Bush is a hero

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

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#143282 Aug 20, 2012
okb2 wrote:
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So how many times did you vote for Biden?
Sadly, once... he had me fooled in 1972. It didn't take him long to show me what a jerk he really is... he hasn't changed.

“Rainbow: God's covenant ”

Since: May 07

Safety Harbor, FL

#143283 Aug 20, 2012
Lyndi wrote:
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Quaint.
And who's going to decide that? You and WWW?
Did you ever read Animal Farm? George Orwell?
"All animals are created equal but some are more equal than others."
Views which you don't think should see the light of day because they don't agree with yours, is disturbing. Can you guess which form of government that philosophy most closely resembles?
Hint:
A democracy is not the correct answer.
obama has told us from his postion as Pres some people and some networks should not be listened to. Humm, any other recent Pers do this? It was before my time but I know Nixon had an enemies list but did he say things like that in public? Why not just have state run media tell us what we need to know? And if you don't agree some folks in the night might come help you out.(Now thats parnoid and a joke)

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#143284 Aug 20, 2012
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>not deep, just an expression of complete contempt for the idiocy of your post.
And another obamabot gets irritated because the truth has gotten past his "obama blinders TM".
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#143285 Aug 20, 2012
okb2 wrote:
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I have asked you before, what policies do the Republicans persue that would be a direct benefit to Black People? Here is what they persue that would not benefit black people directly or immediately:
1. End Affirmative Action (how many years now has the Republican Party persued this?)
2. End/reduce welfare/SNAP/Housing payments.
3. End/reduce medicare.
4. End/reduce federal assistance to schools.
5. End/reduce Pell program and others that assist disadvantaged going to college.
6. Support of get tough on crime laws and mandatory sentencing.(While ending funding for programs to keep black youth off the street.) Oh wait, in your mind sending black youths to prison is a program to keep them off of the street.
Did you know that if you said this in the woods and there was no one around to hear you, it would still be wrong?
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#143286 Aug 20, 2012
BobinTX wrote:
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Sadly, once... he had me fooled in 1972. It didn't take him long to show me what a jerk he really is... he hasn't changed.
He doesn't like being bald.

Since: Jul 12

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#143287 Aug 20, 2012
Lyndi wrote:
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I really like you okb. And I enjoy our exchanges but I am not going to pen out a mini thesis which is what it would require to accurately portray the political differences between GWB and President Obama.
These forums have their limits and I am not a talented enough writer to convey in a few short paragraphs, such a task.
The only thing socialist that Obama has done that bush did not do is the Healthcare Bill. On the other hand bush gave us NCLBA and the Pharmacy package.

We are a socialist country (citizen support systems) with a well regulated, capatilist economy. In addition to the citizen support systems, much of our government services are provided using socialist principles.

“Rainbow: God's covenant ”

Since: May 07

Safety Harbor, FL

#143288 Aug 20, 2012
rider wrote:
GEORGE BUSH: THE UNAUTHORIZED BIOGRAPHY
Chapter -XXV- THYROID STORM
Caesar non super grammaticos
(The emperor cannot defy the grammarians.)
--Marcus Pomponius Marcellus to Tiberius
When speaking in his capacity as an ideologue, George Bush has always expressed a great admiration for Theodore Roosevelt. When Bush moved into the Oval Office, he removed the portrait of Calvin Coolidge placed there by Reagan and replaced it with a likeness of the Rough Rider. Bush's references to his devotion to Theodore Roosevelt are strewn across his public career, and especially his White House years. They came thick and fast during the period of the Panama invasion, but were also prominent during the Gulf crisis. Here is one from late November, 1990:
Certainly I get inspiration from Teddy Roosevelt. Actually there's a parallel, not an exact parallel obviously, between San Juan Hill and Kuwait City. I've just been reading an interesting treatise on Teddy Roosevelt; his conviction and his determination and his leadership inspire me. All of those things inspire Presidents, I think.[fn 1]
Bush's endorsement for Teddy Roosevelt is an endorsement for a world outlook and for a policy orientation. Inseparably from that, it is also a statement of affinity for a certain form of psychopathology that is associated with Teddy.
Winter the dolphin has no tail had has inspired millions of people!

“Rainbow: God's covenant ”

Since: May 07

Safety Harbor, FL

#143289 Aug 20, 2012
BobinTX wrote:
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An old drinking buddy of mine told me about his grandfather, who had come to the U.S. from Germany. He absolutely thought Adolph Hitler was great... he immigrated after Hitler had brought Germany out of its depression, and before he started his atocities and war. The Adolph Hitler he knew saved Germany. He died still admiring Adolph.
<quoted text>
I think she's realizing that she probably grossly overestimated your intelligence as well. It's a draw.
Many people must have thought Hitler was great at the time. Sadly when I lived in Tn. I met a young man that still had nothing but praise for that sick man.

“Rainbow: God's covenant ”

Since: May 07

Safety Harbor, FL

#143291 Aug 20, 2012
okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>
The only thing socialist that Obama has done that bush did not do is the Healthcare Bill. On the other hand bush gave us NCLBA and the Pharmacy package.
We are a socialist country (citizen support systems) with a well regulated, capatilist economy. In addition to the citizen support systems, much of our government services are provided using socialist principles.
Perhaps if he is elected again obama can work on "bankrupting coal" his words.

“Rainbow: God's covenant ”

Since: May 07

Safety Harbor, FL

#143292 Aug 20, 2012
Use of electricity

Coal is the most common fuel for generating electricity in the United States. In 2011, coal was the fuel for 42% of the 4 trillion kilowatthours of electricity generated in the United States.

http://www.eia.gov/coal/
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#143293 Aug 20, 2012
okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>
The only thing socialist that Obama has done that bush did not do is the Healthcare Bill. On the other hand bush gave us NCLBA and the Pharmacy package.
We are a socialist country (citizen support systems) with a well regulated, capatilist economy. In addition to the citizen support systems, much of our government services are provided using socialist principles.
{I am aware of how my government works. Thanks.}

Please explain to me {because the President wasn't able to} what "the private sector is doing fine" means.
rider

Gwinn, MI

#143294 Aug 20, 2012
Chris Clearwater wrote:
Use of electricity
Coal is the most common fuel for generating electricity in the United States. In 2011, coal was the fuel for 42% of the 4 trillion kilowatthours of electricity generated in the United States.
http://www.eia.gov/coal/
grasping for straws? how are you and Todd Akin doing these days?

“Help Cecil Help!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#143295 Aug 20, 2012
BobinTX wrote:
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And another obamabot gets irritated because the truth has gotten past his "obama blinders TM".
given up completely already, or just mindlessly padding the post count?

“Rainbow: God's covenant ”

Since: May 07

Safety Harbor, FL

#143296 Aug 20, 2012
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>Please tell me what's 'solved' by statements like "From what I've noticed, most blacks do not delve too deeply into politics or policies...", would you?
I don't think that's a particularly reasonable view, one that's going to solve anything.
Well, now ... unchallenged statements like that could explain part of the reason some black people don't vote Republican, so in that respect it could be useful...
When I worked at the a/c co a cowoker and I became friends and he was black. He knew I was active in 9-12 and asked me my thoughts. He was a family man and everything I knew of him would say he was strongly on the right but he didn't vote. I shared that I thought those that came before us and died for freedom, its the least we can to vote. I've lost times the number of times libs have said I hate the Pres, am a bigot ect. I can't even fathom what it must be like for him.
rider

Gwinn, MI

#143297 Aug 20, 2012
Lyndi wrote:
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{I am aware of how my government works. Thanks.}
Please explain to me {because the President wasn't able to} what "the private sector is doing fine" means.
Ask your favorite politician Todd Akin!

“Unemployed Bush 5.3 obama 8.7”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#143298 Aug 20, 2012
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
SKL: On the contrary - I didn't ignore your sources. You went to the time and trouble to post them, at least. The examples indicate strongly that cases of in-person voter fraud are few and far between, and in my view don't warrant the full-scale assault on the right of a citizen to vote, being perpetrated (by Republicans exclusively) on the electorate.
Exclusively? I'm not a Republican, and I believe in Voter ID.
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
BobinTX:
"BTW, you did prove my point. The first link I presented was a USA Today article by Greg Abbott, which you quickly wrote off as an opinion. However, Greg Abbott is the Attorney General of Texas, and the article contained actual convictions in Texas by his office."
SKL: Texas has a very successful conviction rate. Its execution rate is highly successful as well. Its in-person voter fraud rate, however, is pretty low. As in an average of 5 per YEAR.
In the entire state of Texas.
Where the number of registered voters is 13,065,425. I think that speaks for itself.
The percentage of people that assinate Presidents and members of Congress is far, far less, I wonder why picture ID is required to visit the Whitehouse and Congress... if we use your logic.
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
SKL: "Voter fraud is hard to detect..." so let's just take the easy way out, and declare every registered voter with the same name as any registered felon, ineligible to vote. We'll let them know about it when they show up to the polls on election day.
Sorry - that sort of chicanery, in addition to all the other voter suppression techniques being bandied about lately, just doesn't work for me.
Asking people to show that they are who they say they are, to people that have no idea who they are seems like a logical requirement. Voting is much too important a right to allow it to be negated by any fraud... especially when, for much of it, there is a simple fix.

You need picture ID to enter federal buildings, to cash a check, to drive a car... why not use positive ID for choosing your representatives too? I know I want my vote to count, and not be negated by some dead person's vote. Even that "one" fraudlent vote may be negating my legitimate vote.
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
BobinTX:
"But, as you said, you've seen very little evidence of voter fraud... and that, I'm sure is true. Now go stick you head back in the sand, before you learn something."
SKL: There's very little evidence of in-person voter fraud to be seen, sir. Now if you want to discuss wide-spread voting MACHINE fraud, I'll be more than happy to oblige you; but there just aren't enough cases of actual fraud being perpetrated by individuals, to merit the shenanigans of the Republican party with regard to limits on the right of a citizen to vote in this country.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/08/13/in-pers...
"Of the 2,068 alleged election-fraud cases compiled by News21, only 10 involved in-person voter fraud — the kind of voter fraud that voter ID laws would prevent. In comparison, there were 491 cases of absentee ballot fraud and 400 cases of registration fraud."
That was one heck of an "investigation" that you used for your example. I did a "Google" search, I think it was for "voter fraud" and "voter fraud convictions", and came up with more voter fraud than they did... and that was in only one state.

It makes me wonder if they already knew the story outcome that they wanted, and then went after the "facts" to support that outcome.

“Help Cecil Help!”

Since: Dec 06

Lafayette IN

#143299 Aug 20, 2012
BobinTX wrote:
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An old drinking buddy of mine told me about his grandfather, who had come to the U.S. from Germany. He absolutely thought Adolph Hitler was great... he immigrated after Hitler had brought Germany out of its depression, and before he started his atocities and war. The Adolph Hitler he knew saved Germany. He died still admiring Adolph.
That's a very nice story. We had an (uncle? cousin?) on the German side of the family who got hooked up with the German American Bund in the 30s, emigrated (or was deported - discussion of him was verboten) to Germany, and was never heard from again.

Is there a point to this?

If your point is that Obama is somehow analogous to Hitler, you're just being a moron. You're not alone - there were left wing idiots who were just sure Bush was going to (or might) impose a right wing dictatorship (or theocracy, depending on how tight the wingnut) on America.

They were morons too.

“Rainbow: God's covenant ”

Since: May 07

Safety Harbor, FL

#143300 Aug 20, 2012
So gas just set a record. I am sure Nancy and co are looking into it. Waiting, waiting.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OIL_PR...

“Rainbow: God's covenant ”

Since: May 07

Safety Harbor, FL

#143301 Aug 20, 2012
rider wrote:
<quoted text> grasping for straws? how are you and Todd Akin doing these days?
Don't know who that is, nor care. I do care who the Pres is and since the Pres makes it clear his energy policy is questionable at best this is important. Unless you live 100% off the grid.

Since: Jul 12

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#143302 Aug 20, 2012
Lyndi wrote:
<quoted text>
Quaint.
And who's going to decide that? You and WWW?
Did you ever read Animal Farm? George Orwell?
"All animals are created equal but some are more equal than others."
Views which you don't think should see the light of day because they don't agree with yours, is disturbing. Can you guess which form of government that philosophy most closely resembles?
Hint:
A democracy is not the correct answer.
A viewpoint is an opinion. The viewpoint that some viewpoints should never see the light of day is an opinion of an opinion.

A couple of posts below this you stated that an opinion that I had would not be true even if I said it all alone in the middle of the woods.

That is pretty close to saying what I stated should never have seen the light of day..........and who made that judgement?

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