There is Everything Wrong with Abortion

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#229671 Apr 25, 2013
The Advocate wrote:
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This reasoning is exactly why Stellan Skarsgard is one of my favourite actors. After studying the Bible and the Qur'an he condemned them as equally violent and said that any God so vain as to constantly demand worship is not worthy of our time.
Religion needs more logical people that like in its ranks, at least!
Absolutely! The bible is filled with awful, awful things that makes me laugh when people say our society has become so evil. Apparently these people have never read the bible...

“IMAGINE no religion!”

Since: Feb 09

usa

#229672 Apr 25, 2013
Angel1976 wrote:
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I will have you know that I did in fact have a total hysterectomy and have had no problems whatsoever and I am not a pathological liar either. I know the truth and so does God. He granted me the ability to educate others in things such as FAS. So now who is the dumb one surely not me.
you are!!!!!!

just because you are an exception to all the rules **rolls eyes**....
doesn't mean it is so for others.

in fact most women have some type of problem. from minor to major.

most women struggle with not feeling like a female, after having their sex organs cut out.

but again, you are always the exception..........rolls eyes**

i am beginning to see a histrionic p.d. in you.

“IMAGINE no religion!”

Since: Feb 09

usa

#229673 Apr 25, 2013
Angel1976 wrote:
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I know quite a few women who have had a hysterectomy because they didn't want to have kids. So don't sit there and tell me that I am lying or stupid or dumb. I do know what I am talking about. Not every women goes into menopause after having a hysterectomy.
dumbass i have been in the medical profession for 30+ yrs.

either you are lying, the women you are saying had a major surgery as a form of birth control are lying and/or some doctor/s have breached the medical ethics code and done a procedure for reasons other than what should have been done.

you are partially correct. a woman will not go into menopause as long as she keeps her ovaries [but has her utterus removed].

i opt for number one.

“IMAGINE no religion!”

Since: Feb 09

usa

#229674 Apr 25, 2013
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>The best argument she can come up with, is 'because god.'
So yeah, I agree - I should stop beating my head against the wall of your combined ignorance.
Naah. Poking holes in your bullshit is rather entertaining.
i think this is another poster (who got run off again) posting as a grey boxer

“IMAGINE no religion!”

Since: Feb 09

usa

#229676 Apr 25, 2013
Angel1976 wrote:
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Like I said before you guys can believe all your lies but I know that I am telling the truth and so does God.
concession speech noted.

if others believe in your imaginary friend, does it make it more real?

“IMAGINE no religion!”

Since: Feb 09

usa

#229677 Apr 25, 2013
The Advocate wrote:
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She has the right to do so if that's what SHE wants to -- but she shouldn't force that view on other women.
What kind of education does one have if one thinks conception by rape is always correct simply because it results in a baby?
you dumbass, she simply stated what she would do in such a situation.

she never stated that she felt it was right for ALL women, just her.

her opinion, her belief. nothing more.

but you are too ignorant to realize that.

why are anti-choicers so stupid? does it come naturally or do you work at it?

“IMAGINE no religion!”

Since: Feb 09

usa

#229678 Apr 25, 2013
Life is Precious wrote:
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Oh boo hoo!! Get over it. Good grief!
You are just mad because you can't use the money to fill your piehole.
yet you use govt money to fill yours every month.

funny that, hypocrite.

“IMAGINE no religion!”

Since: Feb 09

usa

#229680 Apr 25, 2013
Expert in all Things wrote:
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So no problem with murdering the babies, just the women?
no problem terminating an unwanted pregnancy. the rights of the living, born, air breathing female, trump those of the unborn EVERYTIME!

every baby born should be wanted and loved.

not just brought into this world because a biological event took place.
LightForce

Warren, MI

#229681 Apr 25, 2013
NWmoon wrote:
<quoted text>Wads of goo are not children. They don't live on their own, they don't think, feel or have rights. They are WADS OF GOO. NOT children.
Do you have it set on automatic response? My clue is that most of you on here just respond without thinking first, and don’t even know what you’re really responding to/about most of the time. As a result, besides giving totally irrelevant and false answers, you end up even arguing between yourselves.

Your “wad of goo” hypothesis is not only oversimplifying the matter, but could only be relevant in the first few weeks after conception. Most abortions are committed long after that point. The rest of your comment has no real substance to it. They’re either false, or irrelevant statements like I have already pointed out.

As an example, why would the inability to live on your own deny you to right to life at all? To you does this seem like a logical solution to the problem? Can you really be that cold-hearted?

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#229683 Apr 25, 2013
LightForce wrote:
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Do you have it set on automatic response?
You mean like you have "All life is sacred" on automatic response?

Tell it to that ant you just stepped on, hypocrite.
LightForce

Warren, MI

#229684 Apr 25, 2013
Liam R wrote:
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Incorrect. Every person has a right to live. Until they actually ARE a person, it is ludicrous to talk of them as if they were.
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The soul. Without a soul, there is no person.
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It is called "birth". The wad of goo stops being a fetus, and becomes a child.
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This is the point at which the soul joins with the body to transform a wad of goo into a human being.
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Quite the contrary, I love my kid quite a bit, and take great efforts to provide all the support and nurturing that I can.
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I have never advocated the killing of a child. I consider that to be the worst form of murder.
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No child was involved in the scenario. A woman got an abortion, and then left for a vacation. No big deal.
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Until we can locate the “soul”, there will never be a basis for its consideration in our personal rights. So your answer to #1 is debunked there. In the second question you are again basing your answer on the point at which the invisible soul enters the body, at which point it now becomes a child in your opinion. I’m not going to say crazy, but I will point out that it isn’t enough proof to condemn someone.

Logic – Is a 32-week-old pre-natal human being less of a child than a 24-week-old post-natal human being.

This bit of common sense of course nullifies the rest of your argument.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#229685 Apr 25, 2013
LightForce wrote:
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Until we can locate the “soul”, there will never be a basis for its consideration in our personal rights. So your answer to #1 is debunked there. In the second question you are again basing your answer on the point at which the invisible soul enters the body, at which point it now becomes a child in your opinion. I’m not going to say crazy, but I will point out that it isn’t enough proof to condemn someone.
Logic – Is a 32-week-old pre-natal human being less of a child than a 24-week-old post-natal human being.
This bit of common sense of course nullifies the rest of your argument.
"Until we can locate the “soul”, there will never be a basis for its consideration in our personal rights."

Good point. Which is why religious beliefs should NEVER be a factor in any legislation in this country.
The Advocate

Mexico, Mexico

#229686 Apr 25, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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"Until we can locate the “soul”, there will never be a basis for its consideration in our personal rights."
Good point. Which is why religious beliefs should NEVER be a factor in any legislation in this country.
It's curious that a lot of people oppose abortion based solely on their religious beliefs instead of making their own conclusions about abortion; religion can be quite an issue when discussing medicine.
But I think that a lot of people are getting mixed up about how much they use religion as a front for their beliefs -- I could care less if someone is of a specific group, but I would certainly care if that person is a fanatic who doesn't respect other peoples' liberties.

That being said, I do recall the Founding Fathers of the US building up a new nation based on French and English Enlightenment philosophy and a funny little document called the US Constitution instead of pledging eternal allegiance to the Bible.
Ella

Rockford, MI

#229688 Apr 25, 2013
When a society gives consent to unlock the door to one evil act, another evil door always swings open:

Door #1: Abortion - Google this article:'Reuters promotes eugenics with 'abortion is safer than giving birth' headline'

Door #2: Sale of abort fetus parts - Google this article:'Fetal body parts used for reseach'( Written by iwishart on Wednesday, March 7, 2012 ), and fetal tissue request site - Agilent Technologies/Genomics.

Door #3: Consumption of fetus parts - Google these articles:'Pepsi, Nestle scandal – flavour ‘enhanced’ by aborted foetal cells'( Written by iwishart on Tuesday, March 6, 2012),'Pepsi and Dead Babies'(Bill Muehlenberg's commentary on issues of the day…Published: 6.3.12 ),'Avoid Any Products Containing Aborted Fetal Cells'(Written by Dave Mihalovic, Prevent Disease, March 9, 2012),'China's New Lucrative Business: Dead Babies Turned Into Stamina Booster Pills'(Aug. 5, 2011), and 'Aborted Babies Sold as Health Food for $10'(by Hong Kong Eastern Express on April 12, 19950.

Door #4: Born alive but left to die - Google these articles:'491 babies born alive after failed abortions, left to die: Statistics Canada confirms'(by PATRICK B. CRAINE, Wed Nov 28, 2012),'Aborted Child Born Alive, Left to Die; Obama Was Okay With That'
(by AWR Hawkins | Washington, DC | LifeNews.com | 5/24/12), and 'Babies survive abortion, left to die',(by Sheila Liaugminas | 10 Dec 2012/Sheila Reports/MercatorNet)

Door #5: Killing Babies - Google this article -'Killing Babies no different from abortion,...'( by Stephen Adams, Medical Correspondent, Feb. 29, 2012), and 'When is Killing Your Baby Okay?'(Thursday, March 01, 2012/ Mars Hill)

Door #6, Door #7 ...to be continued.....

By promoting a women's right to abortions, abortion advocates are doing their part to help big business make their record profits and further foster the desensitization of society at large; just in time for the next door of evil to open. Take a good look at the bigger picture abortion activists, you have become willing pawns in their game.....Your freedom can only come through Jesus now - John (chapters 1-20), Acts 2:38-39.

“Becoming a better me!”

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#229689 Apr 25, 2013
Ella wrote:
When a society gives consent to unlock the door to one evil act, another evil door always swings open:
Door #1: Abortion - Google this article:'Reuters promotes eugenics with 'abortion is safer than giving birth' headline'
Door #2: Sale of abort fetus parts - Google this article:'Fetal body parts used for reseach'( Written by iwishart on Wednesday, March 7, 2012 ), and fetal tissue request site - Agilent Technologies/Genomics.
Door #3: Consumption of fetus parts - Google these articles:'Pepsi, Nestle scandal – flavour ‘enhanced’ by aborted foetal cells'( Written by iwishart on Tuesday, March 6, 2012),'Pepsi and Dead Babies'(Bill Muehlenberg's commentary on issues of the day…Published: 6.3.12 ),'Avoid Any Products Containing Aborted Fetal Cells'(Written by Dave Mihalovic, Prevent Disease, March 9, 2012),'China's New Lucrative Business: Dead Babies Turned Into Stamina Booster Pills'(Aug. 5, 2011), and 'Aborted Babies Sold as Health Food for $10'(by Hong Kong Eastern Express on April 12, 19950.
Door #4: Born alive but left to die - Google these articles:'491 babies born alive after failed abortions, left to die: Statistics Canada confirms'(by PATRICK B. CRAINE, Wed Nov 28, 2012),'Aborted Child Born Alive, Left to Die; Obama Was Okay With That'
(by AWR Hawkins | Washington, DC | LifeNews.com | 5/24/12), and 'Babies survive abortion, left to die',(by Sheila Liaugminas | 10 Dec 2012/Sheila Reports/MercatorNet)
Door #5: Killing Babies - Google this article -'Killing Babies no different from abortion,...'( by Stephen Adams, Medical Correspondent, Feb. 29, 2012), and 'When is Killing Your Baby Okay?'(Thursday, March 01, 2012/ Mars Hill)
Door #6, Door #7 ...to be continued.....
By promoting a women's right to abortions, abortion advocates are doing their part to help big business make their record profits and further foster the desensitization of society at large; just in time for the next door of evil to open. Take a good look at the bigger picture abortion activists, you have become willing pawns in their game.....Your freedom can only come through Jesus now - John (chapters 1-20), Acts 2:38-39.
By donating money to a church, YOU are allowing churches to operate at a profit and denying many people much needed tax cuts.

And, if you EVER hear of anyone "killing babies" please notify the authorities immediately. It is against the law and perpetrators must be stopped.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Columbus, OH

#229690 Apr 25, 2013
The Advocate wrote:
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It's curious that a lot of people oppose abortion based solely on their religious beliefs instead of making their own conclusions about abortion; religion can be quite an issue when discussing medicine.
But I think that a lot of people are getting mixed up about how much they use religion as a front for their beliefs -- I could care less if someone is of a specific group, but I would certainly care if that person is a fanatic who doesn't respect other peoples' liberties.
That being said, I do recall the Founding Fathers of the US building up a new nation based on French and English Enlightenment philosophy and a funny little document called the US Constitution instead of pledging eternal allegiance to the Bible.
Ah, you're after my own heart here. I definitely agree!
LightForce

Warren, MI

#229691 Apr 25, 2013
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>You mean like you have "All life is sacred" on automatic response?
Tell it to that ant you just stepped on, hypocrite.
If you feel that strongly about ant rights, what are you out there doing about it?

http://insectrights.org/howtohelp.html

I myself have no respect for ant murderers and will say so, but I also have to live with the fact every day that I may have killed a few accidentally myself.
LightForce

Warren, MI

#229692 Apr 25, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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"Until we can locate the “soul”, there will never be a basis for its consideration in our personal rights."
Good point. Which is why religious beliefs should NEVER be a factor in any legislation in this country.
I somewhat agree, but being religious in origin should not be the basis for discounting a fact either. It’s very hard to tell the difference between religion and politics if at all, and just like in some aspects of religion, people in political parties will just mimic the viewpoints of their side because they “believe” it to be true, rather than ever showing it to be true. I’m not saying that an opinion/belief alone can’t sometimes be right, but too often a personal agenda will take precedence over a truth that is based on facts or reason. Using a viewpoint, whether from religion or politics is never wrong just because you may believe that the source is wrong, but neither should that view be used based solely on partisan beliefs/agendas alone, with no sound foundation or reason to back it up.
LightForce

Warren, MI

#229693 Apr 25, 2013
Sangelia wrote:
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many places like the one she refers to. not only do they have dirty floors. but also dirty instruments, walls, etc.....
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many of the backstreet abortionists do NOT even wash their hands between abortions...
I'm shocked! You would think that at least they would show some common courtesy and wash their hands between murders.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#229694 Apr 26, 2013
LightForce wrote:
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I somewhat agree, but being religious in origin should not be the basis for discounting a fact either. It’s very hard to tell the difference between religion and politics if at all, and just like in some aspects of religion, people in political parties will just mimic the viewpoints of their side because they “believe” it to be true, rather than ever showing it to be true. I’m not saying that an opinion/belief alone can’t sometimes be right, but too often a personal agenda will take precedence over a truth that is based on facts or reason. Using a viewpoint, whether from religion or politics is never wrong just because you may believe that the source is wrong, but neither should that view be used based solely on partisan beliefs/agendas alone, with no sound foundation or reason to back it up.
Yes, it should. Religion has no place in politics. At all.

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