There is Everything Wrong with Abortion
The Advocate

Mexico, Mexico

#227630 Mar 13, 2013
MoonLitSnow wrote:
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I'd really a women get an abortion, then abuse and neglect a child. Our world is fulled with people who's mother's didn't want them. And not all but A good amount of unwanted children grow up to be maladjusted adults who can't even function in society. Have you seen a child with an attachment disorder that, because their mothers ignored them from infancy...it's sad..abortion is sad too, not as sad as child that grows up feeling unloved...
Same thing goes with gay adoptions...children being denied to people who are perfectly capable of being good parents yet are denied because they're gay, and the kids end up bearing that load by getting sent to some shitfaced (but straight!) parents:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/02/24/oklahoma....

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

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#227631 Mar 13, 2013
The Advocate wrote:
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Same thing goes with gay adoptions...children being denied to people who are perfectly capable of being good parents yet are denied because they're gay, and the kids end up bearing that load by getting sent to some shitfaced (but straight!) parents:
http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/02/24/oklahoma....
Oh honey - now you're talking reality. The so-called 'pro-life' folks can't recognize that shyte. Doesn't fit the 'but this is how it outta be' mold, you know....
The Advocate

Mexico, Mexico

#227632 Mar 13, 2013
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>Oh honey - now you're talking reality. The so-called 'pro-life' folks can't recognize that shyte. Doesn't fit the 'but this is how it outta be' mold, you know....
WHEN have those putzes ever been right on issues of family and sexuality? First they ban comprehensive sex ed, then they ban abortion, then they ban gay adoptions. But it's PERFECTLY fine to have an abusive family as long as it's Christian and straight.

Give us a break, people!

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

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#227633 Mar 13, 2013
Life is Precious wrote:
<quoted text>Why would he have a problem with him?
Here's what Prima Nocta means, dear:

"When any common girl inhabiting their lands is married, our Nobles shall have sexual rights to her on the night of her wedding."

The point, of course, is for the first child of the marriage to be Lawest's, rather than your husband's.

One would hope your fiancee' would have a problem with this...but I guess the man you picked, given your propensity for submission, will be fine with it.
The Advocate

Mexico, Mexico

#227634 Mar 13, 2013
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>Here's what Prima Nocta means, dear:
"When any common girl inhabiting their lands is married, our Nobles shall have sexual rights to her on the night of her wedding."
The point, of course, is for the first child of the marriage to be Lawest's, rather than your husband's.
One would hope your fiancee' would have a problem with this...but I guess the man you picked, given your propensity for submission, will be fine with it.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/a86240b247fc8a3579...

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

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#227636 Mar 13, 2013
Liam R wrote:
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Hey, that reminds me. If anyone here has a daughter for sale, I could use a good housekeeper. Sewing would be optional, but a plus. I can cook, but I need a good baker.
(18+ only, please.)
My son is an excellent baker, and knows what clean means. Fortunately, however, he is his own man, and you'd have to work the employment and financial details out with him. I'll give him a link to your post, and we'll see how it goes from there.

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“Becoming a better me!”

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#227637 Mar 14, 2013
NWmoon wrote:
Oh, I read more of the story. It was her boyfriend who got her pregnant, the rape was STATUTORY, not a forcible stranger rape. They'd been dating for over two years.
The father's family wanted to keep the baby, but had no rights to stop the adoption, although they tried.
Nope, she's getting no sympathy from me over ONE attempt at contact that she rejected, and not pursued by the adoptee further.
The headline and all makes it seem as if she was harassed by the daughter. She wasn't.
I apologize to everyone for posting that story. I didn't follow through and research it more carefully. Moon, thanks for being far more thorough that I was.

“Becoming a better me!”

Since: Jul 09

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#227638 Mar 14, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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Isn't it amazing when someone is so proud of his/her ignorance? This is a commonly known fact that many Christians choose to ignore and refuse to look into for themselves because, like every other inconsistency in the bible, it would shed doubt on their beliefs.
Lawest shows his ability for reading comprehension with many of our posts on here. Of course he's not comprehending what he's reading, if he actually reads the bible. Instead, he parrots what other people say, or gets it from the back of his Captain Marvel comic books.

His cherry picking what "godly rules" he will and won't follow does amuse me greatly though.

He lives by Paul's "men shouldn't have long hair" but ignores Jesus's command to "do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

Paul actually says in one of his books that women shouldn't wear jewelry. I don't hear Lawest having a snit fit because women wear earrings or rings.

And he never DID answer how long "long hair" is. And his assertion that Jesus didn't have long hair still cracks me up.

We MUST band together and get him a comic book of the bible. Perhaps then he'll read it better.

Since: Sep 07

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#227639 Mar 14, 2013
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>Here's what Prima Nocta means, dear:
"When any common girl inhabiting their lands is married, our Nobles shall have sexual rights to her on the night of her wedding."
The point, of course, is for the first child of the marriage to be Lawest's, rather than your husband's.
One would hope your fiancee' would have a problem with this...but I guess the man you picked, given your propensity for submission, will be fine with it.
My fiance is totally against abortion, by the way you are crazy. Just saying.
Have a wonderful day.

Since: Sep 07

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#227640 Mar 14, 2013
mamma-san wrote:
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Lawest shows his ability for reading comprehension with many of our posts on here. Of course he's not comprehending what he's reading, if he actually reads the bible. Instead, he parrots what other people say, or gets it from the back of his Captain Marvel comic books.
His cherry picking what "godly rules" he will and won't follow does amuse me greatly though.
He lives by Paul's "men shouldn't have long hair" but ignores Jesus's command to "do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
Paul actually says in one of his books that women shouldn't wear jewelry. I don't hear Lawest having a snit fit because women wear earrings or rings.
And he never DID answer how long "long hair" is. And his assertion that Jesus didn't have long hair still cracks me up.
We MUST band together and get him a comic book of the bible. Perhaps then he'll read it better.
I am happy you are amused,it speaks volumes on who and what you are.Gee didn't you say once you were a Christian?(Laughable). You don't know the first thing about Christianity. You are the most disrespectable person on this thread. Why don't you tell the real reason you left the church? Be truthful for once in your life. Hypocrite!

Since: Sep 07

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#227641 Mar 14, 2013
mamma-san wrote:
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I apologize to everyone for posting that story. I didn't follow through and research it more carefully. Moon, thanks for being far more thorough that I was.
Typical!You are so busy trying to justify ending the life of your unborn child,you just put anything on this thread.
Ocean56

AOL

#227642 Mar 14, 2013
Life is Precious wrote:
I am happy you are amused,it speaks volumes on who and what you are.Gee didn't you say once you were a Christian?(Laughable). You don't know the first thing about Christianity. You are the most disrespectable person on this thread. Why don't you tell the real reason you left the church? Be truthful for once in your life. Hypocrite!
I'm curious; what gives you the idea that you're "owed an explanation" for why anyone chooses to leave a religion or church? The fact is, no one has to tell YOU (or anyone else, for that matter) anything. Certain decisions are personal, which means they're none of YOUR bleeping business. Get over it.

If you want to call me "disrespectful" for saying this, knock yourself out. I have NO problem saying I have no respect for militant anti-choicers who are trying to remove women's reproductive rights.
Ocean56

AOL

#227643 Mar 14, 2013
MoonLitSnow wrote:
I'd really a women get an abortion, then abuse and neglect a child. Our world is fulled with people who's mother's didn't want them. And not all but A good amount of unwanted children grow up to be maladjusted adults who can't even function in society. Have you seen a child with an attachment disorder that, because their mothers ignored them from infancy...it's sad..abortion is sad too, not as sad as child that grows up feeling unloved...
Agreed. A woman can't neglect or abuse what she doesn't have. Not all women want children, and not all children get adopted. Abortion must remain what it is; a woman's PERSONAL medical decision, and an option that all women in the U.S. have access to. Provided they live in a state where they can get access to it, of course.

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#227644 Mar 14, 2013
Life is Precious wrote:
<quoted text>I am happy you are amused,it speaks volumes on who and what you are.Gee didn't you say once you were a Christian?(Laughable). You don't know the first thing about Christianity. You are the most disrespectable person on this thread. Why don't you tell the real reason you left the church? Be truthful for once in your life. Hypocrite!
It's "disrespectful" you cretin.

As for the rest of it...I've said why, many times. go look it up.

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#227645 Mar 14, 2013
Life is Precious wrote:
<quoted text>Typical!You are so busy trying to justify ending the life of your unborn child,you just put anything on this thread.
ROFL.

You are really grasping at straws LIPpy.

Go puke your breakfast up.

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

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#227646 Mar 14, 2013
Life is Precious wrote:
<quoted text>My fiance is totally against abortion, by the way you are crazy. Just saying.
Have a wonderful day.
Well that's not too surprising, since he'll never need one.

You do the same, honey.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Westerville, OH

#227647 Mar 14, 2013
Life is Precious wrote:
<quoted text>I am happy you are amused,it speaks volumes on who and what you are.Gee didn't you say once you were a Christian?(Laughable). You don't know the first thing about Christianity. You are the most disrespectable person on this thread. Why don't you tell the real reason you left the church? Be truthful for once in your life. Hypocrite!
Hypocrite. Yet you constantly disobey the basic rules of your religion. Pot meet kettle.

“Becoming a better me!”

Since: Jul 09

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#227648 Mar 14, 2013
Life is Precious wrote:
<quoted text>Typical!You are so busy trying to justify ending the life of your unborn child,you just put anything on this thread.
Side note: I don't justify my abortion to anyone but my conscience. Y

Your fascination with the events of MY body and MY uterus 27 YEARS ago show just exactly how dull and empty your life is.

Now you'll try some incomprehensible phrases telling us your life is not dull nor empty.

If that is true, then why do you keep harping on decisions I made for my life 27 years ago?

STOP humping my leg like the bitch in heat you are.
LightForce

Rockford, MI

#227649 Mar 14, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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When I make a choice concerning what is happening in my body, I'm the only one whose business it is. That will forever be the truth. You can TRY to make it your business, but it never has been, is not now and never will be any of your business.
(PART 1 of 2)

How do you even know that you are really a person – do you check your drivers liscense? Making a choice based on opinions is like making a choice based on what shadows you see on the wall, but in the end, what you don't know really CAN hurt you sometimes. It might seem like a good idea to pee in the pool until you find out that everybody else is doing it too. Until you see all of the evidence you can't always come to the right conclusion. By the way, I'm personally opposed to using nuclear weapons, but if you want to use them in your own home it's none of my business.

Did the Thirteenth Amendment make a slave a “person”, with the same rights as other people? Did the defeat of the Nazi's suddenly make Jews and others that were deemed a lower class of people,“real” people? Just what does make a person a “person” considered to have the same inherent rights of all other people? In a just society we always consider the rights of others when we consider our own rights, so why are some people often excluded in that plan? We know that when we protect the rights of others, we are ultimately protecting our own rights, but does that mean we have to believe that there must be some personal benefit to us? If you look back in history at those who's rights are violated, it seems that there is always a certain defining physical attribute that differentiates the one's who's rights are being violated from the violator of those rights. Did they take a poll one day to see who's rights they would violate, or was it a slower process that occurred little by little over a long period of time? Why did so many people accept slavery in this country, and why did so many people accept the persecution of Jews? German historian Hans Buchheim wrote in his 1965 essay “Command and Compliance” that there was no coercion to murder Jews and others, and all who committed such actions did so out of free will, or their own CHOICE. Why do we today so easily accept the killing of innocent unborn children?
LightForce

Rockford, MI

#227650 Mar 14, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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When I make a choice concerning what is happening in my body, I'm the only one whose business it is. That will forever be the truth. You can TRY to make it your business, but it never has been, is
not now and never will be any of your business.
(PART 2 of 2)

The choices that we make can be based on opinion, or preference, but in a just world we must base our choices on moral and ethical foundations to ensure the inherent rights of everybody. The people who justified slavery out of their own “opinion” or “preference” were those who in their minds had no chance of ever becoming a slave themselves. The people who justified the persecution of Jews were not Jews themselves and reasoned in their own minds that they were not in danger of ever being persecuted or killed themselves. The one's who today justify the killing of innocent unborn children, are in fact already born, so they feel that they are not in any danger themselves. Our laws are often metered out, not on the basis of moral equality but only on the basis of how likely we are to be victims ourselves. So does one person deserve the inherent right to life, while another does not because of what opinions we might have? We also need to consider what class of citizen the next victims might be if we continue to simply base our choices on personal, or collective opinions, or preferences. When we set a precedence that is contradictory to moral or ethical standards, we tend to see a slow, steady decline in those standards. Eugenist Allen Roper, in a book published in 1913 called Ancient Eugenics wrote,“compulsion, or guidance, however veiled, is foredoomed to failure in the case of an institution which can only rest on inclination or an innate sense of duty. Moreover,“custom is lord of all,” and custom can only be modified gradually and in the course of centuries”“Modern Eugenists”, he goes on to say,“have recognized that, if there is to be Eugenics by Act of Parliament, the Eugenic ideal must first be absorbed into the conscience of the nation.” It's no coincidence that pro-abortionists rationalize abortion by calling it “pro-choice”. Everybody is for free choice, but that term ignores the fact that you are unjustly using that choice to force injury onto an innocent unborn child. Pro-abortioninsts use that deceptive term to achieve their goals of making abortion not only acceptable, but to make it a custom. We need to base our decisions on ALL of the evidence and not just shadows that we see on the wall.

You are right, we can never change the hearts of men by FORCING morality on them, it has to be by their own free will, because only then will real, lasting equal justice ever occur.

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