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“Otter”

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Ok Fundies, if your God tortures how can you call that God "Loving"?
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You heard the man. Let the illogical justifications begin.

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Bipolar disorder?
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You say God loves each and every one of us. Yet this same God will torture for eternity anyone for the slightest infraction of any rule. This same God allegedly killed it's only son to appease it's own anger from an event thousands of years before that son was born. This is a Loving God? In scriptures this Loving god has exhorted people to commit genocide and to own slaves. The last supper of the son of this God was ritual Cannibalism - where is the Love in that.
Would not a Loving God forgive all People, regardless. Is not Forgiveness the greater part of Love?

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Ok Fundies, if your God tortures how can you call that God "Loving"?
God's a Svengali-like sadomasochist, and we're all His sex slaves.
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Ok Fundies, if your God tortures how can you call that God "Loving"?
Ok, this is only my guess; the fundies will come back with "he's a loving god to his OBEDIENT servants only." Or something equally ridiculous.

S.I.N.= Self Inflicted NONSENSE

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This ought to be interesting.

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Ok, this is only my guess; the fundies will come back with "he's a loving god to his OBEDIENT servants only." Or something equally ridiculous.
S.I.N.= Self Inflicted NONSENSE
I love S.I.N!

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Not if you belong to him

But the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel

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You say God loves each and every one of us. Yet this same God will torture for eternity anyone for the slightest infraction of any rule. This same God allegedly killed it's only son to appease it's own anger from an event thousands of years before that son was born. This is a Loving God? In scriptures this Loving god has exhorted people to commit genocide and to own slaves. The last supper of the son of this God was ritual Cannibalism - where is the Love in that.
Would not a Loving God forgive all People, regardless. Is not Forgiveness the greater part of Love?
As usual, you're confusing God with Cathlocism.

Everything that's gone wrong in history because of religion can mostly be laid at the feet of the Catholics.

There was even two popes at once, one part there. That's not spose to be.Papist shenanigans.
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Most Religion is for the weak!
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Ocean56 wrote:
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Ok, this is only my guess; the fundies will come back with "he's a loving god to his OBEDIENT servants only." Or something equally ridiculous.
S.I.N.= Self Inflicted NONSENSE
That's exactly what a fundie would say.

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Wow, you're dumb. You really should read the Bible so you dont sound so idiotic.
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You say God loves each and every one of us. Yet this same God will torture for eternity anyone for the slightest infraction of any rule.
It isnt the "slightest infraction of any rule." Its refusing Christs gift. Thats the ONLY thing that keeps you from Heaven. If you refuse the gift of Heaven, then you dont get it. Just like all other gifts.
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This same God allegedly killed it's only son to appease it's own anger from an event thousands of years before that son was born.
First, what the heck are you talking about???

Second, God didnt kill Christ, man did. Also, it didnt kill Him, just His Earthly body from which He defeated death and arose on the third day. Later, he ascended. That was the reason He came here in the first place....willingly.
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This is a Loving God? In scriptures this Loving god has exhorted people to commit genocide and to own slaves.
Before you start crying about any genocide, should we start talking about abortion?

How low does your IQ need to believe that the Bible says you SHOULD own slaves?
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The last supper of the son of this God was ritual Cannibalism - where is the Love in that.
Again, just how low is your IQ? I know what you are trying to say, but what you fail to understand is symbolism.
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Would not a Loving God forgive all People, regardless. Is not Forgiveness the greater part of Love?
And he does, without fail as long as you accept it. If you refuse his forgiveness, you comdemn yourself.

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Ocean56 wrote:
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Ok, this is only my guess; the fundies will come back with "he's a loving god to his OBEDIENT servants only." Or something equally ridiculous.
S.I.N.= Self Inflicted NONSENSE
S.I.N.= Transgression of the law of God, a vitiated state of human nature in which the self is estranged from God.

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<quoted text>I love S.I.N!
I bet you do!
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Again, just how low is your IQ? I know what you are trying to say, but what you fail to understand is symbolism.
How low is your IQ to base your knowledge on a fictional book that posits the idea that burning bushes and serpents talk?

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Saranacotter wrote:
Ok Fundies, if your God tortures how can you call that God "Loving"?
the answer is.... no. he's not the 'torturer', he's the 'saviour'.

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Fish wrote:
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How low is your IQ to base your knowledge on a fictional book that posits the idea that burning bushes and serpents talk?
Prove its fictional, until then, Shuuuuuush!
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Fish wrote:
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How low is your IQ to base your knowledge on a fictional book that posits the idea that burning bushes and serpents talk?
Hallucinogenics were pretty big with nomadic Jews. I'm not kidding. If you go to the jungles South America and sit with a shaman and take a concoction made up mainly of DMT (naturally occurring in the brain) you are apparently likely to see talking serpents. I think there was a particular type of magic mushroom around in biblical times which had the same attributes. I've seen burning bushes when I've partaken. LOL!
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