Bush is a hero

[okb2]

Senecus wrote:

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And to think people actually at one time paid off there mortgages:)
(Used to have "Mortgage burning" parties...)
Hello Okb, pleasure. A lot of good , valid points made on this thread- from both "sides", not all mutually exclusive.
That said, concerning your post I believe much can be summed up in a word - "Priorities".
Today, many "wants" are perceived as "needs"(really been on the rise last 40 some yrs.-'marketing')- in 'simpler times' just having that "roof over ones head" and "food on the table" was enough, and "living good". Less distraction, more manageable "pace of life".
Concerning the "middle class", really a quite recent phenomena in terms of human history, a blip on the radar screen. Though around in lesser form post Renaissance, its modern rise seemed to coincide with that of the Industrial Revolution , where distribution of labours freed one of more menial tasks and the economy of scale caused items to be more accessible to the masses. An interesting subject, which could fill pages.
Gotta do my part(work:), take care...

I certainly agree that we have become much more material and recreational/entertainment oriented than we were say before 1970. In the early 60's it was a "treat" to eat lunch at Burger King and we almost never ate supper out.

Our transition from an "export" economy to a consumer economy has certainly made a difference. WHile there are many things we can not compete with China on, it would be nice if more people "bought Aemrican" knowing that we support ourselves when we do that (of course an American company may not use all American parts.)

I agree with the industrial revolution and I think we had distinct "golden" age after WW II up until about 1970.

[Lyndi]

okb2 wrote:

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You never woman up, do you?

Imitation is the highest form of flattery okb but do try and be original.

[Ds Higgins1]

Skombolis wrote:

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Heh heh heh
He is a troll that has been banned over 150 times according to Topix with over 50 registered identities and 100 unregistered ones. No wonder you like him DS, your postings get more troll-like each day. Instead of backing up lies just throw out words like supposition and circular logic and hope it confuses some of the people that follow along! Says a lot about them and you!

I said NOTHING about "liking" anyone, Skom. And to me, it matters not that he's been kicked off Topix before...... I simply said its obvious that he/she is familiar with YOU, since his description of yer Topix persona seems on target.

[Lyndi]

karlVII wrote:

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You really should do some fact checking before opening your TRAP
This is whats on every News Channel (except fox news) and all over the internet
FACT CHECK: Mitt Romney rhetoric on Egypt, Libya out of step with timeline of events
Romney reeks of desperation with Libya claims
http://current.com/groups/news-blog/93899861_ ...
Romney lies about Obama's Libya response. Romney is unfit to be president.
http://hinessight.blogs.com/hinessight/2012/0 ...
AP: Romney lied, as advisers saw Libya/Egypt violence as "opportunity"
http://www.americablog.com/2012/09/ap-romney-...
Timeline of Attack on US Consulate in Libya, Romney lies
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/timeline-a...

The Blogman cometh.
lol-

[Ds Higgins1]

Skombolis wrote:

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Heh heh heh
Again you hope some of the people following are too stupid to realize you haven't answered and are impressed with the shiny words and phrases. Litany of grievances, siege mentality, supposition, circular logic...none of that changes that you don't know your own Bible and TWICE ignorantly made claims to it that were foolish and multiple times have attributed things to me that I never said. You are ignorant of your faith and dishonest in your claims. That you seem to take pleasure in it just proves my point even more. A person with integrity would feel compelled to support his claims, not laugh and how easily he can distract the rubes. You are a fraud DS, as a Christian and a man

Heh heh heh....

Unless you've been told, or you read it some place, YOU wouldn't have any idea what "a person with integrity would feel compelled to do"... On the other hand. a person like you, who is fragile, and desperate to prove his worth would go to great lengths to sell a story. I simply stand on the truth, which yer abviously not familiar with....

If you would demonstrate some humility, I may be inclined to give you an answer. But the truth is, yer questions are more aptly identified as statements, or even accusations... Stop beating yer chest for a moment, and you may possibly hear what others are saying.

[Freebird USA]

Very telling post Mr Okb. What's the difference in inciting the barbarians by releasing the video in Egypt or inciting them on national TV bragging about killing Osama ? Incite them by all means. Draw them out and dispose of them.How's that for a different approach?

[Lyndi]

.(CBS/AP) WASHINGTON - President Obama says the U.S. would not consider Egypt an ally, "but we don't consider them an enemy."

{That clears things up}

Mr. Obama said in an interview with the Spanish-language network Telemundo that Egypt is a "new government that is trying to find its way." He warns that if the Egyptian government takes actions showing "they're not taking responsibility," then it would "be a real big problem."

Ya think?

[Ds Higgins1]

BobinTX wrote:

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The great thing about that, every one of those 120,000,000 people had the exact same opportunity as did Sam Walton. And he did it by offering all 330,000,000 of us something we were free to avail ourselves, or not, and provides millions of jobs to Americans while doing it.
Talk about the land of opportunity!

Yep, Sams hires more Americans and people around the globe, than any private concern..... But all you ever hear from liberals is how Sams/Walmart is bad.

[Chris Clearwater]

Lyndi wrote:

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Let's send them a Hallmark card and apologize some more.
And hug them.
They need more hugs.
'cause terrorists have fewwings too!"
=====
"We are ALL Osama, OBAMA."
Yep, he's got it all under control okb.
Golf anyone?

Yep. No time for Israel but boy he has time for Letterman. I'm so happy this guy has his priorities in order!

[Chris Clearwater]

Ds Higgins1 wrote:

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Heh heh heh....
Unless you've been told, or you read it some place, YOU wouldn't have any idea what "a person with integrity would feel compelled to do"... On the other hand. a person like you, who is fragile, and desperate to prove his worth would go to great lengths to sell a story. I simply stand on the truth, which yer abviously not familiar with....
If you would demonstrate some humility, I may be inclined to give you an answer. But the truth is, yer questions are more aptly identified as statements, or even accusations... Stop beating yer chest for a moment, and you may possibly hear what others are saying.

He is one of the reasons I left the Jesus forum. When Bob invited him here I was thinking he had wised up. Sad its still the same old games.

[karlVII]

Remember when Ronald Reagan was running for president and was confronted with the downed-helicopter rescue mission ordered by then President Jimmy Carter to save the American hostages in the U.S. Embassy in Iran, Reagan did not see it as opportunity to score political points. Instead, Reagan said, "This is the time for us as a nation and a people to stand united."

Romney needs to take a lesson from Reagan.

[Roberta-G]

Lyndi wrote:

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Sarah Palin feels the same way.
"America can’t afford any more 'leading from behind' in such a dangerous world," Palin wrote in a Facebook post. "We already know that President Obama likes to 'speak softly' to our enemies. If he doesn’t have a 'big stick' to carry, maybe it’s time for him to grow one."

LOL Thanks, I hadn't heard about that. "Great minds think alike."

Man oh man, if THIS whole episode doesn't prove that Obama is unfit to be President of the United States, I can't imagine what would. I don't want to, either.

[Ds Higgins1]

Skombolis wrote:

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DS, is dementia catching up to you?
"WHAT? Who or what the hell are you talking about?"
It is called pollution old-timer. Air pollution to be exact in this conversation. It isn't a made-up concept. I know, you would like to believe global warming doesn't exist either because Fox news said so.
I posted seevral links for but I am not going to spend the day educating you on the actual concept of air pollution or that it causes deaths. If you don't even understand that then it would take more time then I am willing to invest to try to show you otherwise.
BTW
Any chance of you ever providing those verses or the posts about things I never said or you are content just leaving it you are ignorant on the bible and lied about what I said?

The self-indulgence in yer posts are only surpassed by the snooze-factor. You seem to be steeped in every talking point thats spewed by the leftwing blogs.

Its pretty much understood by anyone who's been paying attention, that the concept of man-made-global-warming is a farce. But here you are trumpeting the myth, as though yer some young enlightened fella, here to help out the ol'folk.... Ha!

YOU may be young, relatively speaking", but yer shtick is OLD and worn, and quickly losing steam. But don't worry Skom, you'll be able to pick up the mantra again, when the left starts singing about the coming ice-age, again.

Its what liberals have always done. They see a normal planetary cycles, and in their arrogance, claim responsibility for it. They see a man or woman who doesn't embrace their gender, and along comes a liberal to offer a "gender-reassignment "... Ha!

[karlVII]

Roberta-G wrote:

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LOL Thanks, I hadn't heard about that. "Great minds think alike."
Man oh man, if THIS whole episode doesn't prove that Obama is unfit to be President of the United States, I can't imagine what would. I don't want to, either.

A self proclaimed conservative christian, with an obsession for the Presidents Penis.

You need to repent.

[Chris Clearwater]

Ds Higgins1 wrote:

Is there anyone who really think the Arab-streets are angry about some obscure video? There is no reason for their mayhem, but isn't it more likely they'r angry with Biden/Obama for repeatedly spiking Osama's head?
Is there anyone who thinks this uprising, which just happens to be on 9-11 is coincidental?
Is there anyone who thinks that tweet from the Embassy, apologizing to the radicals, wasn't initiated by a high ranking Obama-administration official?
Is there anyone who still don't yet realize that there is coordination and left leaning bias in the mainstream media?
Is there anyone who thinks Romney is the only citizen who isn't allowed to comment on these trobling events?
Is there anyone who find it funny that Obama accused Romney of "shooting then aiming"? HA!

Anyone that will vote again for Obama. This was quite telling:

Press Coordinates Question to Ask Romney

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/press-coo...

[Lyndi]

Chris Clearwater wrote:

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Yep. No time for Israel but boy he has time for Letterman. I'm so happy this guy has his priorities in order!

I don't think he understands what his job is. This presidency has been like one big "Yay me" celebration from day one and when something like this happens, he behaves as though his day was interrupted.
It's amazing.
This guy doesn't drag himself away from his desk to campaign. This man drags himself from the campaign to put it a couple hours of work.

[Rudyard Kiplingesque]

lisw wrote:

Used to be that middle class meant you had a job and you could pay your bills. I'm interested in the liberal take on what constitutes middle class.

Wasn't the middle class the home owners, with a two car garage, children, bank maccounts, and jobs?
The other day, I saw a headline that said,'If you have a job, you're middle class.'
How scary is that?

[Ds Higgins1]

Skombolis wrote:

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Um..you can't post any scripture to back up what you said and you know it. It is why you have made half a dozen posts responding to the request by doing anything but posting scripture to support it.
Do you really think that is believable?'Oh I could post scripture to support my crazy statements but you wouldn't understand it so I won't" I know it is hard on your fragile ego to constantly say stupid things that aren't grounded in reality but you simply don't understand your own faith. Any time you want to discuss any subject on the bible I will be more than happy to demonstrate by "bible literacy"
Maybe next you can distract people by jingling your keys?

Heh heh heh......

There is nothing to be gained by showing you up, any more than you have been doing to yerself, Skom. You already claim to be this learned bible-scholar, and there is nothing I could post to dissuade you of that. As I said, go back and learn something, and when you have convinced me, by knowing the basics, I'll then consider engaging you on that.

[Ds Higgins1]

Skombolis wrote:

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Thank you for continuing to prove what a liar you are and how you don't feel the tiniest need to let the truth or facts play a role. Bobin claimed I was a bigot because one of the first things I did was attack Romney's faith. That never happened. You continue to go along with it claiming it is abundantly clear despite the fact that it never happened. This is why people like you repeat things like the POTUS hates his country. A person in here called another a bigot based on something that never happened and you not only support it, you defend your refusal to even see if it ever happened.
You have zero integrity DS. Is it so hard for you to admit you were wrong or do you know you are lying when you do it and that is why you refuse to re-visit it? Either way, it speaks volumes to your ethics

Heh heh heh....

Oh, so yer still talking about BTX?

More evidence of yer under-siege-insecurities...

[okb2]

Freebird USA wrote:

Very telling post Mr Okb. What's the difference in inciting the barbarians by releasing the video in Egypt or inciting them on national TV bragging about killing Osama ? Incite them by all means. Draw them out and dispose of them.How's that for a different approach?

Here is the difference:

How many Americans were killed in Libya, Egypt or Yemen within one week of our getting Osama?

The video was already available on YouTube in English. The translation into Arabic (?) and release for the middle east was timed around 9-11.

Now how many Americans get killed in the week after we got Osama again?