In the instance of abortion, YES.<quoted text>
Do you believe that your right to a medical procedure should transcend the right of another human being to live?
"Murder" is a legal term. It means 'illegal killing'. Abortion is legal, therefore, it is not 'murder'. It is killing, which has been legalized. Just like the death penalty, killing in war, and killing for self defense.<quoted text>
What does being legal have anything to do with your argument?
Should the law change to define abortion as illegal, I will still believe it is often necessary.<quoted text>
Do you flip-flop every time the law changes?
I frankly don't care how small the 'section' of abortions done to save lives is - if safe and medically regulated abortion is criminalized, women who need it to save our lives will lose access to it, just like every other woman in the country, and women will die for the sake of the 'convenience' and 'conscience' of fetus worshipers such as yourself. Pardon me if I don't find that palatable.<quoted text>
I never said that self-defense is not justifiable. You continue to use this argument even when it involves only a small section of actual abortions.
Given where?<quoted text>
So we can probably drop this part of the discussion and focus on the real reasons for abortion, which are mainly as a means of birth control, and other various selfish reasons like being able to go on vacations, or not having to carry a stroller and baby at the same time. I didnt make these up, these are actual reasons given here.
To the actual size of a comparably developed fetus. Facts are cool - embrace them.<quoted text>
Just what are you comparing the size of the fetus in the video to?
You don't want evidence. You want agreement. You want warm fuzzies. You want to involve yourself in an issue which will never personally affect you, and receive kudos from strangers for your 'stance'. You want women to die, so that you don't have to obsess about abortion anymore. You want to pat yourself on the back, and be able to tell yourself that no matter how much of a miserable bastard you may otherwise be, you've been redeemed by your attitude about abortion.<quoted text>
Did you think that King Kong in the movie was really 40 feet tall? Ive been waiting, and will probably continue waiting for a long time for anybody to show me any evidence.
You won't be getting any of that from me.