There is Everything Wrong with Abortion

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Columbus, OH

#228874 Apr 8, 2013
Grunt56 wrote:
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No, I still care about them. Ou should be accountable for them then, too.
But we've discussed that already.
Sure. You care. Eyeroll. We can tell.(That's sarcasm if you didn't catch that.)

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Columbus, OH

#228875 Apr 8, 2013
Grunt56 wrote:
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Not "we'll see". It's "we've seen", and it will continue.
It's ironic getting family advice from someone who killed her children and had her husband leave her. Mine are still here. You'll never know that kind of love.
lol...I'm loving this "husband" thing. What a hoot.

I haven't seen one woman in jail for having an abortion. And I never will. Nor will you. And any laws will not stop women from having them. But you already know that and have admitted as much.

Darling, if I wanted to have children, I could have. I chose not to. I'm glad I did.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#228876 Apr 8, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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Husband? Talk about reading comprehension. Just goes to show you have no clue what you're talking about. I'm not married and never was. If you want to believe my non-existent husband left me, that's cool. I'm not going to bother correcting you because A. I don't care what you think and B. I know the truth.
And again, I cordially invited you to regurgitate your supposed "crushing" argument you had against me and you refuse to (much like you refuse to do anything that proves you're a mindless idiot). So I have to assume you had nothing to offer. I don't "save posts" like you do (psssssyyyyycccchoooo) and I don't commit your every piece of drool to memory. So, if you want to rehash whatever argument, feel free. Or you could just write a bunch of the same bumbling madness you usually do and it would be all the same to me.
That makes much more sense. You couldn't get him to marry you to begin with. Why buy the cow when she's giving up the milk

Roll on back to the last time I addressed your point. You won't, though. As I established ages ago, and you just gave evidence of, you disappear when your argument falls apart and pop back up a few pages later crying about some trivial detail.

You're a troll. It's why I typically just point out your moral, social, and intellectual shortcomings and laugh. You aren't worth much else.

Seems every guy you've been with feels the same.
The Advocate

Mexico, Mexico

#228877 Apr 8, 2013
Grunt56 wrote:
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That makes much more sense. You couldn't get him to marry you to begin with. Why buy the cow when she's giving up the milk
Roll on back to the last time I addressed your point. You won't, though. As I established ages ago, and you just gave evidence of, you disappear when your argument falls apart and pop back up a few pages later crying about some trivial detail.
You're a troll. It's why I typically just point out your moral, social, and intellectual shortcomings and laugh. You aren't worth much else.
Seems every guy you've been with feels the same.
Jeez creature, why so obsessed with the lady's family life? Trolling for one of your own? It ain't gonna work with your shit logic and half assed insults.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Columbus, OH

#228878 Apr 8, 2013
Grunt56 wrote:
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That makes much more sense. You couldn't get him to marry you to begin with. Why buy the cow when she's giving up the milk
Roll on back to the last time I addressed your point. You won't, though. As I established ages ago, and you just gave evidence of, you disappear when your argument falls apart and pop back up a few pages later crying about some trivial detail.
You're a troll. It's why I typically just point out your moral, social, and intellectual shortcomings and laugh. You aren't worth much else.
Seems every guy you've been with feels the same.
I don't believe in marriage. What's a piece of paper do? Didn't stop your wife from leaving you.

I don't have time to go "roll on back" through days and days of posts. If you'd like to write it out, by all means. I'm not exactly "disappearing" if I'm telling you to bring up your "point" again. It's you who is stalling here.

I don't really think you know how pathetic you come off. A couple of us have talked about how your posts are laughable because you try so gosh-darn hard. You obviously have something you feel you need to prove to us. Notice we're not trying to prove anything to you. Know why? Now read this closely:(whisper) we don't care what you think. We know you're a sad, lonely soul.

So, do you have some argument you'd like to pose or do you just want to continue with this sophomoric banter? I'm sorry, I forgot you don't use polysyllabic words. Look it up.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Columbus, OH

#228879 Apr 8, 2013
The Advocate wrote:
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Jeez creature, why so obsessed with the lady's family life? Trolling for one of your own? It ain't gonna work with your shit logic and half assed insults.
This guy's hilarious. I really do think he's borderlined obsessed. I probably remind him or some woman who rebuffed him back in the day. One of many, I'm sure.
LightForce

Rockford, MI

#228880 Apr 8, 2013
NWmoon wrote:
<quoted text>Wrong, I'm saying a wad of goo is not a child. You're the one trying to assign attributes to wads of goo that do not exist, and assume an outcome to every conception that just isn't there.
Wads of goo are not people. BORN human beings have rights, even when they're old or incapable of caring for themselves because they are BORN HUMAN BEINGS.
Sorry you're too dense to understand that.
Some people also believe that you need a “moral consciousness” to be considered a real person. That would obviously exclude a lot of pro-abortionists. As with most pro-abortionists you tend to focus on the differences between human beings rather than the similarities. We can all be classified to some extent “different” than others. At whatever stage of development, you share many similarities to these “wads of goo” as do I, in that it is just another point in the development of us all.
LightForce

Rockford, MI

#228881 Apr 8, 2013
NWmoon wrote:
<quoted text> Really? When MY life was nearly ended because of an ectopic pregnancy it was certainly not a non-argument. It was the only reason I had the abortion, because it was that or die.
Oh, and in case it escapes your limited scope of comprehension, if *I* had died, the foetus would have died along with me. So what good would it have done to have refused the surgery?
Fool.
This comment was made as it pertains to its relative importance to the entire context of the abortion issue. You obviously don’t understand my position on abortion when it involves saving the life of the mother, and I doubt that you even care. Nevertheless see this comment if you want to know. http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0SOT21...
LightForce

Rockford, MI

#228882 Apr 8, 2013
mamma-san wrote:
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My opinion on this doesn't matter.
Each state has laws that address this issue.
Well we know that your opinion is irrelevant, but regardless of that fact, that's what I was asking for. What are you trying to hide?
Ella

Rockford, MI

#228883 Apr 8, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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Mmmmm...nope.
Your denial of the obvious is just incredible.
Ella

Rockford, MI

#228884 Apr 8, 2013
Liam R wrote:
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When it draws in that very first breath of air at birth.
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If a woman can't make up her mind over something that serious and is still dithering over the matter, then I would suggest that the species is better off if she NOT have any offspring...
Of course, that (sort of) brings up the most serious problem with abortion: the lower a person's intelligence, the more likely they are to have religious reasons for not getting an abortion, and vice versa. Thus abortions may be causing the lowering of average IQs.
But then, stupid people are also more likely to have large families. I have known far too many smart folks who have chosen to not have ANY kids. The future does not bode well for the human race.
I guess one needs to be inside your head to appreciate your "logic" because what you have posted does not make sense at all.
Ella

Rockford, MI

#228885 Apr 8, 2013
Liam R wrote:
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Wanna bet?
The Bible does not oppose abortion...
Only in your world.
Ocean56

AOL

#228886 Apr 9, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
But it isn't your business. No matter how many times you say it is. It never will be your business. Shrug. Don't like it? Not my problem. I never sought or desired your approval and I still don't. What you think or feel on the matter will never change any woman's decision.
Exactly. And that's what makes the anti-choice extremists so angry; the fact that another woman's pregnancy will never be their business.

No matter how many times they claim to be "concerned" about the fetus, they make it so obvious that their REAL agenda is controlling women and our sexual/reproductive decisions. The dark days of the 19th century are GONE.
Ocean56

AOL

#228887 Apr 9, 2013
Ella wrote:
I did check out the website and I agree many had expressed regret for getting pregnant in the first place. Unfortunately many women live the fantasy of a carefree lifestyle until they do get pregnant and then they are faced with the reality of responsibility.
Yes, there are many girls and young women who don't realize that ALL methods of birth control can and DO fail occasionally, which means there are no 100% guarantees they won't get pregnant. However, you don't get to determine "responsibility" for anyone but yourself, and neither does anyone else.

The ONLY person who decides whether or not to continue a pregnancy is the WOMAN who is pregnant. Bottom line; if it isn't YOUR pregnancy, it isn't your decision. Simple as that.
Ocean56

AOL

#228889 Apr 9, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
I don't believe in marriage. What's a piece of paper do? Didn't stop your wife from leaving you.
"Grunt56" is obviously one of those regressive imbeciles who thinks that any woman who isn't married has something "wrong" with her. That kind of idiotic "thinking" was common in the 1950's and 1960's, and some of these morons can't get past that point.

Unfortunately for all women, there are still plenty of backward-thinking guys who get married for primarily one reason; they're tired of doing their own housework (and too cheap to hire a maid service) and want a "little woman" to do it for free. Grunt definitely appears to be one of these losers. Why any woman would willingly marry a guy like him in the first place is beyond me.
Ocean56

AOL

#228890 Apr 9, 2013
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dianne-lawrence...


Dianne Lawrence

THE REAL THREAT TO MARRIAGE

Posted: 6/04/2012

The religious conservatives have it wrong ... again. Gay marriage will not destroy the institute of marriage. How can people who want to get married end marriage?

In fact, gay men and women who crave marriage are the distraction, the front, the "beard" if you will for the real secret, pervasive threat to the Institute of Marriage ... childless, single, joyous, happy and free women who just can't get worked up about getting married and who do not want children. And our numbers are growing. Nearly half of the population is single and 61 percent of them have never married.

I have been unmarried all my life (60 years) despite being attractive, bright, talented and accomplished. I've had a few men hover around aiming at my ever moving target, and I've had a few men who were too fast on their feet to fall over my extended foot. I had one man hint around about marriage, and the only response I could give him was "Think, man, THINK!"

(Skipping three paragraphs)

I am not against marriage. I know some wonderful unions where two people have lasted and are so well suited one couldn't imagine them with anyone else. In some cases one couldn't imagine anyone else putting up with either of them. I have also seen disastrous unions and placed bets at the wedding as to the number of years or even months it would last. I've seen wonderful unions that ended with the untimely death of the partner. I like the stories of "We knew we were right, right from the start" and they were right. Yet this "right for each other" never came my way. And if it did, I apparently didn't notice.

But contrary to what married folks want to believe, lack of children or husband has many rewards for an adventurous woman. Freedom is not just another word for nothing left to lose. I have had the enormous great fortune to have been able to pursue everything I've ever wanted to do and become the most full version of myself, something I hear gets lost for many women in the middle of endless husband and child demands. I do know that a family can have its rewards: Who can deny the benefits of protection, affection, support? But so many are a hotbed of tangled resentments, unspoken fears and complicated intrigues one can't deny that single isn't better or worse than being married: It's just different. Actually for some of us it seems to work exceedingly well. The secret is out.

Since: Apr 12

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#228891 Apr 9, 2013
The Advocate wrote:
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Jeez creature, why so obsessed with the lady's family life? Trolling for one of your own? It ain't gonna work with your shit logic and half assed insults.
I'm concerned when the favorite family past time is creating life then taking it.

Speaking of obsessed, you've been humping my leg.

Since: Apr 12

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#228892 Apr 9, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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I don't believe in marriage. What's a piece of paper do? Didn't stop your wife from leaving you.
I don't have time to go "roll on back" through days and days of posts. If you'd like to write it out, by all means. I'm not exactly "disappearing" if I'm telling you to bring up your "point" again. It's you who is stalling here.
I don't really think you know how pathetic you come off. A couple of us have talked about how your posts are laughable because you try so gosh-darn hard. You obviously have something you feel you need to prove to us. Notice we're not trying to prove anything to you. Know why? Now read this closely:(whisper) we don't care what you think. We know you're a sad, lonely soul.
So, do you have some argument you'd like to pose or do you just want to continue with this sophomoric banter? I'm sorry, I forgot you don't use polysyllabic words. Look it up.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Troll troll trolling along

It's what you do. You present an argument, I destroy it, then several pages later you say "what argument"

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Ocean56 wrote:
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Exactly. And that's what makes the anti-choice extremists so angry; the fact that another woman's pregnancy will never be their business.
No matter how many times they claim to be "concerned" about the fetus, they make it so obvious that their REAL agenda is controlling women and our sexual/reproductive decisions. The dark days of the 19th century are GONE.
This is just not true,prolifers are very concerned not only for the mother but also the baby.
prolifers believe the baby has a right to be born and be something in this world.
Everytime a woman has sex with a man unless she has had a hysterectomy she should be prepared for a possible pregnancy.

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#228894 Apr 9, 2013
Ocean56 wrote:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ dianne-lawrence/never-married- woman-threat-to-marriage_b_156 2185.html
Dianne Lawrence
THE REAL THREAT TO MARRIAGE
Posted: 6/04/2012
The religious conservatives have it wrong ... again. Gay marriage will not destroy the institute of marriage. How can people who want to get married end marriage?
In fact, gay men and women who crave marriage are the distraction, the front, the "beard" if you will for the real secret, pervasive threat to the Institute of Marriage ... childless, single, joyous, happy and free women who just can't get worked up about getting married and who do not want children. And our numbers are growing. Nearly half of the population is single and 61 percent of them have never married.
I have been unmarried all my life (60 years) despite being attractive, bright, talented and accomplished. I've had a few men hover around aiming at my ever moving target, and I've had a few men who were too fast on their feet to fall over my extended foot. I had one man hint around about marriage, and the only response I could give him was "Think, man, THINK!"
(Skipping three paragraphs)
I am not against marriage. I know some wonderful unions where two people have lasted and are so well suited one couldn't imagine them with anyone else. In some cases one couldn't imagine anyone else putting up with either of them. I have also seen disastrous unions and placed bets at the wedding as to the number of years or even months it would last. I've seen wonderful unions that ended with the untimely death of the partner. I like the stories of "We knew we were right, right from the start" and they were right. Yet this "right for each other" never came my way. And if it did, I apparently didn't notice.
But contrary to what married folks want to believe, lack of children or husband has many rewards for an adventurous woman. Freedom is not just another word for nothing left to lose. I have had the enormous great fortune to have been able to pursue everything I've ever wanted to do and become the most full version of myself, something I hear gets lost for many women in the middle of endless husband and child demands. I do know that a family can have its rewards: Who can deny the benefits of protection, affection, support? But so many are a hotbed of tangled resentments, unspoken fears and complicated intrigues one can't deny that single isn't better or worse than being married: It's just different. Actually for some of us it seems to work exceedingly well. The secret is out.
This is just a blog from one woman,prolifers have been torn apart on this thread for putting links to blogs.
What makes you so special to think you can do this?

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