There is Everything Wrong with Abortion

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#229322 Apr 17, 2013
Ella wrote:
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The Welfare System was designed to protect the general welfare of poor families with children. When a parent abuses the system, their behavior has a direct impact on their children's well-being. For example, if the parents uses monies intended to provide for their children's ongoing general welfare to support their substance abuse habit, then that parent's behavior can be viewed as neglect and/or abuse of the general well-being of their child(ren). The best interest of the child(ren) should always be the main priority. The parent's poor judgement is a separate issue that should be addressed on an individual basis. I know many would disagree with me on this.
In other words, some children deserve a good life, and some don't, depending on the wealth and choices of the parents.

You're Pro-life....?
Yeah, right.
Expert in all Things

Cottonwood, CA

#229323 Apr 17, 2013
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>That was a very poorly worded question, but approximately 50% of all rapes go unreported, so who knows?
And what difference does it make? Legal abortion doesn't require a rape charge, and it shouldn't.
And it won't.
Slow your roll, Sis. Rape victims were brought up in the discussion so I assumed that someone thought it did make a difference, so I'll leave that for them to answer your inquiry.

I am curious what percentage of abortions are attributed to rape, I didn't know so I asked.

So, you still have a problem with me?

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#229324 Apr 18, 2013
mamma-san wrote:
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I don't eat worms or small bits of raw fish.
That may be about the only thing you don't eat:)
Vera

Fayetteville, NC

#229325 Apr 18, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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Look! We have a new resident in Crazy Town everybody!
With those words, you summed up the mindset of all abortionists...

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#229326 Apr 18, 2013
Angel1976 wrote:
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You are so right on that one. And like I said I think that each one of us disability or not should have the right to live no matter how bad it is. We the ones who have these deserve a fighting chance just as much as the next guy who may not have a disability.
If by "the right to live" you are referring to abortion, doesn't the woman who's pregnant have rights? Shouldn't she have the right to NOT have to risk her life to remain pregnant or give birth?

Why should she be forced to remain pregnant and give birth against her will?

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#229327 Apr 18, 2013
Life is Precious wrote:
<quoted text>That may be about the only thing you don't eat:)
Keep it up. I love it when you make comments about my weight. Shows how little you know about me.

I love watching you act even stupider and more ignorant than you already are.
Life is Precious

South Bend, IN

#229328 Apr 18, 2013
mamma-san wrote:
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If by "the right to live" you are referring to abortion, doesn't the woman who's pregnant have rights? Shouldn't she have the right to NOT have to risk her life to remain pregnant or give birth?
Why should she be forced to remain pregnant and give birth against her will?
You have asked this same old tired question for years. Once she is pregnant she has a responsibility to that baby to take care of it in her womb and allow that baby to be born and be somebody.Respnsibility is the key word here.IMO. Once pregnant it is not just her body anymore. Pretty simple really.

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#229329 Apr 18, 2013
mamma-san wrote:
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Keep it up. I love it when you make comments about my weight. Shows how little you know about me.
I love watching you act even stupider and more ignorant than you already are.
And I love it when you make a total jackass out of yourself.

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#229330 Apr 18, 2013
Expert in all Things wrote:
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Slow your roll, Sis. Rape victims were brought up in the discussion so I assumed that someone thought it did make a difference, so I'll leave that for them to answer your inquiry.
I am curious what percentage of abortions are attributed to rape, I didn't know so I asked.
So, you still have a problem with me?
To answer your last question first,'bro', I don't even know you. So no.
What I have a problem with,'bro', is your assertion that abortion is any of your business...you've been pregnant how many times, again??'Bro'?

In answer to your other question, about 1.5% of abortions are 'attributed' to rape... but since 50% of rape doesn't get reported, that estimated percentage of abortions is automatically lower than the actual number.

Which brings up a rather interesting point:
If women must claim rape in order to get an abortion, the number of reported 'rapes' will skyrocket in proportion, and so will the number of wrongly incarcerated males.

Don't know about you, but that idea doesn't thrill me...

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#229331 Apr 18, 2013
Life is Precious wrote:
<quoted text>You have asked this same old tired question for years. Once she is pregnant she has a responsibility to that baby to take care of it in her womb and allow that baby to be born and be somebody.Respnsibility is the key word here.IMO. Once pregnant it is not just her body anymore. Pretty simple really.
That is YOUR OPINION. It is NOT fact.

And I will continue to ask it for more years in order to get people to THINK.

Women are far more than the contents of their uterus. They are not brood mares.

If she knows she cannot be the mother that child deserves, and knows she cannot give it up for adoption, she is being RESPONSIBLE by having an abortion.

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#229332 Apr 18, 2013
Life is Precious wrote:
<quoted text>And I love it when you make a total jackass out of yourself.
Down the road.

Not across the street.

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#229333 Apr 18, 2013
reagal wrote:
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You love to murder. I have no compassion for a monster like you. You are no different than the Newtown and Boston murderer. I bet you are an atheist.
Yep, cause all atheists are abhorrent people. Go back to your cave, troll. You sound like an awful person.

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#229334 Apr 18, 2013
Expert in all Things wrote:
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What percent of abortion accounts for rape victims?
How can one ever know since many rapes go unreported and logically, any abortions affiliated with them. Don't be so daft.

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Westerville, OH

#229335 Apr 18, 2013
Vera wrote:
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With those words, you summed up the mindset of all abortionists...
I wouldn't know. I haven't spoken to any abortionists. And I'm quite sure neither have you.

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#229336 Apr 18, 2013
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>I've never blamed a man for any of my problems. That certainly doesn't prevent me from calling you out on the obvious fact that you loathe and despise women - whom you routinely castigate for making our own medical choices, when those choices don't conform to your morality.
My powers of observation are excellent. Have you watched the video??
You still haven't stated definitively whether or not you have ever seen the fetus you are bleating about.
When I speak about the rights of the preborn, I’m not talking about the rights to medical choices for women. If you still don’t understand my position, we can go over it again if you like. Your posts concerning this have no validity until you stop equating medical choices with the choice to murder.

I saw the video and the fetus, now what? I think that your own self-interests may be getting in the way of your ability to see it objectively.

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LightForce

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#229337 Apr 18, 2013
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>In other words, some children deserve a good life, and some don't, depending on the wealth and choices of the parents.
You're Pro-life....?
Yeah, right.
Here you go again switching words around and then altering the original intent of their meaning.

The original intent of Ella’s comment obviously meant to help everybody involved have the necessities of life rather than to support the parent’s drug habit, which wouldn’t help anybody. That sounds reasonable to me.
LightForce

Warren, MI

#229338 Apr 18, 2013
mamma-san wrote:
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If by "the right to live" you are referring to abortion, doesn't the woman who's pregnant have rights? Shouldn't she have the right to NOT have to risk her life to remain pregnant or give birth?
Why should she be forced to remain pregnant and give birth against her will?
You can’t just apply the term “rights” arbitrarily. Why should you have the right to kill your child? The child has a moral right to live which should always take precedence over any selfish right to kill the child.
LightForce

Warren, MI

#229339 Apr 18, 2013
Expert in all Things wrote:
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What percent of abortion accounts for rape victims?
The high estimate would be 1%. We know this for a fact because if there were any possibility at all it were any higher the pro-abortionists on here would be very quick to point it out.

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#229340 Apr 18, 2013
LightForce wrote:
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You can’t just apply the term “rights” arbitrarily. Why should you have the right to kill your child? The child has a moral right to live which should always take precedence over any selfish right to kill the child.
If someone is killing their child, please notify the police immediately. Killing a child is against the law and that person should be arrested.

You cannot say what is moral for someone else. If it is immoral for YOU to have an abortion, then don't have one. But you don't get to decide what is moral and what is not for anyone else.
LightForce

Warren, MI

#229341 Apr 18, 2013
mamma-san wrote:
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If someone is killing their child, please notify the police immediately. Killing a child is against the law and that person should be arrested.
You cannot say what is moral for someone else. If it is immoral for YOU to have an abortion, then don't have one. But you don't get to decide what is moral and what is not for anyone else.
If we use your premise to solve our problems then that would mean we can do whatever we want, even if it means killing another person. You can't just change the meaning of "rights" when it comes to you as opposed to another individual. That would be a double standard which makes your whole argument invalid.

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