There is Everything Wrong with Abortion

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#228563 Apr 5, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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...lol. I don't CARE what you claimed she said, you claimed she didn't say those things and she absolutely did. Your reading comprehension and logic are miserable. I hope you don't have a college degree because that was some serious money wasted. You are so busy putting your nose in people's uteri that you don't even remember what you said.
You've been proven wrong and a liar so many times on here, you should be embarrassed.
As I've previously stated, and just established as fact, I KNOW you don't care. You aren't interested in the truth.

You're a proven liar and dishonest presenter of information.

That's a proven fact.

Since: Apr 12

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#228564 Apr 5, 2013
mamma-san wrote:
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There is no definitive authority that states when life begins.
A fact is that which can be proven. You have yet to prove ANYTHING other than that you are an idiot.
Again, you prove my point for me.

Arguing with the stupid is futile, but amusing.

Since: Apr 12

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#228565 Apr 5, 2013
mamma-san wrote:
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Please provide the name of the publication. I follow this subject and did not see anything like this. Was it, by any slim chance, a Pro-Life publication that made the claim?
I posted a link to the video on the previous page.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#228566 Apr 5, 2013
I'm going to break this down for you because, well, you're an idiot and you need to be spoon-fed.

Post #228463 Grunt: Good thing for them you can't kill them once they're out of the womb. Planned parenthood wants to change that, too.

NOTE: You said PP wants to kill them once they're out of the womb.

Post #228497 MPNF: Again, another statement. No proof. Please provide the information that Planned Parenthood specifically said they want to kill children after they're out of the womb. We'll wait.

NOTE: I asked you to provide a specific statement where PP said they wanted to "kill them once they're out of the womb."

Post #228504 Grunt: I need to provide proof of public statements by planned parenthood's counsel? Do you even follow the news? No wonder you're wrong all the time. You're horribly uninformed.
This was headline news last week.

NOTE: Deflection.

Post #228515 MPNF: I know exactly what was said and what wasn't said. I know she said she couldn't answer the question and she didn't have that information. That hardly speaks to "We're PP and we want to kill born babies!" I didn't hear that, did you? If so, I must've missed that one. So by all means, enlighten me to where they specifically said they would kill born babies.

NOTE: I mentioned that she said she couldn't answer the question and she didn't have that information. I also pointed out that she did not say "We're PP and we want to kill born babies," like you said they did.

Post # 228525 Grunt: Again, lies. You'e embarrassingly dishonest.
She said she didn't have the information as to what currently happens.
When asked what should happen, she specifically said that decision should be left up to the family and doctors. She's specifically opposing a doctor to be obligated to transport a baby born alive, in a botched abortion, to the hospital for care.

What more proof do you want? Watch it yourself. It's disgusting.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/video-pla ...

NOTE: You gave some of the quotes she made (which none of them said "We want to kill born babies" and accused me of lying about what else she said.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#228567 Apr 5, 2013
Post #228531 MPNF: Not a lie, just just picked and chose what parts you wanted to include:

"Another legislator pressed Snow on the issue, asking her to explain Planned Parenthood's policy when such a scenario occurs, to which the abortion lobbyist replied,“I do not have that information.” Another legislator asked her if a baby born under such traumatic circumstances wouldn't automatically join his mother as a patient under the care of the erstwhile abortion doctor.“That's a very good question,” Snow blankly demurred.“I really don't know how to answer that.”

http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/faith-a ...

You're the dishonest one here. Calling me a liar when she specifically DID say those things. And that link up there, I even took that from a pro-life website, so suck it. You lost.

NOTE: I provided a direct quote from the meeting and confirmed that she did say what I said she did. The exact thing you called me a liar for. But yet, there are her words.

Post #228544 Grunt: I'm absolutely not. I didn't search for a misquote to "kinda" support my position. I posted you a link to the video of her. You either didn't watch that video or you're a liar. There is NO third option. The video I liked showed her saying EXACTLY what I claimed she did.

This proves you're a dishonest fraud.

NOTE: I never accused you of searching for a misquote. I accused you of saying that woman never said that she couldn't answer that question and that she didn't have that information (this is where your reading comprehension and logic sucks). There is a third option, which is she did indeed say what I said she did. I was not dishonest because I provided a direct quote.

Post #228552 Grunt: Again, you're a liar. Neither of those were answers to what I claimed she said.

I never claimed the answers she gave had anything to do with what you claimed. I said those were statements she gave. You denied that. And after all of this, you still haven't shown where she said "we want to kill born babies."

You're so sadly dense. I hope you're on welfare or something because it would amaze me that you can take care of yourself.

“Ignorance won't topple science”

Since: Jan 11

Terra, Sol

#228568 Apr 5, 2013
Man, it's hard finding anything worth responding to. Looks like all of the PLAs have just resorted to ad hominems. I don't think I've seen one post of theirs that hasn't been about another poster...

Well, by the rules of proper debate, they forfeit their point. Each did that when they started the A-H attacks, but this just reinforces it.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#228569 Apr 5, 2013
Man of Science wrote:
<quoted text>Don't forget about how she abandoned her other daughter in a hospital and moved several states away "because Florida's better for her skin" (or something along those lines, she said) without visiting because she couldn't be bothered to check up on her.
I think that's Lilac Lady. She's off publishing novels...lol

“Becoming a better me!”

Since: Jul 09

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#228570 Apr 5, 2013
Grunt56 wrote:
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Again, you prove my point for me.
Arguing with the stupid is futile, but amusing.
Typical. You are attacking instead of intelligently proving your point.

Show me a definitive source that says when life begins, and I'll agree with you. You've repeatedly said I killed my child, but you haven't proven there WAS a child (life) to kill.

Prove your point, or go crawl back under your bridge.

Since: Apr 12

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#228571 Apr 5, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
I'm going to break this down for you because, well, you're an idiot and you need to be spoon-fed.
Post #228463 Grunt: Good thing for them you can't kill them once they're out of the womb. Planned parenthood wants to change that, too.
NOTE: You said PP wants to kill them once they're out of the womb.
Post #228497 MPNF: Again, another statement. No proof. Please provide the information that Planned Parenthood specifically said they want to kill children after they're out of the womb. We'll wait.
NOTE: I asked you to provide a specific statement where PP said they wanted to "kill them once they're out of the womb."
Post #228504 Grunt: I need to provide proof of public statements by planned parenthood's counsel? Do you even follow the news? No wonder you're wrong all the time. You're horribly uninformed.
This was headline news last week.
NOTE: Deflection.
Post #228515 MPNF: I know exactly what was said and what wasn't said. I know she said she couldn't answer the question and she didn't have that information. That hardly speaks to "We're PP and we want to kill born babies!" I didn't hear that, did you? If so, I must've missed that one. So by all means, enlighten me to where they specifically said they would kill born babies.
NOTE: I mentioned that she said she couldn't answer the question and she didn't have that information. I also pointed out that she did not say "We're PP and we want to kill born babies," like you said they did.
Post # 228525 Grunt: Again, lies. You'e embarrassingly dishonest.
She said she didn't have the information as to what currently happens.
When asked what should happen, she specifically said that decision should be left up to the family and doctors. She's specifically opposing a doctor to be obligated to transport a baby born alive, in a botched abortion, to the hospital for care.
What more proof do you want? Watch it yourself. It's disgusting.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/video-pla ...
NOTE: You gave some of the quotes she made (which none of them said "We want to kill born babies" and accused me of lying about what else she said.
Thank you for proving my point, even though you aren't bright enough to realize you did it.

“Becoming a better me!”

Since: Jul 09

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#228572 Apr 5, 2013
Grunt56 wrote:
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I posted a link to the video on the previous page.
k

A video? So it's not a legitimate source.

Thank you.

“Ignorance won't topple science”

Since: Jan 11

Terra, Sol

#228573 Apr 5, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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I think that's Lilac Lady. She's off publishing novels...lol
Was it? My mistake, then. It's been so long since I've been here that I lost track of who's who...

Apologies, I retract post #228559. I was mistaken, carry on.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#228574 Apr 5, 2013
Grunt56 wrote:
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As I've previously stated, and just established as fact, I KNOW you don't care. You aren't interested in the truth.
You're a proven liar and dishonest presenter of information.
That's a proven fact.
The only time someone claims that someone else is a "dishonest presenter of information" is when they know they've been caught with their pants down. And you clearly have.

So, back to the subject at hand:

Your pregnant wife has a life-threatening disease that will kill her unless she has an abortion. What do you recommend she does? Does she die for your convictions or does she have an abortion and save her own life?

For all the names you call everyone, the most embarrassing one is aimed toward you. Not one person on here has backed down when they've been forced into a corner. Not LIP with her daughter who died, not MS with her abortion. So you're the only one who refuses to answer a question that in all honesty, isn't personal because presumably, you've never dealt with it. You're a scared loser who is too cowardly to answer a simple question. And you know it. And better yet, we all know it too. You can ignore this post. You can ignore other posts where others point out that you haven't answered the question, but it's still there. The pink elephant in the room which is we ALL know you're a hypocrite for condemning a woman for having an abortion in order to save her life.

Since: Nov 12

Temple Hills, MD

#228576 Apr 5, 2013
Grunt56 wrote:
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Less than 1% of abortions are the result of rape.
my point is it can happen, and Until you show me where that percentage came from your answer is wrong

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#228577 Apr 5, 2013
Grunt56 wrote:
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Thank you for proving my point, even though you aren't bright enough to realize you did it.
Saying your point was proven and it actually having been proven are not the same.

You're an idiot troll who can't read. When you find a statement issued by PP that says "we want to kill born babies" just like you said they do, then by all means, I'll concede the point. But you haven't and you won't and you can't. You're slipping here, it's pretty funny to watch you scramble.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#228578 Apr 5, 2013
Man of Science wrote:
<quoted text>Was it? My mistake, then. It's been so long since I've been here that I lost track of who's who...
Apologies, I retract post #228559. I was mistaken, carry on.
Yeah, LL is the insane one who put her daughter "with some people she trusts" and hasn't visited her in 30 years because it's "too hard for her" but she KNOWS she's being taken care of well. Eyeroll.

Since: Apr 12

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#228579 Apr 5, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
I'm going to break this down for you because, well, you're an idiot and you need to be spoon-fed.
Post #228463 Grunt: Good thing for them you can't kill them once they're out of the womb. Planned parenthood wants to change that, too.
NOTE: You said PP wants to kill them once they're out of the womb.
Post #228497 MPNF: Again, another statement. No proof. Please provide the information that Planned Parenthood specifically said they want to kill children after they're out of the womb. We'll wait.
NOTE: I asked you to provide a specific statement where PP said they wanted to "kill them once they're out of the womb."
Post #228504 Grunt: I need to provide proof of public statements by planned parenthood's counsel? Do you even follow the news? No wonder you're wrong all the time. You're horribly uninformed.
This was headline news last week.
NOTE: Deflection.
Post #228515 MPNF: I know exactly what was said and what wasn't said. I know she said she couldn't answer the question and she didn't have that information. That hardly speaks to "We're PP and we want to kill born babies!" I didn't hear that, did you? If so, I must've missed that one. So by all means, enlighten me to where they specifically said they would kill born babies.
NOTE: I mentioned that she said she couldn't answer the question and she didn't have that information. I also pointed out that she did not say "We're PP and we want to kill born babies," like you said they did.
Post # 228525 Grunt: Again, lies. You'e embarrassingly dishonest.
She said she didn't have the information as to what currently happens.
When asked what should happen, she specifically said that decision should be left up to the family and doctors. She's specifically opposing a doctor to be obligated to transport a baby born alive, in a botched abortion, to the hospital for care.
What more proof do you want? Watch it yourself. It's disgusting.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/video-pla ...
NOTE: You gave some of the quotes she made (which none of them said "We want to kill born babies" and accused me of lying about what else she said.
Thanks for proving my point. Sadly, you aren't bright enough to realize you did.

“Becoming a better me!”

Since: Jul 09

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#228580 Apr 5, 2013
Grunt56 wrote:
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Thank you for proving my point, even though you aren't bright enough to realize you did it.
In your link, did you notice the word "blogs?"

A blog is a web log...OPINION. It is NOT a verifiable fact of anything but the writer's opinion.

You are embarrassing all Pro-Lifers with your idiocy. You are the best thing that's happened to Pro-Choice in long while.

Since: Apr 12

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#228581 Apr 5, 2013
mamma-san wrote:
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A video? So it's not a legitimate source.
Thank you.
Really? You don't accept a video of counsel for Planned Parenthood uttering those words?

Seriously. You're retarded. Not kinda stupid. Child killing with no remorse retarded.

"Oh, you have a video of them saying it. I don't accept that as proof"

Moron.

Since: Apr 12

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#228582 Apr 5, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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The only time someone claims that someone else is a "dishonest presenter of information" is when they know they've been caught with their pants down. And you clearly have.
So, back to the subject at hand:
Your pregnant wife has a life-threatening disease that will kill her unless she has an abortion. What do you recommend she does? Does she die for your convictions or does she have an abortion and save her own life?
For all the names you call everyone, the most embarrassing one is aimed toward you. Not one person on here has backed down when they've been forced into a corner. Not LIP with her daughter who died, not MS with her abortion. So you're the only one who refuses to answer a question that in all honesty, isn't personal because presumably, you've never dealt with it. You're a scared loser who is too cowardly to answer a simple question. And you know it. And better yet, we all know it too. You can ignore this post. You can ignore other posts where others point out that you haven't answered the question, but it's still there. The pink elephant in the room which is we ALL know you're a hypocrite for condemning a woman for having an abortion in order to save her life.
No, I call you a liar when you lie.

I'm not shocked you fail to understand that concept.

Since: Apr 12

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#228583 Apr 5, 2013
zakinah wrote:
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my point is it can happen, and Until you show me where that percentage came from your answer is wrong
Seriously. Google is your friend.

You're a moron.

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