There is Everything Wrong with Abortion

[Bitner]

james in charlotte wrote:

<quoted text>Those aren't real apples... These are real apples:
Hebrews 13:4 Marriage is to be held in honor among all, and the marriage bed is to be undefiled; for fornicators and adulterers God will judge.
Roman 1:26-27 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with WOMEN and were inflamed with lust for one another. MEN COMMITTED INDECENT ACTS WITH OTHER MEN, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

No, that is simply your mythology.

[Phaerae]

james in charlotte wrote:

<quoted text>I guess not...

I already commented on that.

[_Fish_]

roadrunner48808 wrote:

<quoted text>Give him credit, has to be at least eleven. Isn't it nice his mommy lets him play on topix?:) How ya doing buddy?

Peachy. Howze you?

[_Fish_]

james in charlotte wrote:

<quoted text>So if, God forbid, one of your children were fresh from a horrible accident and being stabilized with a breathing machine, prognosis is "unsure" (unable to breathe on its own)... would you pull the tube because he is not breathing on his own?

Which part of roadrunner's post did you not understand?

[james in charlotte]

roadrunner48808 wrote:

<quoted text>Not at all.ould you care to explain what this has to do with abortion. I was on a breathing assistance apparatus. Doesn't mean they should have killed me....moron

Of course you wouldn't... you may be able to feed that "breathing on your own" mumbo jumbo as an excuse to have your conscience "seared with a hot iron"... but abortion is homicide or feticide... I don't care if it is a volunteer legal act or if somebody does it by a hostile act.(Even though abortion is hostile act in itself)...

[Phaerae]

james in charlotte wrote:

Homicide Laws That Recognize Unborn Children as Victims Throughout the Period of Pre-natal Development
Nebraska: The killing of an "unborn child" at any stage of pre-natal development is murder in the first degree, second degree, or manslaughter. Neb. Rev. Stat.§ 28-391 to § 28-394.(2002) In addition, "The Assault of an Unborn Child Act," effective April 13, 2006, provides that a criminal attacker who causes "serious bodily injury" to an unborn child commits the offense of "assault on an unborn child" in the first, second, or third degree. "Unborn child" is defined as "an individual member of the species Homo sapiens at any stage of development in utero." (LB 57, 2006)

Only as it relates to the womans right to carry to term...once again...absolutely zero to do with the fetus and everything to do with the womans right to choice.

[james in charlotte]

_Fish_ wrote:

<quoted text>How can you deny His Holy Noodliness? The reason you reject him is because of your hardened heart.

That's your God Fish... not the God of the Bible..

[Phaerae]

_Fish_ wrote:

<quoted text>Jesus seems to be quite powerless to help anyone.
Millions of children starve to death every year but you fundies think your god is there to help you find your car keys. Holy FSM, you people are delusional.

giggle...I'll pray to FSM as I really could use a neck massage and he's got so many noodly appendages.

[james in charlotte]

Dennis Deal wrote:

<quoted text>
Son I actually proved you wrong and clueless.. James do your research before you decide to post something. You are intellectually dishonest.. and one of the laziest, clueless fools I have seen.
you have creditability James.. Instead of being proud of your lack. You should be trying to be doing better. In can only help your position.
But that is right you know you have no position..

No need for verbal assault son... just eat it:

Pennsylvania: An individual commits criminal homicide in the first, second, or third-degree, or voluntary manslaughter of an "unborn child" if the individual intentionally, knowingly, recklessly or negligently causes the death of an unborn child. 18 Pa. Cons. Stat. Ann.§§ 2601 to 2609 (1997) "Unborn child" and "fetus." Each term shall mean an individual organism of the species Homo sapiens from fertilization until live birth." On December 27, 2006, in the case of Commonwealth of Pennsylvania v. Bullock (J-43-2006), the Pennsylvania Supreme Court unanimously rejected an array of constitutional challenges to the law, including claims based on Roe v. Wade and equal protection doctrine.

[Stewie]

roadrunner48808 wrote:

<quoted text>Point put one poster who has stated they "hate" Christians.

You can tell the truth without being rude. You are my brother in Christ and Im saying this to you in Christian Love. Being rude turns people off. By all means tell the truth as we are commanded to do, but do it in a gentle loving manner. How you conduct yourself reflects on other Christians.

[_Fish_]

james in charlotte wrote:

<quoted text>
Taking notes... Bitner believes in killing a viable child when the head is outside of the vagina... dialation and "extraction" (another medical term is known as "cranial collaspe" because as the brain is sucked out of the child's head its head "collaspses" in on itself)... you believed partial-birth before the exception (life of the mother) and you believe it now...

Taking notes... Bitner stated that she believed it should be used to save the life of the woman.

Taking notes... James In Charlotte would presumably prefer a female loved one to die to support his position.

You said "vagina." heh-heh

[james in charlotte]

Dennis Deal wrote:

<quoted text>
If the person identify s with the Wiccan 'Rede then yes.. If the person believes in the Gods and Goddesses then yes that would make a person a Pagan.. How clueless are you James?
Never mind you answer that question on an almost daily basis...

So if Phaerae says she believes in Wicca then that would make her a Wiccan?

[_Fish_]

james in charlotte wrote:

<quoted text>Whichever way she put it... I don't care if she is the "host with the most"... abortion is feticide... legal fetal homicide...

Incorrect. Fetal homicide involves the death of a fetus due to a criminal act.

[james in charlotte]

Phaerae wrote:

<quoted text>
Why? I believe in wicca and many of the beautiful beliefs it has to offer...just as I believe in certain aspects of Buddhism, just as I believe in certain aspects of christianity...etc.
As mentioned I believe in taking the best parts of all religions and following that...sorry that you feel you need to pigeon hole me to one belief but you can't james...I believe in many things.
You spend your days pouring through pages on wicca, satanism, gaia....does this make you wiccan and not christian? In fact I bet you know more about wiccan than I ever will, perhaps you are training to be a high priest and starting your own religion...since you seem to put yourself in God's place where judgement is concerned.
I think you should spend less time concerned with the souls of others and more time working on savings yours from hell.

The difference between you and I is... "I don't believe in Wicca"

[_Fish_]

vahe adamian wrote:

<quoted text>
Do you want to know what is just existing? Living the very short period we have on this earth & die without knowing Lord Jesus Christ.
Now I call that shameful & sad!

Thank you for sharing your mythology. What's really sad is shirking reality and intellectual enlightenment in favor of being bound by the rusty chains of archaic, bronze-age mythology. Please grow up.

[_Fish_]

james in charlotte wrote:

<quoted text>So if Phaerae says she believes in Wicca then that would make her a Wiccan?

Jesus Jumping Christ, the fundamentalist coward obsesses over Wicca again.

[Phaerae]

james in charlotte wrote:

<quoted text>So if Phaerae says she believes in Wicca then that would make her a Wiccan?

Hmmm...believe he stated that if the person follows the wiccan rede.

I believe wiccan's are also vegetarians and since I am definitenly not a vegetairan how can I be wiccan?

[FundieSmacker]

Stewie wrote:

<quoted text>You can tell the truth without being rude. You are my brother in Christ and Im saying this to you in Christian Love. Being rude turns people off. By all means tell the truth as we are commanded to do, but do it in a gentle loving manner. How you conduct yourself reflects on other Christians.

It's a pity that Scott, vahe, James and others do exactly that and so much worse on the PL side of this discussion unendingly and I don't see the same request being made of them, Stewie.

To be a Christian as I know you know, one holds themselves to a higher standard, and the aforementioned need to be called on their atrocious hypocrisy by other Christians.

[_Fish_]

james in charlotte wrote:

<quoted text>That's your God Fish... not the God of the Bible..

That's because you are spiritually blinded to the truth by your hardened heart.

[FundieSmacker]

_Fish_ wrote:

<quoted text>Incorrect. Fetal homicide involves the death of a fetus due to a criminal act.

James thinks he's an expert on throwing enough crap up against the wall hoping some of it will stick, but the problem is, none of his is sticking.