Bush is a hero

“searching myself”

Since: Sep 09

In Charming CA

#79579 Jul 11, 2010
Roberta G wrote:
<quoted text>I personally would define a true feminist as someone who upholds the right of any woman individually or women collectively to live as they see fit. If women want to be Senators, soldiers, musicians, garbage collectors, or a corporate CEO, a true feminist would support that choice. If women want to be nurses, teachers, ballet dancers or homemakers, a true feminist would support that too.
Well, hell, I guess that makes me a true feminist. Cool.
Roberta G wrote:
<quoted text>And don't anybody bring up abortion right now. I'm just not going to go there tonight.
Ok. Not tonight.

Since: Jul 10

New York, NY

#79580 Jul 11, 2010
okboston wrote:
In November of 2010 Americans will choose to once again leave the Dems in charge in Congress. Why? Because the right (not conservatives, the posers currently in charge of the right) do not have any answers.
Reagan cut taxes and doubled the deficit. bush cut taxes and doubled the deficit. What do the Republicans want to do now?
Your right with regards to Reagan, the problem was not the cutting of taxes as it was with the increase spending, Reagan was never a fiscal conservative, Bush senior was but had to deal with Reagan's spending and you remember Bush raised taxes and lost the election for it.

“What the hay”

Since: Mar 08

Florida

#79581 Jul 11, 2010
shovelhead72 wrote:
<quoted text>Good evening, RG. The bike is a Harley Davidson Shovelhead, crafted in the year 1972. She is a real lady, about 3 down on the list where the category "mechanichal marvels" resides. My hubby is a genius biker.
:)
Thank goodness, now we can connect the name sake. Without your reference it was a little odd other wise.

I now appreciate your name on here with the person in an enlightened way. I had been wondering about that.

Since: Dec 09

Waterloo, IL

#79582 Jul 11, 2010
Of course Bush is a hero! He helped the Saints win the Super Bowl.

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#79583 Jul 11, 2010
bad bob wrote:
<quoted text>
IF a drug user was single, with no children, used drugs within the confines of his/her own abode, went in, and came out sober, had the independent funds to support the habit permanently, and did NOT operate any type of vehicle, you might have a leg to stand on.

However, some drugs have lingering effects, some (like LSD) may cause flashes. Some may be deadly, such as heroin or speed balls, combination drugs may result in OD's like John Belushi, & Chris Farley.

Do we as a society wanna add MORE intoxicants to the list in which the general populace has free no-penalty access, when drunk drivers (especially multiple violators) already are significant fatal road hazards? Ride along with an EMT or fireman in a busy metro area and help pull the mangled bodies of innocent people, many including children of all ages from DUI car wrecks, and then come back & declare the same stance.

Libertarian beliefs are fine if that's yer bag, but there should be a reserved discipline so's not to go beyond the point of no return (IMO).
Amen, BB, especially the first paragraph.

“searching myself”

Since: Sep 09

In Charming CA

#79584 Jul 11, 2010
Roberta G wrote:
<quoted text>Amen, BB, especially the first paragraph.
I failed to sift through he past enough to glean Bob's original post to which you reply here;
however, I detect a certain amount of sanctimonious-ness (sic) in his assertion. Methinks he was describing himself in his "hippie" days.

“The future begins”

Since: Jul 07

every moment

#79585 Jul 11, 2010
Fearless and Happy wrote:
<quoted text>
The same, in my opinion, would have applied to FDR (one of our first Socialist Presidents). He single handedly caused the depression and we were redeemed only by WWII.
Seriously, FaH. You do know that it began three years before he was elected, right?

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#79586 Jul 11, 2010
Arizona Spirit wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks,
but This isn't the thread for that :) Although the other web site this is the discussion sort of. That is why I came to this site and started going back wards to see who knew what. About Mr. Bush.
Sure, it is :) We talk about ANYTHING here--the more controversial, the better ;) As a matter of fact, illegal immigration was the issue that first drew me to this thread, more than two years ago, when DS Higgins told me about it :)

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#79587 Jul 11, 2010
shovelhead72 wrote:
<quoted text>I failed to sift through he past enough to glean Bob's original post to which you reply here;
however, I detect a certain amount of sanctimonious-ness (sic) in his assertion. Methinks he was describing himself in his "hippie" days.
Naaaah...WhatEVER gave you THAT idea?

;)

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#79588 Jul 11, 2010
lisw wrote:
<quoted text>Yes I did and I don't know much about Schlafly and I don't think Palin calls herself a feminist. It is never one woman or one person that launches a movement. It is a whole line of people some who operate anonymously. Freedom, true freedom, involves choices. The kind of woman I want to be may not be the kind you want to be. My hero is Ma Joad from the "Grapes of Wrath". Tough, capable and with her arms wrapped around the world. I don't think Gloria Steinem would like her. That's a shame. It takes all kinds of women, even the ones that stay home and push out babies as you so delicately put it. If women don't stick up for each others choices then we're not as far as I thought.
Very well said :)

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#79589 Jul 11, 2010
shovelhead72 wrote:
<quoted text>Good evening, RG. The bike is a Harley Davidson Shovelhead, crafted in the year 1972. She is a real lady, about 3 down on the list where the category "mechanichal marvels" resides. My hubby is a genius biker.
:)
She clearly is your pride and joy :) I think we all have something or some things like that. One of mine is a photograph taken by my father, around 25 years ago. When he learned how much I loved it, he had it framed and gave it to me :)

Since: Jun 10

Surprise, AZ

#79590 Jul 11, 2010
Roberta G wrote:
<quoted text>Sure, it is :) We talk about ANYTHING here--the more controversial, the better ;) As a matter of fact, illegal immigration was the issue that first drew me to this thread, more than two years ago, when DS Higgins told me about it :)
I think shovelhead has been one or two of the threads that I post on.

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#79591 Jul 11, 2010
I wouldn't be surprised. I've run into several of the regulars here, and some of the not-so-regulars on other threads, both before and after I joined this one.

“Custer @ LBH - Ooops”

Since: Nov 07

Bakersfield, CA

#79592 Jul 11, 2010
shovelhead72 wrote:
<quoted text>I failed to sift through he past enough to glean Bob's original post to which you reply here;
however, I detect a certain amount of sanctimonious-ness (sic) in his assertion. Methinks he was describing himself in his "hippie" days.
Great detective work, miss Kay.

Lessee, over a period of about 27 years, I smoked pot from all over the world, angel dust, hashish, pure thc, & cocaine, ate Quaaludes, speed, whites, black beauties & LSD. Sniffed Nityl Butrate ampules. Never did heroin, Mescaline, peyote buttons, reds, or any of the rest of them. MJ was last to go, and that was about mid 1999. I s'pose that qualifies as a description.

Are we doing Shakespeare now?

"To be or not to be – that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles
And, by opposing, end them. To die, to sleep
No more – and by a sleep to say we end
The heartache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to –‘tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wished. To die, to sleep
To sleep, perchance to dream. Ay, there's the rub.

For in that sleep of death what dreams may come,
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause. There's the respect
That makes calamity of so long life."
(continues on)

“What the hay”

Since: Mar 08

Florida

#79593 Jul 11, 2010
Arizona Spirit wrote:
<quoted text>
I think shovelhead has been one or two of the threads that I post on.
I support your State. I can’t believe what is happening. American’s in general are hung up on old baggage to react to this. Ie accusations of racism. Notice the oppositions only argument.…They never argue that illegal immigration is wrong. Just read their signs. They only claim it’s racist. That’s because they know this enforcement may work and have no other argument.

Since: Jun 10

Surprise, AZ

#79594 Jul 11, 2010
Poggy Bill wrote:
<quoted text>I support your State. I can’t believe what is happening. American’s in general are hung up on old baggage to react to this. Ie accusations of racism. Notice the oppositions only argument.…They never argue that illegal immigration is wrong. Just read their signs. They only claim it’s racist. That’s because they know this enforcement may work and have no other argument.
This is true. Remember racial profiling does come in all colors.

Since: Nov 09

USA

#79595 Jul 12, 2010
Roberta G wrote:
<quoted text>I agree with that as well, DS, but as I said, I believe in giving credit where credit is due. The only point I've been trying to make is that while we should not overrate Steinem's accomplishments or influence, neither should we minimize them.
Fair enuff....:)

Since: Nov 09

USA

#79596 Jul 12, 2010
shovelhead72 wrote:
<quoted text>I agree that when you can watch
a)a family implode on live television,
b)13 people agree to live for weeks in a house infested with live feed cameras, and try to get each other evicted on the strength of their flaws,
c)obese folks compete to see who is the 'biggest loser' or
d)those obsessed with plastic surgery have their own show
that the world is a sick, sad place. But the thing is, WE CAN TURN OFF THE SET.
Children need supervision. Parents need to put the needs of their kids first. In my opinion, we as parents are in charge of what our childrens' influences are. We have the responsibility to raise our children, and those who let 'culture' raise their kids are not parents.
I couldn't agree more.

Seems far too many people want their double helping of freedom, without any of the responsibility...

I believe there are inherent benefits to having children. But those benefits can quickly become a curse, unless we spend time in the trenches, actually parenting those children.

Since: Nov 09

USA

#79597 Jul 12, 2010
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
For the record - pertussis is also on the rise, or at least there has been a significant cluster of outbreaks, in Maine, Georgia, upstate/central New York, Idaho, and Alabama in the last year.
That's the power of two minutes on Google.
The people who study these things will point to a number of potential contributing factors, of which immigration/transient population is just one possible cause. The anti-immunization movement is another. There are many more.
(Not an epidemiologist. Never played one on television. Been kind of interested in it since I found out the Spanish Flu of 1919-20 killed off several siblings (each) of three of my grandparents.)
Those driven only by an agenda will focus on that factor they believe supports that agenda.
Oh, I wonder why yer answering my post, while pretending yer jes randomly addressing epidemiolog? Ja right, Willie!

This just proves what an above-the-fray ballsy guy that you are, wildman....:)

Anyways, I wonder why you'ld take the time to Google a subject brought up by the likes of ME, when yer already busy with my twin, WIR?

Since: Nov 09

USA

#79598 Jul 12, 2010
WildWeirdWillie wrote:
<quoted text>Twelve thousand dollars a month in benefits, huh?
Still smokin' the Black Ganja, are we?
That family prolly aint getting 12Gs, but whatver they'r getting is MORE than they should, as its still thievery, from US tax payers.

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