other time?
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They have used the filibuster over >360 times< - more than any in history. Their fiscal brinksmanship resulted directly in a downgrade in the US credit rating. They have blocked more appointments than any in history. They have voted against their >own< initiatives and ideas. They have blocked any jobs bills. They have drug their feet over any positive legislation whatsoever and have proposed >none< as an alternative. Shall we continue?
Wow, this "group" is devious. In one of the most important elections of our lifetime, you think the chess games won't get heated? And during the next election cycle, you think it impossible for the other "group" to top this "group" in filibusters, blocked appt's, creative voting, and feet dragging?

I wonder how many bills passed by the Republican led House are stashed in Harry "the obstructionist" Reid's desk. Do you have a tally of bills passed by the Republican led House that Harry wouldn't even allow a vote on?
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It ain't a "side" - it's a particular gang of individuals who have boldly and brazenly declared that regaining the executive branch is a higher priority than stewarding the nation's legislative process. You yourself have criticized the President for doing anything besides jobs and economy, yet you have no criticism for them who have admitted that, for them, politics trumps nation. Sure, sure, they all "do it", in bits and pieces, if that makes you feel better. But here we ain't talking about burglars of the past, we've got them red-handed right there. Do we throw up our hands and say, "Ah, let 'em go, what's the use, they all do it?"
I can't blame you for not wanting to talk about the past. Cos this last paragraph reminds me of the Dems' fervor to chase GW Bush outta the WH. Only thing is, Congressional politicians have been putting politics over nation to the point of it becoming status quo, long ago.

Enter the teabaggers.

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karlVII wrote:
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These types of conspiracy theories only gain traction with conservatives. You won't hear about this BS in a week because liberals don't buy into this kind of crap. Conservatives on the other hand do.
Many of them think that the polls that show Obama way ahead are all fixed - including Fox "News", but the polls showing that Romney "won" the debate are legit, but the 7.8% unemployment rate was rigged. To them Obama was born in Kenya and is a radical Muslim, Saddam Hussein set up 9/11 and that Romney was responsible for killing Osama bin Laden. Liberals adjust their world outlook to match with new facts. Conservatives adjust their facts to fit with their world outlook.
KrapoXI, you sure went a long way way around just to prove you have NO idea what yer yapping about. Smooooooothe!

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With ONE HUGE exception....
America has NEVER had a Presidential Candidate that made his billions and billions of dollars in America, claims to "Love America" but banks in the Cayman Islands, Bermuda and other secretive tax shelters. Un-American and Un-fit to Govern over this great country.
Look Marx, even if you had any evidence to support yer bizarre claims, what's illegal about investing overseas?

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<quoted text>Then why are you so ditsy?
9000' altitude brain cavity aneurism. Much worse at that height.
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What was the household survey in July and August? If you are self-employed (unemployed and unemployment ran out) you are employed even if you did not earn a dime. Why use a yearly average instead of comparisons with recent months?
Just off the top of my head I suspect a lot of peoples unemployment is running out. Same thing happened under bush when all the Republicans were bragging about unemployment.
Got news for you, the unemployment figure is just as valid now as then.
I used the average because that's what the current BLS report gave me. If you want a particular month other than September, I suggest a web-searcher called Google. I'll give you this from the September report, though:

"Total employment rose by 873,000 in September, following 3 months of little change".

3 months of little change. I'm pretty sure July and August would fall within that range.

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okb2 wrote:
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You are wrong and you know you are wrong just as you know you would use it in an argument if you found Obama invested in bin Laden Construction out of Saudi Arabia.

Further, while it may not be MY business where your money is parked, you are not the leader of the MY country and as far as I know you have no plans to be.

Since the leader of MY country is MY employee, I do have a right to know certain things......unless you want to admit that all those wanting to see the college records of Obama are idiots. You do that, and I might agree with you.

On the other hand, I am much more interested in his tax rate since he is planning changes to the tax code.
Sorry, Bos, but you ARE the one who is wrong.

Your examples don't wash. In the first one, I believe it is illegal for any American to invest money in an overseas business which has known terrorist ties. Any business belonging to bin Laden would certainly have terrorist ties.

And since when did it become the right of American employers to know where their employees might have investments? An employer does have the right to know if an employee is breaking the law, or I suppose in some cases if the employee is breaking the company's policy. But it ends there. If Romney has assets in every other nation on earth, it's nobody's business but his, provided he hasn't broken any laws.(Granted, under this example, he wouldn't look good to the American public, but that's another post).

You'll have to do better than that, but I'm not sure you can.
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karlVII wrote:
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Why the "edit" of my words?
Affriad the truth might hurt?
Typical right wing radical tactic
I edited most of your post because like most of your commentary it had nothing of merit in it.

But here you go Karl. Take another look at this beauty which was your response to my telling you what Romney does with his money as long as it's legal is none of your business.
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With ONE HUGE exception....
America has NEVER had a Presidential Candidate that made his billions and billions of dollars in America, claims to "Love America" but banks in the Cayman Islands, Bermuda and other secretive tax shelters. Un-American and Un-fit to Govern over this great country.
1) There is NO exception.
2) It doesn't matter that "America has NEVER had a Presidential Candidate that made his billions and billions of dollars in America, claims to "Love America" but banks in the Cayman Islands, Bermuda and other secretive tax shelters. Un-American and Un-fit to Govern over this great country."

You show me the law which says he can't. You show me where it's written that his personal investment decisions are up for public scrutiny. It doesn't matter KARL that no candidate has EVER done it before.... it's being done now, his name is on every ballot in every state, he running for POTUS, so I suggest you acquire some coping skills and get a grip.

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I used the average because that's what the current BLS report gave me. If you want a particular month other than September, I suggest a web-searcher called Google. I'll give you this from the September report, though:
"Total employment rose by 873,000 in September, following 3 months of little change".
3 months of little change. I'm pretty sure July and August would fall within that range.
How many of those 'new' jobs were seasonal 'picking' jobs?
Probably most of 'em.

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Hey Hip. In an earlier post, you said 'everything outside the bedroom is our business.'(PP) But aren't you the one that also said 'obama's school records are his business, and his alone.'?

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lisw wrote:
<quoted text>For a "freethinker" who is not influenced by the "blogs" and the "pundits" you sure use alot of their words.
Do you consider yourself a freethinker?
What d'ya 'spose the chances are we find posts where you've used words and phrases that we might find also in the current popular discourse? What are the chances that every other post on this page contain words that one can also find on a blog?

An attempt at a zinger, or......uh, what's your point? Did you see those other words carefully arranged around "their words" in common grammatical constructs known as "sentences"? They ain't there fer window-dressing, yaknow?

No doubt like yourself, I read mornings and evenings, and interact with a diversity of people throughout each day. Don't worry, this is farm country - the conservative view is well represented. I get the fresh skinny about communism every day with my morning coffee.
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HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>BS. Obviously it's a salient point or you wouldn't continue to growl about it. A candidate's finances have been part of the application process for the lives of everyone here. What's different now? Could be we are uncomfortable with the reveal? I think so.
When you want to be President, everything about you outside the marital bedroom is our business. You want to crown a king, buy an island. The rest of us are hiring a Chief Executive.
I'll tell you what I told Karl. SHOW me the law that says that. Show me where that's written and while you're at it show me Obama's college transcripts, show me his college application and show me who paid for his tuition.

Thanks.

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Lyndi wrote:
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Awww, are you still mad that your candidate almost tinkled in his pants the other night? Maybe he would have done better if his supporters and the left wing media hadn't bowed down to him from day one, had asked him the tough questions over the last 4 years and actually held him accountable for his job performance.

What you saw was the ineffectual, lazy candidate you liberals helped create.
Nice going.
Well said. And something else too: in his arrogance and hubris, Obama just plain underestimated his opponent, and apparently so did his staff. Served 'em right.

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How many of those 'new' jobs were seasonal 'picking' jobs?
Probably most of 'em.
About 1.5%, I think.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t08.ht...

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I used the average because that's what the current BLS report gave me. If you want a particular month other than September, I suggest a web-searcher called Google. I'll give you this from the September report, though:
"Total employment rose by 873,000 in September, following 3 months of little change".
3 months of little change. I'm pretty sure July and August would fall within that range.
Reportedly, most of the jobs were also part-time.

Median family annual income has dropped $5000 under this rookie's regime.

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karlVII wrote:
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Why the "edit" of my words?
Affriad the truth might hurt?
Typical right wing radical tactic
Truth, indeed :P Karl, you wouldn't know the truth if it danced naked in front of you.

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HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>Do you consider yourself a freethinker?
Don't worry, this is farm country - the conservative view is well represented. I get the fresh skinny about communism every day with my morning coffee.
My 'hood is about 80% progressive, liberal.

A bedroom community in the L.A. area.
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Well said. And something else too: in his arrogance and hubris, Obama just plain underestimated his opponent, and apparently so did his staff. Served 'em right.
Putting the election aside for minute Roberta and putting aside my wanting Romney to do well, that was still MY president up there for 90 minutes unable to defend himself, unable to explain himself and had a 4 year record that was so pathetic he hung his head because there was nothing else he could do. With the right questions and fact after fact after fact, my mother could have reduced to him to a puddle of mush.

Regardless of party affiliation I don't ever want to see my president look like that again. We hired him to do a job, he was taken to the cleaners and as nice as that is for Romney, that was MY country they were talking about.

Had I been an Obama supporter and additionally had an emotional investment in him and he gave that kind of dismal performance because it was all he had, I would have been enraged. So in my opinion, he didn't just let down the democratic party 2 nights ago. He let down the entire nation.
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Reportedly, most of the jobs were also part-time.
Median family annual income has dropped $5000 under this rookie's regime.
True that.
Inflation adjusted wages have fallen every year of this "recovery". And the policies in place of deficit spending and money printing guaranty they'll continue to fall, short of a complete collapse.
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Rudyard Kiplingesque wrote:
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How many of those 'new' jobs were seasonal 'picking' jobs?
Probably most of 'em.
Good question. The BLS puts out an "Adjusted Household Survey" which was created to track closer to the Non-Farm Payroll Survey. It ignores Agriculture payrolls, the self employed and family members that do not draw a salary. That number came in at +294,000 compared to the headline +873,000. That means 579,000 workers fell within the "adjusted" exemptions. How many of those were field hands is anybody's guess.

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